CBD Breeding Experiment: Tesla-CBDream- Blueberry

Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by BCBDz, Apr 17, 2018.

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    Sour Wreck

    Sour Wreck Well-Known Member

    same, i have some cherry wine CBD in veg right now. 16:0
     
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    TerpBot

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    The seeds I recently acquired are from a strain called Boax - the breeder claimed it's a 30:1 ratio with between 20-30% cannabinoid yields, so we'll see. So far, 8 of 14 have sprouted and are growing vigorously. I hope to get some males! What does your Otto #1 look like? How tall did it get indoors? What was the yield?

     
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    BCBDz

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    I don't know how to do the quote thing, my apologies.

    Terpbot, Yes I think it is necessary to rinse off. Whats the old saying? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". personally I took all the precautions I could muster up. I used a little kiddie pool to rinse off the girls, then rinsed myself off, I did this inside a seacan which is pretty well air tight, once outside, I rinsed her again with the garden hose and nozzle, then take off the hasmat ( I have a pile of them for some reason) then return to grow room and grab the next one. Once I finished the first branch/Tesla male A on all ladies, I repeated the whole process with Tesla Male B on an opposite side branch. Of course you could just save the headache and just seed the whole crop with one Male, but you won't have any useful info about the pheno's unless you are using clones. Also, yes I successfully pollinated isolated flowers this way....could be beginners luck though lol. I'll attach a pic.

    Old Med, good idea on the cuttings! I may have to try that the next go round once I find a suitable mother....hopefully sooner than later. Personally I prefer to make tinctures, it's easy to dose and discreet. Sorry to hear about your stray pollen.
     

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    BCBDz

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    On another note, I have determined that the Tesla hermie I found was not caused by a light leak, just bad genetics. I checked it out and first light was only 1.5 hours before lights on, which shouldn't have caused any real stress on the plants. It would have been more like the sun coming up in the morning and given that it was discovered on day 8 from flip,along with the showing of the rest of the preflowers, it would seem to be a strain issue, not a stress issue.

    Since then I have found two more Tesla fems with bananas that were disposed of bringing my total count to 9/10 seeds sprouted 4/9 males 3/5 females went hermie, which is REALLY disappointing but......of the two remaining Tesla females, one is a beautiful specimen on all fronts, smell, growth, bud development ect...the other is a stretchy ugly thing that looks very much like the 3 that went hermie and also Tesla male A. Tesla male B on the other hand looked very much like the prized Tesla fem I have so I will continue with the plan and cross my fingers and everything else I can cross and just hope that Tesla male B does not have the hermie trait. Mama didn't raise no quitter.

    It's a funny thing because I've avoided Feminized seeds for...well.... forever up until I started running the CB Dream a few grows ago. I've always associated them with hermies so I've avoided them like the plague. The CB Dream has been nothing but stable and uniform with no hermies yet this damn Tesla gave me 3/5 hermies outta regular seeds. Go figure....
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    The OTTO are scrawny, wispy things that don't yield worth a damn. I only got the one so have no possible phenos to compare it to. I'm mainly just growing it to breed with regular plants to get some CBD genes into them.

    I've just made some of it into cocobudder and it seems to work on my arthritis and has no real buzz to it but neither does the cross of it and the first Cannatonic one I've made into cocobudder. Still have the 2nd cross to make into budder yet and it was the best yielder so hoping it's even better medicine for me.

    In a couple weeks I'll be able to harvest some of the plants flowering now and make some cocobudder from them. They're regular plants with fairly high THC and no CBD. AK47, BlueBerry, Critical Mass and OG#18. Going to make it fresh off the plants with no drying or curing. I should have done that with the CBD ones but processed it the usual way then made the budder from the dried pot.

    Then I can experiment with mixing the various types to find blends that really do the trick for me. I'll keep track of doses and how much of each I take and when I find something that works well I can mix it together for consistancy and easy of dosing. Low THC stuff for daytime, Racy sativa and CBD blends for getting a nice buzz while medicating and some sleepy blend for night use. Yum-yum. :)

    :peace:
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    If you just hit reply at the bottom of a post you quote the whole thing.

    Or like I did to just get that line of yours as a quote you highlight the text you'd like to quote and a Reply button pops up in a little balloon and you hit that.

    Easy-peasy. :)

    :peace:
     
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    BCBDz

    BCBDz Member

    Roger that OldMed, Thanks
     
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    BCBDz

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    well 35 days from flip, which is about 1/2 way give or take. Pretty much on autopilot now, just water every 3 days and check for hermies...that's it. Had a bit of a phosphorus issue so I hit em with the bat guano, that should fix that but we'll see....pics are Tesla and Blueberry
     

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    BCBDz

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    Also since it's hard to tell from the pics, it may be worth noting the Tesla main cola measures in at 1 5/16" diameter x 3 1/8" long, fairly dense. The blueberry is 1 5/8" diameter x 4 5/16" long, SUPER dense.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    They look like better yielders than any of my 3 CBD plants are.

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    BCBDz

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    That's probably the only reason I'm still going with the Tesla. I won't really know if it was worthwhile until I grow the next generation. I"d say it's more likely that I run into more hermies down the line and have to start over but there's still that outside chance I don't.
     
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    BCBDz

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    well not a whole lot to report. Day 42 from flip. Plants seem to be fine after hitting them with the bat guano, all is well. Tesla main cola now measuring 1 5/8" diameter (^5/16") x 3 5/16" long (^3/16"). The Blueberry measures in at 1 3/4" diameter (^1/8") x 4 11/16" long (^3/8"). The smell is getting pretty strong now. Tell you what, I am getting excited about this blueberry cross, it's just got such chunky buds all over it, it will be interesting to see if that trait carries over
     

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    BCBDz

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    49 days from flip. No pic today as the plants were inside due to rain. Tesla main measuring in at 1 11/16" diameter (^1/16") x 3 1/2" long (^ 3/16"). Ol Faithful Blueberry measuring in at 1 15/16" diameter (^3/16") x 5 1/16" long (^3/8"). The Blueberry continues to impress, even the very bottom branches have a big ol golfball sized bud on each side which I usually only get little tiny popcorn buds off of them.

    Reading back, something I forgot to mention was that of the 5 blueberry seeds my buddy had, the 3 he popped where all males, considering i ended up with the two females, I did the right thing and gave him the whirlybird with the condition that he gives me the main cola lol. It's never happened to me but that's gotta suck popping all 3 males like that.

    Anyhow, I've been reading about this collidal silver and it seems like it could be a useful tool. If any of you have used it, let me know how you made out
     
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    BCBDz

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    Day 56 from flip. Tesla main measuring in at 1 13/16" diameter (^1/8") x 3 5/8" long (1/8"). Blueberry measuring in at 2 1/8" diameter (^ 3/16") x 5 1/16" long (^0"). It's obvious the Blueberry is starting to ripen now. Started flushing at day 54. Had a couple seeds fall off the plant on day 53.

    Since it's getting close to harvest I can't help but wonder what the next plan is. I am for sure starting with the BXT (Blueberry x Tesla). I'm just not sure if I should go BXT x BXT, BXT x Tesla, or self pollinate a BXT. If anyone had any input, let's hear it.

    I have to give a huge shout out to James Bean Company and Alphakronik Genes. I sent JBC an email with a few pics after finding the hermies cause I figured someone should probably document that and he then sent an email to AKG on my behalf and then....poof, AKG sends me out 4 small seed packs of "Enigma", "Nevada Privada", and two of particular interest to me are "Cosmos" (Franks Gift x Dawgfather) and "Love" (Harlistu x Kimbo Kush). I see a plot twist in my experiment down the line somewhere. On that note, I guess it pays to document your work and to deal with companies that stand behind their product. I'm pretty happy about it
     

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    BCBDz

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    Things are getting pretty milky. The Tesla's are turning purple at the leaves on the bud sites yet the Blueberry isn't???? It still smells like sweet blueberry, and the buds have a faint blue tint, but they aren't purple, thanks Crop King! Anyhow, my main Tesla has a hint of a sweet berry smell but the bulk of the smell is something else, which I can't for the life of me figure out what scent it is, I'm stumped.

    I plucked a couple seeds off and left them in water overnight and they germed in 24 hours, surprised it actually worked as I read that they gotta dry out first.
     

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    BCBDz

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    Alright, a note from day 63 I missed. The Tesla main didn't get any larger after day 56 from flip. The blueberry grew another 1/8" in diameter but no vertical growth.

    Seeded buds were cut off on day 42 from pollination/ 63 from flip/ 91 from seed. I was deceived by my early test of the two fresh seeds.....I attempted to germ 15 of the fresh BXT seeds and only 1 germinated after over 48 hours. At the same time I germed the 3 AKG "Love" beans and they went 3 for 3....so that's good. I plopped 5 more BXT seeds in to a cup of water after a few days dry time and see if my luck changes.

    All buds were harvested, trimmed and hung on day 68 from flip/ 96 from seed.The Blueberry smells soooooooooo F'ing good! The mysterious smell from the Tesla I couldn't figure out is leaning towards a sour berry/lime smell.....not really sure how I feel about that yet.

    The plan for phase 2 is to continue on with the Blueberry #1 x Tesla #3. I'll save the Tesla backcrosses, CB Dream x Tesla #1 and #3, and the Blueberry x Tesla # 1 for a later date. I plan to do an 8 week veg to really see the plants structure, cut some clones around week 6 for the next cross.and possibly cross this "love" strain to the BXT if something interesting pops up. I suppose the new goal would be a high CBD with big fat buds and a blueberry smell. It'll be pure luck if I can find all 3.
     
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    BCBDz

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    Well.......the 5 seeds i tried to germ after a few days dry time did absolutely squat! It was pure fluke that the first 2 seeds I picked off and germinated were actually successful Out of the 20 after that...only 1 germinated. I will wait until the 2 week mark and try again
     
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    BCBDz

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    ok........this damn website keeps signing me out when i try and post then deletes what I wrote. Germ rate up to 50% after two weeks and germination is much quicker, up from 40% after 1 week which took 5 days for the beans to crack open.

    Had the seedlings outside for a few days but we got a heat wave and they got pretty cooked, hopefully they don't take too long to bounce back as they are back inside now. The bigger 4 at the top are the 3 AKG "Love" and one BXT all 2 weeks from sprout. The next 3 are BXT about 5 and 7 days old, and the remainder are BXT 2 days from sprout
     

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    raggyb

    raggyb Well-Known Member

    Is CB Dream the same as Blue Dream CBD? The latter is Blue Dream x California Orange. I just harvested one for about an ounce. Have you used the Tesla yet?
     
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    BCBDz

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    The CB Dream I have is a CropKing variety, listed parents are Blue Dream X Original Kush. Haven't used the Tesla yet but I'll smoke a bowl later tonight and get back to ya
     
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