Buddha's Liberal Diplomacy thread.

[Beefbisquit]

Rich people are always better off than poor people, regardless of race. Getting tutors and expensive private schooling gets you into better schools, which gets you better connections, which gets you better jobs, which in turn gets you more money.

 

[UncleBuck]

Go find it yourself. I'm not your tutor, although it appears you need one.

Not to mention you've already been told you that's not what Peterson said he was going to do. So, I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up after being repeatedly told that's not what he said. That's what you're claiming Peterson said, (he didn't) and then you're demanding that your hand be held and someone show you where he said the things that you made up.

AGAIN Peterson said he wants to speak to the fringes of the left and right to disuade them from becoming extremists. He repeatedly states how awful the far-right (Nazi's) and the far-left (Communists) are, and he tries to take a centralist view point.

Somehow you're getting dumber as time and posts progress.

So if Peterson wants to dissuade fringe righties like Gavin mcinnes from becoming extremists, can you show me when he did this?

After all, he did shows with neo-nazi Gavin mcinnes so he had ample opportunity to dissuade that leader of neo nazi paramilitary groups from becoming an extremist

I can even post the YouTube videos of Peterson doing shows with neo nazi paramilitary group leader Gavin mcinnes, and you can just point me to the relevant time stamp where he tries to dissuade Jim from his extremist views

Let me know

 

[UncleBuck]

I never once brought up Peterson here. There's a perfectly good thread for that in this forum even for that subject. UB is a complete psychopath.

Episcopalians are actually pretty down to earth people and accept almost anyone. So no one can claim religious oppression. It's all on him.

Do you think women who wear makeup at work are inviting their co workers to sexually harass and assault them?

 

[Beefbisquit]

So if Peterson wants to dissuade fringe righties like Gavin mcinnes from becoming extremists, can you show me when he did this?

After all, he did shows with neo-nazi Gavin mcinnes so he had ample opportunity to dissuade that leader of neo nazi paramilitary groups from becoming an extremist

I can even post the YouTube videos of Peterson doing shows with neo nazi paramilitary group leader Gavin mcinnes, and you can just point me to the relevant time stamp where he tries to dissuade Jim from his extremist views

Let me know

What is the difference between a host and an audience?

 

[UncleBuck]

What is the difference between a host and an audience?

I don’t know. Should I post the video of Peterson and neo nazi Gavin mcinnes and you can point me to the relevant time stamp where he tries to dissuade neo nazi Gavin mcinnes or his neo nazi audience from their nazi beliefs?

 

[Buddha2525]

Question #5

Do you think that the government should regulate corporate profits?

Yes.

Besides governments regulating profits, a private watchdog company should make sure government doesn't become corrupt and any citizen can look at what is happening too. Because government can become a dictatorship, just like private corporations become criminal syndicates when greed alone is the motivating factor.

 

[Beefbisquit]

I don’t know.

You should stick with this response when asked questions, because it's obvious.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Jordan Peterson has a swath of lectures and talks available on youtube.

Hundreds upon hundreds of hours of material in fact, and there within lies lectures on why the extreme right and extreme left are bad.

As someone who studied Nazism and communism in great detail, Peterson is quick to denounce them.

As someone who has no idea about Peterson, his lectures, what he believes or dissuades, you'd be best to shut the fuck up, Donnie.

 

[UncleBuck]

Jordan Peterson has a swath of lectures and talks available on youtube.

Hundreds upon hundreds of hours of material in fact, and there within lies lectures on why the extreme right and extreme left are bad.

As someone who studied Nazism and communism in great detail, Peterson is quick to denounce them.

As someone who has no idea about Peterson, his lectures, what he believes or dissuades, you'd be best to shut the fuck up, Donnie.

So is there any video of Peterson denouncing nazis when he actually does shows with them?

For example, when he did shows with neo nazi Gavin mcinnes

 

[UncleBuck]

Question #5

Do you think that the government should regulate corporate profits?

Yes.

Besides governments regulating profits, a private watchdog company should make sure government doesn't become corrupt and any citizen can look at what is happening too. Because government can become a dictatorship, just like private corporations become criminal syndicates when greed alone is the motivating factor.

Do you think women who wear makeup at work are inviting sexual harassment and sexual assault upon themselves?

 

[Buddha2525]

Do you think women who wear makeup at work are inviting sexual harassment and sexual assault upon themselves?

So you think the result of government regulating corporations profits leads to makeup at work invites sexual harassment and sexual assault? That's quite a leap in logic, Poops On Floors.

 

[Buddha2525]

#7

Do you feel that a strong military is necessary for fighting terrorism?

No I think too much military force creates more enemies than it eliminates.

It's not our place to be Team America World Police. All that does is create animosity with other nations. Droning is a civil rights and sovereignty violation. We should only step in if chemical or biological weapons are used because that has no place anywhere.

 

[Rob Roy]

Question #5

Do you think that the government should regulate corporate profits?

Yes.

Besides governments regulating profits, a private watchdog company should make sure government doesn't become corrupt and any citizen can look at what is happening too. Because government can become a dictatorship, just like private corporations become criminal syndicates when greed alone is the motivating factor.

Any government which derives it's control over people without the individual consent of those persons, doesn't need to "become dictatorial", it already IS dictatorial, by virtue of the involuntary aspect / lack of consent in the relationship.

To the unconsenting individual whether the dictatorship is by one person, by several, dozens, hundreds or thousands, the means used (an involuntary relationship backed by threats of force or actual force) is what makes it dictatorial.

Governments and corporations are brethren, in that they exist to give some people "extra rights" and legal immunity which other people don't have. Both should be abolished since they are antithetical to equal human rights.

 

[Buddha2525]

Any government which derives it's control over people without the individual consent of those persons, doesn't need to "become dictatorial", it already IS dictatorial, by virtue of the involuntary aspect / lack of consent in the relationship.

To the unconsenting individual whether the dictatorship is by one person, by several, dozens, hundreds or thousands, the means used (an involuntary relationship backed by threats of force or actual force) is what makes it dictatorial.

Governments and corporations are brethren, in that they exist to give some people "extra rights" and legal immunity which other people don't have. Both should be abolished since they are antithetical to equal human rights.

I agree. But what do we replace them with so we don't turn into Ethiopia who are in a state of lawlessness? Not that anarchy means no law, it's just the risk of such is very high if not planned properly.

 

[Rob Roy]

I agree. But what do we replace them with so we don't turn into Ethiopia who are in a state of lawlessness? Not that anarchy means no law, it's just the risk of such is very high if not planned properly.

Logic dictates that a goal of individual human rights cannot be achieved if the mechanism to achieve it violates individual human rights.

Voluntaryism and Panarchy come the closest to maintaining the logic. In other words, if you want socialism, you should be free to create and live in socialism with other like minded people, while not being able to dictate socialism over others who prefer something else.
Peaceful coexistence can only happen if voluntary human relationships are the norm.


Generally speaking I prefer "natural law" over "statutory law" , since it fosters responsibility and equality of opportunity to run our own lives, but not others lives for them.

 

[Beefbisquit]

Your fans include Christian conservatives, atheist libertarians, the hard right and neo-Nazis. Do you disown any of your followers or their actions?

Well, the Christians are somewhat ambivalent about me. I’m a bit too much on the gnostic side for most of them. I wouldn’t agree [that I have neo-Nazi followers]. The hard-right people aren’t very thrilled with me. I’ve said very forthrightly that I don’t care who’s playing identity politics, whether it’s on the right or the left. It’s reprehensible. I haven’t gone after the hard right as much politically, although I have in my lectures, but the reason is the hard right doesn’t occupy the university – the hard left does. Alan Dershowitz, an extremely liberal lawyer at Harvard, said last week that the hard left in the universities posed a clear and present danger to free speech, and that the alt-right is mostly a figment of their imagination.