C-99

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I'm currently in possession of 20 Tricloud C-88 x C-99 Seeds. While I don't know when I'll germinate any, I intend to gather information here regarding the origin of Cinderella 99 and specifically Tricloud's take on the work that went into his tribute of this legendary strain by some now defunct company called Brothers Grimm.

Long story short, this great stuff arrived on planet earth from Jack Herer bag seed. I will also add that the best herb I've ever personally had came from a 10 pk of Sensi Seeds Jack Herer about 12 years ago. Each plant in the pack was pretty good and noticeably varied, but one longer flowering and under yielding Jack blew my mind. It was like fresh pine and citrusy. The buzz took me to new heights. I think it was my first real intro to quality sativa. There has been talk about Sensi Seeds losing some of their breeding stock over the years, or I would have already stockpiled more of that original Jack Herer in hopes to locate something similar to that amazing genetic profile I once was lucky enough to stumble upon.
 
Jack Herer is certainly the tastiest weed I've ever grown & smoked, that strain only lack stability some plant finishing in 50 days other in 84, anyway Jack still deserve a 10/10 review & only require that a grower invest more time in selecting a mother. Cinderella 99 is a recombination of the same parent as Jack that was stabilized to finish as early as the fastest jack you could find, I'm sure you will like it very much & only wish i ad those seeds you got.
 
Cinderella Story
Comments from MrSoul:


I’ve been seeing a lot of posts from people asking for the “Cinderella Story”, so here it is:
In 1997, I discovered a few seeds in a bud of Jack Herer I bought @ “Sensi Smile” coffeeshop in Amsterdam while there to buy seeds. I didn’t expect much when I grew them, but one of those seeds from the JH bud produced a very special female that I call “Princess”.
Therefore Princess’ mother was a Jack Herer (IF we can believe what Sensi Smile printed on the package) and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant.

I also got 2 more females (Genius & Cafe’Girl) & several males from those seeds. I used pollen from one of the males on a heavy-yielding, dense, resinous ShivaSkunk (from Sensi Seedbank) female, then grew the resulting seeds to get males to produce pollen to cross Princess with, beginning the cubing process.
The first generation of seeds from Princess were called P.50 because they were 50% Princess. I used males from the P.50 generation to back-cross to Princess to get P.75 and again back-crossed with the P.75 pollen to get P.88 and again with the P.88 pollen to get P.94 which is “Cinderella 99″, a cubed version of Princess.


The name “Cinderella” was chosen because of the parallels between this story and the well-known fairy tale in which Cinderella becomes a Princess despite her humble beginning. It’s also VERY similar to the story of the “Morgan Horse”…go Figure
I ALWAYS see preflowers between the age of 4 and 6 weeks. Node 6 is commonly where they start, so I’d say you’re probably seeing them. The plants that show first are usually males. Look over each plant carefully, using a loupe. If you see a preflower at such an early age, it’ll most likely be male, but be SURE before culling it. If you can’t find a preflower on a plant, while most of the others HAVE shown… it’s most likely a female. Isn’t that uniformity NICE? Cinderella 99 is a STABLE strain. Cinderella 88 was close, but this generation is there.
(Cinderella needs odor control?) I don’t know if it helps you, but the scent is very sweet and fruity. It won’t “fool” anyone who’s familiar with MJ, but the average person might not recognize the scent as pot. They start to smell after 3 weeks of 12/12 and they’re harvested 4 weeks later, so the SHORT flowering cycle helps a bit by lessening the amount of time your garden “stinks”.
Yields are highly dependant on the methods used. Pruning style and number of plants/area make a BIG difference. I get about 2 lbs every 50 days under 2kW. I grow a combination of bushes and single-cola clones (about 12-20 of ‘em) in 2 gallon pots of organic soil, feeding them “teas” of dissolved worm castings, PSG, high phosphorus bat guano and kelp meal. My yields are average at best. Professional growers write me saying they get 2lbs/kW, which I’m sure is true.


The scent given off by Cinderella is NOT the typical “pot stench”…not at all skunky -she’s sweet and fruity. Someone passing by the flowering room MIGHT not recognize the scent as pot and mistake it for tropical flowers. When you rub the resin you can definitely smell it. C-99 is more “psychedelic”… I think that’s what you’re looking for eh? Just be sure to smoke a LITTLE, wait 10 minutes, then think about whether or not you need any more…it’s easy to over-indulge and become paranoid.
Haze is my favourite high. Very “trippy” C-99 is has more of the Haze type of high because the mother (Princess), has that kind of high and each time I back-cross to her the next generation gets a bit more of it. Smoking PURE Princess buds is a bit scary… it’s too “speedy” and paranoia-inducing for most people. But she’s so RESINOUS (see photo) and her flavour is just so delicious and fruity that I knew back-crossing her to her offspring over several generations would create a strain which is actually BETTER than the original mother in terms of a more PLEASING high. It was successful beyond my expectations.


The progression I went through was:
P.50 = Princess/(ShivaSkunk/Princess’Brother)
P.75 = Princess/P.50
Cinderella 88 = Princess/P.75
Cinderella 99 = Princess/Cinderella 88
Each generation exhibited a MAJOR jump in potency: P.50 was rather mellow, P.75 has a well-balanced body/mind high with a citrus flavour, Cinderella 88 is cerebral and paralyzing with a tropical fruit flavour, and Cinderella 99 is “TRIP WEED” with more of the fruity flavour and speedy effect from Princess.
C-99 will be a bigger yielder and faster finisher (than D/T) – which I personally think makes more sense to begin a grow with. If you’re growing under 1000W lamps, you should easily get a pound of C-99 per lamp after a 7 week flowering period. When you have all the weed you need and can take your time waiting for a long-flowering Sativa, THEN start those “extra” beans (included in your order)… I don’t know what the Bros Grimm sent you, but it’s NOT Durban/Thai. I’m still developing it, so they won’t see it for about 6 months.

Thanks for noticing her she IS beautiful! Cafe’Girl is a sister of “Princess” – Princess is the mother of the Cinderella series. Cafe’Girl smells like a combination of ginger, orange and cream… kinda smells like a “Creamsicle” -you know those ice cream bars? She has the highest YIELD of the 3 Sisters (Princess, Genius and Cafe’Girl). Cafe’Girl makes HUGE, DENSE, SPARKLING buds with a lovely high. A really sweet high, in that you never feel paranoid and it continues to “creep up” over the first 15 minutes after you smoke, leaving you feeling warm and at peace with life. Bros Grimm may offer an hybrid of Cafe’Girl when enough testing of her offspring has been completed.


1. I flower clones when they’re about a foot tall and they double in height during flowering.
2. They clone SUPER EASY.
3. Crossing Cindy 88′s will you a variety of phenotypes… they’re not stable. Cindy 99 IS STABLE.
4. The seeds are small, tan in colour and “speckled” not striped. If you ordered from either Bros.Grimm or Heaven’s Stairway you WON’T get ripped off…but I’ll describe the plants:

As seedlings they’re fast-growing, Indica-dominant with fairly wide leaves. They show preflowers @ 5-6 weeks old WITHOUT FAIL. They NEVER herm, so if the preflowers have pistils, it’s FEMALE forever. They flower RAPIDLY – you probably won’t believe how fat and dense and frosty they’ll be @ 4-5 weeks 12/12. The flower/leaf is EXTREMELY high; the tops of the colas go NUTS at about 5 weeks into flowering, sending braid-like floral cluster projections out in all directions without any leaves. Just before that happens, hundreds of SNOW WHITE pistils make the tip of the colas look like they’re wearing fur caps! The resin production is HEAVY (again, you won’t believe it), a HEAVENLY scent of tropical fruit and berries begins to fill the room @ 3 weeks of 12/12 and just keeps getting more overpowering ’til they’re done. The finished smoke is the type of high that keeps you UP; it’s very cerebral – the only body effect is the “jitters”. I certainly wouldn’t recommend it to anyone looking to “mellow out” on the sofa, BUT if you wanted to smoke before going running or cycling – PERFECT!


I smoked C-88 one eve after trying Silver Haze and the C-88 buzz cut RIGHT THROUGH the high of the Haze so badly that my wife asked me, “what did you do?… smoke too much?” The flavour is just like the scent; fruity and sweet…not at all hashy (not that there’s anything WRONG with that!…heehee.
Outdoors, Apollo 13 and Cinderella 88 will finish before October 15th at 43 degrees north lattitude.
If you liked NL#5/Haze, you’ll like C-99 too. It’s got a sweet, fruity taste and some of that “paranoia inducing” effect, very cerebral and speedy. The major advantages of C-99 over the old Haze x NL#5 from the original seed bank are rapid maturation and bigger yield. The highs and flavours are “different” but in the same class.
 
May 8th 2010
Tricloud writes:

"I didn't want to jinx myself and announce this until I had a cutting take root and survive acclimatization. I lost her a long while ago. She has been out to the west coast and finally made her way back home. I'm really stoked. We made some killer crosses with her once upon a time. She's bullet proof stable, finishes in 50 days, tastes very nice, super resinous and yields nice.

We crossed her with Herijuana and the offspring were amazing. Plants look like cactus's and have a super strong structure that have no problem holding up the super heavy super resinous flowers. Great outdoor plant for Michigan.

We also crossed her with Hillbilly Dreams TW and made a cross we named Crazy Train. It was also a huge hit and people still ask for it.

I didn't think I would ever get this clone back and I'm very fortunate to have done so!

Pure and Original Cinderella 99. I know she is because I got her from seed myself. Here's a pic I took of the exact plant:"

c99.jpg
 
Mystery Donor -
We will never really know what male strain originally pollinated Jack Herer to form C-99.

June 03, 2010
Tricloud writes:

"Yep, read that story many times but I remember it being at Cannabis World not Overgrow. The Brothers Grimm and many other breeders had their own forum at Cannabis World and that's where this info comes from. Soul fielded many questions about the Brothers Grimm lines at CW.

Yes Apollo13 and 11 were made with Princess offspring and crossed to the Genius clone.

It is very interesting how Soul took something as unstable as Jack Herer and made C99. The seeds that popped out of that Jack Herer bud must have been crossed with something fast. Jack Herer isn't near as fast as C99. Anyway that's my speculation, I think the Jack Herer buds were tainted with stray pollen.

Soul did a wonderful job and made quite an offering to our community. It sure would be cool if he fired up the presses and started breeding again.

Just for the record Soul states that Princess finished in 7 weeks, that's 49 days."

*****

Tricloud:

"They were both (OG & CW) established when I came onto the scene. I used to visit Heatherbuds site for genetic information. Cinderella99 was the talk of the cannabis community at the time and I had to have her and scored 3 packs of Original C99 from HS. The description fit the bill for the killer old Colombian stuff we used to get way back. When I grew her out she had that old school effect with an awesome new world flavor, didn't hermie, finished in 50 - 60 days and produces some of the most beautiful frost covered buds I've ever seen.

What more can ya say? She's the bomb!"
 
Thank You for that lesson Abe. I am glad it is early and I was able to read all that. lmao.

I Am Happy You Are Glad! Hopefully one day I can add more to this thread than just cut-and-paste information. Man I hope Tricloud doesn't mind me quoting him all over the place. I think he already ran out of his first batch of TC Cindy beans shortly after he released them.
 
It's not everyday Warren Buffet gives you an all you can eat meal, Thanks username474.

Old Warren has become quite the philanthropist in his senility.

Go,Go roots. That is the exact Cindy pheno that I am after,for vertical purposes, let me know if you ever have extra cuts from her.
 
How's the buzz compared to Jack Herer? Is it more clear headed/psychedelic/speedy? Or less so? I've heard really good things about this strain... and what you're saying makes it sound very special. :bigjoint:
 
C-99 is the only weed to make me paranoid as fuck in recent memory. I can smoke any other sativa all day long, but that stuff has me in my own kitchen flippin omelets.
 
Lol - yeah i get that occasionally from my JTRipper. I believe that C-99 is a major component in the parentage of the JTR genotype I was "gifted" lol. I get leaf mutations on the Ripper where buds form in the center of a leaf. Have read that this can be a trait inherited from bros grim cinderella. The paranoia is rarely a problem from me, well -when it occurs- I try to have fun with it anyway..

A note about the basic difference between Jack Herer and Cindy would be that the Jack has more indica and more of a body buzz would accompany the sativa soaring. Since Jack is a serious polyhybrid it has a bunch of variation, pine scent traits seems to be a common thread tho. maybe citrus, lemon lime too.
 
Oh, interesting... I really like JH but sometimes I wish it were a little clearer and more energetic. For some reason I had always thought C99 had more indica genetics than JH.
 
RIU thread 2-8-12 SSHZ said:

I bought a bunch of Mosca's C99 about 1.5 years ago.....actually I bought up a bunch (maybe 60 beans) with my quick typing fingers on an auction. I grew it out twice, and I think some of the grows are documented on THCFarmer. It's a nice representation of C99. Everyone claims to have/want the "fruity punch" pheno but I've never seen it- mine either had no smell or a citrusy odor and taste. And no, I've never seen the pineapple pheno either, although they may be talking about the citrus pheno which I found many of. They yielded very well a bunch of golf ball size hard nuggets, grew tall and were easy to handle with no issues. My first grow I let go to 60 days and it was average. My second grow I harvested at 52 days and they were perfect. Even Mosca states to harvest on day 51 or 52, no matter the color of the trichomes. And he's right. Letting it go longer destroys the speedy sativa buzz. I have not seen these offered again, other than in his hybrids lately. I plan on growing it out again, maybe in my next grow in April. I miss the buzz.
 
"tokin up in the mountains of my mind". - Friendly TokezRIU Cindy thread 2-8-12 Friendly Tokez said:https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/403357-mosca-seeds-cinderella-99-bx-9.html#If I were you I would order TGA Jack the Ripper, its a dynamically strong strain crossed with cindy99bcga, and Romulan, Jack Herer, Lambsbread (WHICH IS RIDICULOUS STRONG, famous level legendary), Purple Haze and Pluton. How can you go wrong? You can't. Hands down one of my favorite strains. I trust TGA to use the right cindy99.Also wanted to add I'm using a new promo code, purple420. I heard about it through fb. I know its at least a 10% discount but its brand new to Attitude and they might be adding extra benefits so use it and see what happens.
 
This stuff is sounding very appealing. From what I'm reading it sounds like it's a very euphoric strain. Ironically I often find sativas less prone to anxiety than indicas - I think the body buzz can trigger it sometimes.
 
Interesting.. an inexperienced person could have challenges with initial sativa sessions. the indy body-buzz and lethargy may not exactly be stimulating in positive way and has led me to dwell or lose time napping, lol. Everyones chemistry/mmj interaction is unique that's for sure. when I'm looking at a hybrid I like to start w a generalized, "what percentage mix of Indy and Sativa would you call this strain"? And why..SSHZ mentions that Moscas C99 is brothers Grimm x Reeferman.
 
Old Warren has become quite the philanthropist in his senility.

Go,Go roots. That is the exact Cindy pheno that I am after,for vertical purposes, let me know if you ever have extra cuts from her.

I'll look out for her and won't forget. Suppose this is the compact one... I have plenty to learn about C99. GoGo Girls w roots, lookin'.
 
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