Cannarado genetics

Davos Tyrell

Active Member
it wasn't all the tk crosses. I understand your angst. He answers me in one day by email, you should hollar at him. To my recollektion, he stated if you got the TK crosses at the Denver Expo dealio, they were ok, if by distributor, maybe not but I think he was replacing them. And the two mentioned were the east cakes and the dosido cross. Not sure who works generations of fems, usually its a cut reversed or stellar female, but im no breeder, I aspire to be a polyhybrid bottleneck closet grower chuckin so of a gun. Life's too short to of such stuff, imho. I'd hollar at him at his email tell him where ya got em and go from there. But yea of all the chems, the 91 is the most finicky to grow they claim.
Just trying to get a list of feminized strains that I could tell canna I heard good stable things about
 

Bodyne

Well-Known Member
Just trying to get a list of feminized strains that I could tell canna I heard good stable things about
grape pie and sundae driver are his, I believe. The grape pie is harder to get a hold of than a hair on a frog when it comes out, and sundae driver seems popular. Honestly, maing, I think this was the first time he had a problem with his gear. I could be wrong, but I don't remember hearing things prior to this last fem deal.
 

Davos Tyrell

Active Member
grape pie and sundae driver are his, I believe. The grape pie is harder to get a hold of than a hair on a frog when it comes out, and sundae driver seems popular. Honestly, maing, I think this was the first time he had a problem with his gear. I could be wrong, but I don't remember hearing things prior to this last fem deal.
Me either (hearing about problems with his fems) that’s why I don’t want to totally discredit his releases but you can understand my skepticism. I hope whatever he sends turns out to be fems
 

jayblaze710

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per his IG acct yesterday:
Who’s ready for some #SundaeDriver fems? Here’s what is currently in testing for release at emerald if all shakes out ok
Sundae Driver x
Banana OG
Blueberry
Sunset Sherbet
Ultra Sour
Birthday Cake
Chocolope
Chemdog D
SFV OG
Orange Cookies
White
TK91
Forum GSC
GG4
Rootbeer Float
OG LA Affie
TriFi
Sour Dubble
Dosidos
Cherry Pie
Gelato 33
GMO
Wedding Cake
Apple Juice
Butterscotch
Cherry Cookies/GrapePie
So...uh...anyone going to Emerald? I wish I could make the drive up, but can’t.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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Just threw my 2 east cake cuts in the flower tent. Just leaving in the 1 gallon pot so hopefully they don't go over board, lol. I still have a cut of each in case I like what I gets.

Both are female so I'm guessing they are WC x tk91 simply based on that one criteria, or is it criterion?, lol.

But seriously I'm guessing the male pollen incident wasn't a full on whole area engulfed by a huge cloud of male pollen but rather a small mishap? I mean I've seen a few different pics of east cake flower with no mention of males from the people who grew it, but I've also seen enough to know it did happen, though I'm guessing not enough regular seeds were made to ruin the chances of find a nice wedding cake x tk91 pheno in the 10+ pack you get.

Either way I'm looking forward to seeing what I get from these 2. They're small clones now so I'll wait on pics till they start flowering in a few weeks.
 

Lightgreen2k

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I had no idea about the lineage thank you for that info! And I’m not trying to make it seem like I’m saying cannarado doesn’t stabilize but I’ve never had a feminized pack of seeds which produced a single male plant, sometimes herms late into flower but never a male plant. I simply am stating my experience. I wish breeders were more like you, and gave more descriptions on their strains/ when a strain has a tendency to herm. Not everyone will know what you do, I’m just trying to educate myself, I appreciate your input. In your own growing experience; which of his feminized strains won’t have a tendency to throw out males or herms? I would like to suggest a few to cannarado as suggestions for what to send me. I don’t want to get regular seeds when I’m paying for fems. I didn’t see that coming from a mile away like you said because I have no previous knowledge of this happening. Just trying to learn
His cookie crips line and grape pie line, 20kjack line and a few more.
 

Stiickygreen

Well-Known Member
Davos.....

STS is Silver Thiosulfate....basically...a ratio of silver nitrate and sododium thiosulfate that is mixed together and sprayed on a FEMALE clone to make it a male. When said male is used to pollinate another clone of the same origin ...say a Bubba....then the cross of Bubba F turned male to the Bubba clone would yield an "S-1" (selfed) seed. This is not the same as a hermie. These are stable (if the clone used IS STABLE) seeds that will rep the original plant fairly well. Crossing the female-turned-male-clone to another strain gets you a "FEM' version of the cross. Say..Bubba(M) x Gorrila Glue (F)... then some clown names it something stupid..like "Prison Ape"...and off we go into sales land....

Rado and the other fem "breeders" do not truly "work" lines. They may hold a clone for awhile...or source clones that are well-known and have been around for awhikle...but chances are...they will hit the clones that are the FAD OF THE DAY because the newest/greatest always sells the best in this market. They aren't taking...say...TK91 anywherre or "working" that line because TK91 is a clone only...and with no male...the best you can do is reverse it and...basically...PRESERVE >that cultivar< of the strain. As has been said...about all you can do is buy fems from clone lines that have been ran for a bit and don't have tons of reports on instability.

ALL of the seeds I run now are fems or S-1's. I ran reg seeds for 3 decades...and keepers were rare. I also had "male luck". I could run a 10 pack and get 9 males and a mutant...time and time again.... and I got sick of the selection process and using my room to sex plants. All the Pucker crosses were fems...and I dropped 12 fems from 4 different sellers a few days ago for the next go

I've NEVER had a hermie on a female plant or an S-1/...whether I bought the seeds or made them myself..and I've ran fems for 15+ years now.....since the days of "Organkid" and his S-i bubba/Oger/Banana drop that got the whole "OG" train on the track. The GPS FAKE S-1 fiasco was my first rodeo in 30 years with seeds that weren't what the breeder claimed they'd be. I've ran LOTS of seeds that didn't produce the same killer phenos as the breeders PICTURES...but nothing that was..unknown/random/total crap/etc. like these S-1's were.

Cannarado's fems are as stable as any....and as others said...this is the FIRST time I hard of real troubles across a release. Here/there...yeah....it can happen.....but on and on complaints and replacing packs? I think this is his first rodeo with that shit....

so EASE UP a bit on Cannarado. He's a good cat and he's been at it longer than a lot of folks have had a garden....like many of us old fucks. He's riding the trend....and damn...he DOES have connections to be able to toss so many things our way. Take the good...leave the bad....as always.

Bottom line...it's a risky game on many fronts. If you can't afford to lose...don't play this game.
 
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NanoGadget

Well-Known Member
Davos.....

STS is Silver Thiosulfate....basically...a ratio of silver nitrate and sododium thiosulfate that is mixed together and sprayed on a FEMALE clone to make it a male. When said male is used to pollinate another clone of the same origin ...say a Bubba....then the cross of Bubba F turned male to the Bubba clone would yield an "S-1" (selfed) seed. This is not the same as a hermie. These are stable (if the clone used IS STABLE) seeds that will rep the original plant fairly well. Crossing the female-turned-male-clone to another strain gets you a "FEM' version of the cross. Say..Bubba(M) x Gorrila Glue (F)... then some clown names it something stupid..like "Prison Ape"...and off we go into sales land....

Rado and the other fem "breeders" do not truly "work" lines. They may hold a clone for awhile...or source clones that are well-known and have been around for awhikle...but chances are...they will hit the clones that are the FAD OF THE DAY because the newest/greatest always sells the best in this market. They aren't taking...say...TK91 anywherre or "working" that line because TK91 is a clone only...and with no male...the best you can do is reverse it and...basically...PRESERVE >that cultivar< of the strain. As has been said...about all you can do is buy fems from clone lines that have been ran for a bit and don't have tons of reports on instability.

ALL of the seeds I run now are fems or S-1's. I ran reg seeds for 3 decades...and keepers were rare. I also had "male luck". I could run a 10 pack and get 9 males and a mutant...time and time again.... and I got sick of the selection process and using my room to sex plants. All the Pucker crosses were fems...and I dropped 12 fems from 4 different sellers a few days ago for the next go

I've NEVER had a hermie on a female plant or an S-1/...whether I bought the seeds or made them myself..and I've ran fems for 15+ years now.....since the days of "Organkid" and his S-i bubba/Oger/Banana drop that got the whole "OG" train on the track. The GPS FAKE S-1 fiasco was my first rodeo in 30 years with seeds that weren't what the breeder claimed they'd be. I've ran LOTS of seeds that didn't produce the same killer phenos as the breeders PICTURES...but nothing that was..unknown/random/total crap/etc. like these S-1's were.

Cannarado's fems are as stable as any....and as others said...this is the FIRST time I hard of real troubles across a release. Here/there...yeah....it can happen.....but on and on complaints and replacing packs? I think this is his first rodeo with that shit....

so EASE UP a bit on Cannarado. He's a good cat and he's been at it longer than a lot of folks have had a garden....like many of us old fucks. He's riding the trend....and damn...he DOES have connections to be able to toss so many things our way. Take the good...leave the bad....as always.

Bottom line...it's a risky game on many fronts. If you can't afford to lose...don't play this game.
I agree. I have had overwhelmingly good experiences with rado gear. Haven't grown much of it myself, but a buddy runs his stuff almost exclusively and its always good shit. The last pack i ran (Sherb Valley) was a serious disappointment, but i can't bring myself to be too upset when i have seen and sampled so many winners. Can't win them all.
 

Davos Tyrell

Active Member
Davos.....

STS is Silver Thiosulfate....basically...a ratio of silver nitrate and sododium thiosulfate that is mixed together and sprayed on a FEMALE clone to make it a male. When said male is used to pollinate another clone of the same origin ...say a Bubba....then the cross of Bubba F turned male to the Bubba clone would yield an "S-1" (selfed) seed. This is not the same as a hermie. These are stable (if the clone used IS STABLE) seeds that will rep the original plant fairly well. Crossing the female-turned-male-clone to another strain gets you a "FEM' version of the cross. Say..Bubba(M) x Gorrila Glue (F)... then some clown names it something stupid..like "Prison Ape"...and off we go into sales land....

Rado and the other fem "breeders" do not truly "work" lines. They may hold a clone for awhile...or source clones that are well-known and have been around for awhikle...but chances are...they will hit the clones that are the FAD OF THE DAY because the newest/greatest always sells the best in this market. They aren't taking...say...TK91 anywherre or "working" that line because TK91 is a clone only...and with no male...the best you can do is reverse it and...basically...PRESERVE >that cultivar< of the strain. As has been said...about all you can do is buy fems from clone lines that have been ran for a bit and don't have tons of reports on instability.

ALL of the seeds I run now are fems or S-1's. I ran reg seeds for 3 decades...and keepers were rare. I also had "male luck". I could run a 10 pack and get 9 males and a mutant...time and time again.... and I got sick of the selection process and using my room to sex plants. All the Pucker crosses were fems...and I dropped 12 fems from 4 different sellers a few days ago for the next go

I've NEVER had a hermie on a female plant or an S-1/...whether I bought the seeds or made them myself..and I've ran fems for 15+ years now.....since the days of "Organkid" and his S-i bubba/Oger/Banana drop that got the whole "OG" train on the track. The GPS FAKE S-1 fiasco was my first rodeo in 30 years with seeds that weren't what the breeder claimed they'd be. I've ran LOTS of seeds that didn't produce the same killer phenos as the breeders PICTURES...but nothing that was..unknown/random/total crap/etc. like these S-1's were.

Cannarado's fems are as stable as any....and as others said...this is the FIRST time I hard of real troubles across a release. Here/there...yeah....it can happen.....but on and on complaints and replacing packs? I think this is his first rodeo with that shit....

so EASE UP a bit on Cannarado. He's a good cat and he's been at it longer than a lot of folks have had a garden....like many of us old fucks. He's riding the trend....and damn...he DOES have connections to be able to toss so many things our way. Take the good...leave the bad....as always.

Bottom line...it's a risky game on many fronts. If you can't afford to lose...don't play this game.

Ok I’ll ease up
 

Stiickygreen

Well-Known Member
Just have faith that Cannarado does know what he's doing....and that he wouldn't purposely/casually put out crap. Bottom line....shit happens. None of the genetics today are slam dunks for stability. There's just too much going on in the background of every damn strain out there today.

What's lost today is the spirit for the hunt. Like some folks here who are cash cropping...they have no real drive to dig in deep...their drive is merely to cash in quickly...time and time again. Today when folks don't find 10 keepers in a pack of 10 they do what we've seen here....which is attack the breeder. Unfortunately, what they have missed is that the folks >truly< growing commercially >are not< growing from seeds...because THEY KNOW seeds are a crap shoot. Duh. I never popped a seed one for over 15 (maybe 20!) years cus it was an elite-clone-only world that paid the bills and the folks who found 'em already did the HARD work. Seeds just take up time and space if you are cropping. Most folks cropping don't have the luxury (and aren't THAT dense) to devote rooms to such a crap shoot.

Enjoy that cash cropping while you can folks. It's all coming to an end within 5 years in all but the most stalwart right-wing concentration camps (States).

Much respect to those with skills and lives beyond the plant. Some folks have better grows...for sure...but when You see they are on here 24/7...um...yeah....pretty fuckin sad.

What a wake up call it's gonna be for those cats. Oh, my.

be safe out there folks!
 

Davos Tyrell

Active Member
Just have faith that Cannarado does know what he's doing....and that he wouldn't purposely/casually put out crap. Bottom line....shit happens. None of the genetics today are slam dunks for stability. There's just too much going on in the background of every damn strain out there today.

What's lost today is the spirit for the hunt. Like some folks here who are cash cropping...they have no real drive to dig in deep...their drive is merely to cash in quickly...time and time again. Today when folks don't find 10 keepers in a pack of 10 they do what we've seen here....which is attack the breeder. Unfortunately, what they have missed is that the folks >truly< growing commercially >are not< growing from seeds...because THEY KNOW seeds are a crap shoot. Duh. I never popped a seed one for over 15 (maybe 20!) years cus it was an elite-clone-only world that paid the bills and the folks who found 'em already did the HARD work. Seeds just take up time and space if you are cropping. Most folks cropping don't have the luxury (and aren't THAT dense) to devote rooms to such a crap shoot.

Enjoy that cash cropping while you can folks. It's all coming to an end within 5 years in all but the most stalwart right-wing concentration camps (States).

Much respect to those with skills and lives beyond the plant. Some folks have better grows...for sure...but when You see they are on here 24/7...um...yeah....pretty fuckin sad.

What a wake up call it's gonna be for those cats. Oh, my.

be safe out there folks!

I’m not a cash cropper I’m just doing this for myself... I’m just here to learn. I’m not sure if your aiming that statement at me or not but I’m in this for the long haul so get used to seeing me in this forum
 

Stiickygreen

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The comment was not aimed at you Davos. There's no sin in cash cropping. (though time is running out for such things) Just stating facts. Most big ops are clone-based. It's faster and more reliable by far than seeds.

Orange Cheddar sounds very tasty guys. I've ran Connoisseur Seeds Purple Cheddar and it is very tasty herb. Something I need to revisit, for sure.

I received 3 "Hyper Sally Cookies" as freebies awhile back and one is above ground for a look-see. Anyone run these? FWIW....I can't ever remember just running one seed...but with only 3 in the pack and no plans for taking clones/etc....as well as my overall luck with 'rado gear/strains...I figured I'd better save 2 back...just in case it was noteworthy.
 

Jhon77

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I agree. I have had overwhelmingly good experiences with rado gear. Haven't grown much of it myself, but a buddy runs his stuff almost exclusively and its always good shit. The last pack i ran (Sherb Valley) was a serious disappointment, but i can't bring myself to be too upset when i have seen and sampled so many winners. Can't win them all.
How many plants did you run?
 

Jhon77

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I received my replacement pack/s today too - Margalope and Roasted Garlic Margy.

I'm a little disappointed in the accidental pollination that happened with some of the East Cake packs but understand...shit happens. Rado was quick to replace these packs and very courteous in our correspondence.

And it sounds like the Frozen Margy has great potential and something I may have otherwise overlooked.

I do still have the one female EC going and I've seen no signs of intersex. It would be nice to know its genetic make-up so if anyone finds out please tag me.

My final order from the Labor Day In House sale along with some Sin City and Top Dawg I won in an IG auction all came today too. When I finish typing, something from this pile is getting wet. View attachment 4198700

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5 total. A run with 1 and 2 runs of 2.
So one pack?
 

Stiickygreen

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IDENTIFICATION
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Date:October 2018
Strain: Tri Fi Pucker
Judge: Judy
Breeder: Cannarado
Grower: Yes..it was a grower!

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PHYSICAL EXAMINATION
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1. Visual Appeal: Rate the visual appeal of the buds from 1-10 unappealing-excellent. 8

2. Visible Trichomes: Rate the visible trichome content from 1-10 none-totally covered. 8

3. Use an X to indicate the colors that are present in the trichome heads under magnification or list the percentages of each color for a more precise report.

Clear [ ] Cloudy [ x 50%] Amber [X 30%] Dark [X 20% ]

4. Mark with X the colors that are present in the buds or for a more detailed color analysis rate presence on a scale 1-9 light-dark.

Brown [ ] Green [X ] Gold [ ] Blue [ ] Grey [ ] White [ ] Red [ ] Rust [X ] Orange [ ] Purple [ ] Black [ ]

5. Bud density: [7 ] Rate the bud density from 1-10 airy-dense. For samples that are not in their natural state leave this field blank.

6. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the aroma of freshly broken bud where a one indicates a subtle presence and 9 indicates a pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ] Berry [ ] Floral [ ] Mango [ ] Pepper [ ]
Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [X Lighter Fluid ] Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ]
Melon [ ] Pine [ ] Cedar [ X] Grapefruit [ ] Menthol [ ]
Pineapple [ ] Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ] Chocolate [ ] Hash [ ]
Mold [ ] Skunk [ ] Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ] Musk [ ] Spice [ ] Coconut [ ] Leather [X NEW CAR smell] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry [ ] Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]


7. Aroma [8 ] Rate the aroma from 1-10 repulsive-delightful. Use freshly crumbled bud for best results.

8. Seed content [0] Rate seed content from 0-10 none-fully seeded.

9. Weeks cured [2] If known enter the number of weeks your sample has been cured. If desired repeat SSR after an additional two weeks of curing.

PHYSICAL EXAMINATION COMMENTS:
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THE SMOKE TEST
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Address these questions while smoking.

1. Please use a clean instrument for the evaluation. Enter information below that will identify the instrument as follows:

Water pipe (enter bong, hooka, bubbler etc) [ ]
Vaporizer (enter the brand name) [ ]
Pipe (size-type, ie medium-glass) [ ]
Joint (enter brand of papers) [X Elements ]
Other (specify):

2. Use numbers 1-9 on descriptors that apply to the taste where a one indicates a subtle presence and a nine indicates a very pronounced presence.
Delete the existing space when marking a descriptor in order to maintain the columns in alignment.

Ammonia [ ] Earthy [ ] Licorice [ ] Peach [ ] Berry [ ] Floral [ ]
Mango [ ] Pepper [ ] Blueberry [ ] Fruit [ ] Meat [ ] Petroleum [X Lighter Fluid] Bubblegum [ ] Grape [ ] Melon [ ] Pine [ ]
Cedar [X ] Grapefruit [ ] Menthol [ ] Pineapple [ ] Cherry [ ] Grass/Hay [ ] Mint [ ] Rotten [ ] Chocolate [ ] Hash [X] Mold [ ] Skunk [ ] Citrus [ ] Iron/Rust [ ]
Musk [ ] Spice [X] Coconut [ ] Leather [ ] Nutmeg [ ] Strawberry [ ] Coffee [ ] Lemon [ ] Orange [ ] Vanilla [ ]

If appropriate return to this question after 5-10 minutes and mark
with X any unmarked descriptors for lingering aftertaste.

3. Taste [8] Rate your impression of the taste from 1-10 unpleasant-delicious.

4. State of dryness [4] Rate the dryness of the bud from 1-10 wet-dry where 5 is ideal.

5. Smoke ability [8] Rate the smoke ability of the sample from 1-10 harsh-smooth.

6. Smoke expansion [6] Rate how the smoke expands in the lungs from 1-10 stable-explodes.

SMOKE TEST COMMENTS:

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FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
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Address final questions immediately after effects have worn off.

1. Dosage [ ] Enter the number of hits taken to reach desired effects.

2. Effect onset [ ] Rate how quickly the effect hit from 1-10 immediate-major creeper.

3. Sativa influence [ ] Rate the sativa influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Sativa influence is best described as a clear and energetic mental effect.

4. Indica influence [ ] Rate the indica influence detected from 0-10 none-extreme. Indica influence is best described as a sedative,
lethargic or numbing effect that affects the body.

5. Potency [7 ] Rate the potency of the sample from 0-10 none-devastating.

6. Duration [ ] Indicate the number of hours the effects lasted.

7. Tolerance build up [ ] Rate how quickly tolerance builds from 0-10 none-rapid. Leave this field blank if you have not used this sample repeatedly.

8. Usability [ ] Rate on a scale of 1-9 where a one indicates the worst time of day to consume this strain and a nine represents the ideal time of day.
Leave field(s) blank if you have not yet formed an opinion.

Morning - wake up [9] Day - work [9] Evening - relax [9] Night - sleep [9] Good anytime you want a tasty, stoney smoke sesh...

9. Overall satisfaction [8] Rate your overall satisfaction from 1-10 poor-Holy Grail.

10.Ability and conditions [ ] Rate your overall ability to judge from 1-10 low-high. Consider experience, strain familiarity, atmosphere,
current tolerance and most importantly the condition and preparation of the sample.

11.Judging from the sample alone do you personally consider this
strain a keeper for long term use. Yes [x] No [ ] (I don't keep moms/etc....but this is fine smoke and if I did...it would be a good one to share)

I didn't fill in a lot of the last part...so subjective to each person. Bottom line....it's good, tasty pot you'd be proud to pull out at most any party...and folks would be asking you where you got it.
 
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