Canadian Lawmakers Debate Delaying Legal Weed Until 2019

gb123 said:

No!

The UK sells more shit internationally

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Thanks for correcting me, I didn't realise gw pharm was exporting so much. I imagine once the # for '17 come in that'll change though considering how close the numbers were & how much the LP's have ramped up production. Since we have a legal framework compared to a single company, I still think we're in a better position to control the market.

Initially at least, like you said once there's a worldwide market it'll change the scene completely.

if we are allowed to sell it that is.. lol

there's that "if" again....

If LP's will be allowed to sell it our private individuals? LP's are already selling it & the libs have been pretty clear they want to license small growers to bring them into the legal market & undercut the BM. I have no doubt they will regulate smaller grows, it's a question of whether they will be functional or if the courts will have to fix them.

The government will f&@$ it up just like anything and everything else Cannabis the gov has touched

At least they're consistent? Sadly I agree though, I assume they make the application for micro grows will be too cumbersome for the average person

Somatek said:

I still think we're in a better position to control the market.

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Except with the shitty quality and poisons used, the LP's will be embarrassing Canadian growers on the world stage.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Except with the shitty quality and poisons used, the LP's will be embarrassing Canadian growers on the world stage.

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The only comment I've heard about it was from some germans who said it has a great reputation there. I also read somewhere that they're getting up to $20-25/gram in germany.

Which makes me wonder if we are either really spoiled or their skimming the cream of the crop to export & leaving the dregs to sell locally.

Somatek said:

the libs have been pretty clear they want to license small growers to bring them into the legal market & undercut the BM. I have no doubt they will regulate smaller grows,

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They want all grows to go through the LP system..that way they can control the BM better in their minds.
Fuck that boys n girls.......stay free everybody.....don't fall for this micro grow bullshit...it's a ruse.
They are trying to lure us out...don't take the bait.

The Hippy said:

They want all grows to go through the LP system..that way they can control the BM better in their minds.
Fuck that boys n girls.......stay free everybody.....don't fall for this micro grow bullshit...it's a ruse.
They are trying to lure us out...don't take the bait.

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The proposed rules for micro grows are fundamentally different & more limited (only 200 sq/m, up to 600kg, etc). So I assume it'll be looser requirements in some regard. I'd agree though looking at their history of cannabis laws that they'll fuck it up.

What's more interesting is how the license pot nurseries & the potential that opens up. To be of use though they'll have to let people grandfather in plants. If they try to push their "legal" plants, people will just laugh & keep on doing what they're doing.

Somatek said:

The only comment I've heard about it was from some germans who said it has a great reputation there. I also read somewhere that they're getting up to $20-25/gram in germany.

Which makes me wonder if we are either really spoiled or their skimming the cream of the crop to export & leaving the dregs to sell locally.

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Don't believe everything you read or hear. Prices in Germany are the same or cheaper than in Canada - about $12g
http://www.priceofweed.com/prices/Germany.html
I work for an organization of Israeli- Canadians and Israel is light years ahead of Canada in medicinal use research. If they were to legalize and export, they would eliminate the market for Canadian LP weed outside of Canada.

Isreal is ahead of us in terms of research but they're also tied up by laws & obligations to the states which prevent them from actively developing a market. Not to mention the political taint of having a worldwide divestment/boycott movement against them.

After reading some German papers though I've got a feeling foreign gov realise how lucrative the market is & will be pushing for local producers to develop. Those prices are on the street I imagine, LP's getting 20+ is in the pharmacies where there is a huge shortage & high demand.

VIANARCHRIS said:

Sounds like I touched a nerve....you are one sick puppy. Go find someone else to troll you old pathetic fool.

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no i am fine.. but never resort to perv talk. you are the sick one ..your kind disgusts me.. ..

the last person you tried it on kicked your emotionally feeble sorry snowflake ass verbally and you didn't post for weeks...

but yeh..since you talk like a loser

and have no sense of humour i am through with you..

Somatek said:

You don't think oil companies & pharmaceutical companies have influence on bills through their lobbies? I imagine the main driver is the amount the lins have invested in it. Especially after scraping election reform they need a win before the election.

I agree that a lot of LP's will go under for the reasons you listed. Although international exports could be a mitigating factor.

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The oil industry is self regulated, hence the problems with all the oil companies pilling up and lobbying. Its hard to make changes if theres zero third party regulatory body. As long as we don't let the cannabis market get that way amendments should theoretically be possible.

Somatek said:

The only comment I've heard about it was from some germans who said it has a great reputation there. I also read somewhere that they're getting up to $20-25/gram in germany.

Which makes me wonder if we are either really spoiled or their skimming the cream of the crop to export & leaving the dregs to sell locally.

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The LPs cream at the top is most growers sediment at the bottom.

CalyxCrusher said:

The oil industry is self regulated, hence the problems with all the oil companies pilling up and lobbying. Its hard to make changes if theres zero third party regulatory body. As long as we don't let the cannabis market get that way amendments should theoretically be possible.

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Which I think is a valid fear around the LP's, if they have too much influence on the microgrow regulations it could easily stifle the growth of the legal market. The less competition their shitty has the better their profit margins. Especially with the German courts saying they need to slow down the licensing process so domestic producers get equal consideration. If more nations follow that example it'll seriously impact their valuations which seem to be largely based on projected future market shares.

Hard to say what will happen though as the gov has been pretty clear they want to make an entry point to the legal market as another way to curtail the BM. I guess we'll have to wait & see but I assume it'll be the courts that mame it functional.

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

no i am fine.. but never resort to perv talk. you are the sick one ..your kind disgusts me.. ..

the last person you tried it on kicked your emotionally feeble sorry snowflake ass verbally and you didn't post for weeks...

but yeh..since you talk like a loser

and have no sense of humour i am through with you..

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You've said that on multiple occasions yet you can't miss a chance to call me out at every opportunity. Guess what HOMIE, if you can come to conclusions about who I am and what I am about without ever having met me, I can do the same.You are a fucking troll and a sorry excuse for a human being. See how that works, HOMIE? Fucking tool.