Cali Patient Closet Grow (girl scout, blue dream, lucid dream, HS)

lwayne88 · Dec 25, 2012

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They seem off to me... a little light colored, slow growing. What do you think?

Humidity:30%
Temp: 87day/ 70night
Soil: 2 in FFOX/ 3 in muddy organic soil; all five plants in 5 gallon fabric grow bags
Light: 1000w HPS
Air: Two 6-in intake fans, One 6-in outtake fan

History: Got these dispensary clones one week ago as rockwool cubes in soil. Immediately transplanted to a 5 gallon pot and drenched with water (tap water adjusted to 6.5pH and given 1/4 strength hydro vegetative solution, and normal strength root condition) until I felt some runoff. That was one week ago and I have not given them any water since, as the soil still feels moist a few inches down. I can only access this garden every three days, so I have a couple wicks running to the two FFOX pots, which dry much more quickly than the other three plants.

jackmac · Dec 25, 2012

I think you should turn the light off and the photos round 90 degrees

But from your description - you've just chucked a few babies, who before you got hold of them have probably had nothing but water at the right ph, into a huge vat of soil meant for an adult plant and then you've chucked a load of fertilizer on it which it doesn't need and which you say is for 'hydro', therefore probably not for soil....then some more food, then a shitload of water...after being in their little rock cubes - what do you think has happened?

jackmac · Dec 25, 2012

And while I'm at it - 1000w in a closet? How big?

lwayne88 · Dec 25, 2012

As stated in the previous post, they were given to me already in cups of soil. So they have been getting more than "just water at the right pH"

I gave the fertilizer (which the bottle say is suitable for soil and hydro) at 1/4 strength of the recommended "cloning" dosage. Also if I have overfed them, which you are overtly implying, then why don't they all burnt tips and/or twisted leaves? Why are they all light-colored as if suffering from a N deficiency? :?:

The closet is not that big, perhaps 2x6. The light is over four feet away from the plants.

I'll get better pics up in a couple of days...

jackmac · Dec 25, 2012

lwayne88 said:
As stated in the previous post, they were given to me already in cups of soil. So they have been getting more than "just water at the right pH"

I gave the fertilizer (which the bottle say is suitable for soil and hydro) at 1/4 strength of the recommended "cloning" dosage. Also if I have overfed them, which you are overtly implying, then why don't they all burnt tips and/or twisted leaves? Why are they all light-colored as if suffering from a N deficiency?

The closet is not that big, perhaps 2x6. The light is over four feet away from the plants.

I'll get better pics up in a couple of days...

what do you think has happened?

I'm not implying anything, I'm trying to help you think about it. I refer you to my first post

Got these dispensary clones one week ago as rockwool cubes in soil.

lwayne88 · Dec 25, 2012

I don't have any strong guesses. I suppose getting transplanted and then getting a heavy dose of water could have shocked them...

jackmac · Dec 25, 2012

lwayne88 said:
I don't have any strong guesses. I suppose getting transplanted and then getting a heavy dose of water could have shocked them...

..... and the medium change to a medium for adult plants, in a huge container....and the food they didn't need bcause that soil is full of food....

so - you've just chucked a few babies, who before you got hold of them have probably had nothing but water at the right ph, into a huge vat of soil meant for an adult plant and then you've chucked a load of fertilizer on it which it doesn't need [and which you say is for 'hydro', therefore probably not for soil]....then some more food, then a shitload of water...after being in their little rock cubes - what do you think has happened?

I don't have any strong guesses. I suppose getting transplanted and then getting a heavy dose of water [and all the rest of it] could have shocked them..

So your guess isn't so bad. Read up properly

jackmac · Dec 29, 2012

lwayne88 said:
It's been another 3-4 days and I have new pictures. Soil is moist several inches down and they don't seem (to me) to be begging for water, so still have not watered them since the original transplant nearly two weeks ago. I added two 2L ghetto CO2 yeast generators, and gave them very light misting with unflavored carbonated water at the beginning of the light cycle.

I still don't see much growth or improvement. Assuming I have overwatered, is there anything I can do besides wait? When should I call it quits and pull them out?

Good stuff - pull them out??!! What??!! Looking much much better! Relax - give them water when they look like they really need it - After that? More of the same -----

Then show us some more pics in a week or so - - - -

lwayne88 · Dec 29, 2012

It's been another 3-4 days and I have new pictures (though rollitup's picture uploader keeps rotating them sideways). Soil is moist several inches down and they don't seem (to me) to be begging for water, so still have not watered them since the original transplant nearly two weeks ago. I added two 2L ghetto CO2 yeast generators, and gave them very light misting with unflavored carbonated water at the beginning of the light cycle.

I still don't see much growth or improvement. Assuming I have overwatered, is there anything I can do besides wait? When should I call it quits and pull them out?

lwayne88 · Dec 29, 2012

Alright well if jack approves, I'll wait this out.

I gotta say though they these plants are like many girls: they look WAY better in pictures. In real life under my HID, they look quite yellow and brittle.

Grandpapy · Dec 29, 2012

Keep them warm, they'll take off.

jackmac · Dec 29, 2012

lwayne88 said:
Alright well if jack approves, I'll wait this out.

I gotta say though they these plants are like many girls: they look WAY better in pictures. In real life under my HID, they look quite yellow and brittle.

If the lighting is f'ing up the pictures then do us some without the light on!

lwayne88 · Jan 1, 2013

jackmac said:
If the lighting is f'ing up the pictures then do us some without the light on!

The first set of pictures is with HPS. The second set is with CFLs. This third set below, three days later, is with CFLs.

Few more leaves have some yellow spots. I gave some water (with a drop of Superthrive and 10mL of H2O2) to two of the plants with particularly dry soil.

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