Brown Wilting and a little crispy...

SeeRockCity · Apr 14, 2013

So... my White Widow that just got to week 8 of flower lost all her fan leaves.
After flushing, she got kind of crispy...so I went ahead and harvested.

there are two others showing similar symptoms....

Sick Widow -

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Sick Sweetooth -

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and a few pics of my healthy ones.....

Healthy White Widow:

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Healthy (but small) Bubblegum -

help!

SeeRockCity · Apr 15, 2013

90 views and no insight?!?! ahhhhhhhh

Coho · Apr 15, 2013

You using alot of bloom nutes?

SeeRockCity · Apr 15, 2013

not really. I am on the Fox Farm basic three....
supplemented with molasses, and epsom (recently replaced with calmag)

little bit of Humbolt Big Up every other week or so in flower...

hyroot · Apr 15, 2013

You under watered. When soil gets too dry too often. Leaves will curl upwards a little bit and turn crispy. Lower leaves will die off. You do also have nute burns. Cut back on the phos.

SeeRockCity · Apr 15, 2013

Negative on the under watering.... if anything I OVER water.
They get a watering a minimum of every 48 hours.

These plants were 100% fine.... then they showed signs of calcium deficiency.
I gave them CalMag and stopped all nutes for a week.... only CalMag and water... 1tsp / gal

any other theories?

hyroot · Apr 15, 2013

Oh ok that made it easy. You used too much Cal mag. Too much calcium or low ph will cause potassium lock out. You have a potassium deficieny. Flush. Then make a compost tea with kelp meal in it. Jobes organic heirloom tomato mix from Home depot will work great. Its high in potassium. $10

Fyi too much mag can cause Cal lock out.

SeeRockCity · Apr 15, 2013

ah ha!

interesting.... won't do that again!
made my beautiful ladies look like SHIIIIIT

I use straight potassium silicate in my soil...
will have to add some to the topsoil when I flush....

SeeRockCity · Apr 19, 2013

hyroot said:
Oh ok that made it easy. You used too much Cal mag. Too much calcium or low ph will cause potassium lock out. You have a potassium deficieny. Flush. Then make a compost tea with kelp meal in it. Jobes organic heirloom tomato mix from Home depot will work great. Its high in potassium. $10

Fyi too much mag can cause Cal lock out.

hey, so I flushed the crap out of it and added my FoxFarms Big Bloom and Tiger BLoom (both containint potassium)...
do you think that will do the trick?
leaves are still browning and dying..
I'm, not sure if I should chop or wait...
I fear if I wait...my buds will wilt too..

this sucks

AimAim · Apr 19, 2013

I use a minimum 1 tsp/gal of cal-mag every watering, from seedling to harvest and never OD on it. You never said if you were soil or hydro.....

Bakatare666 · Apr 19, 2013

SeeRockCity said:
hey, so I flushed the crap out of it and added my FoxFarms Big Bloom and Tiger BLoom (both containint potassium)...
do you think that will do the trick?
leaves are still browning and dying..
I'm, not sure if I should chop or wait...
I fear if I wait...my buds will wilt too..

this sucks

How about some fresh pics?
If was me, and I flushed to try to eliminate a lockout situation, I would wait a week or so before feeding ANYTHING again.
To me, I would agree with the burn opinion, as in your first and second pics, the tips of the lower leaves more than anything else are showing the most damage.
As far as your 'buds wilting', as long as you water, they should be OK for a quick minute.
What you are going through right now, is foliage damage, which, if you don't get under control, will cause the slowing if not complete lack of growth as far as the buds are concerned.
Need leaves to grow, right? :wink:

70's natureboy · Apr 20, 2013

Coho said:
You using alot of bloom nutes?

btdt, too much bloom nutes

SeeRockCity · Apr 20, 2013

Bakatare666 said:
How about some fresh pics?
If was me, and I flushed to try to eliminate a lockout situation, I would wait a week or so before feeding ANYTHING again.
To me, I would agree with the burn opinion, as in your first and second pics, the tips of the lower leaves more than anything else are showing the most damage.
As far as your 'buds wilting', as long as you water, they should be OK for a quick minute.
What you are going through right now, is foliage damage, which, if you don't get under control, will cause the slowing if not complete lack of growth as far as the buds are concerned.
Need leaves to grow, right?

I started a new thread with newer pics....
because the healthiest Widow I had decided to follow suit in wilting...

they all got a good flush...
and they all look pitiful as shit.

I'm on the fence as to letting it live to finish or not...I dont want the buds to wilt

https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/646380-white-widow-life-support-chop.html

+rep for anyone who gives correct advice....
i just hope that she takes the flush and moves one.... my flower room went from an awesome canopy that smelled terriffic
to 4 days later.... 3 of 4 plants wilting and dying and a HORRIBLE smell of wilting, browning leaves coming from my flower room.

I really just want to cry...
my investment got fucked right before I got a return.

Beeve · Apr 20, 2013

SeeRockCity said:
ah ha!

interesting.... won't do that again!
made my beautiful ladies look like SHIIIIIT

I use straight potassium silicate in my soil...
will have to add some to the topsoil when I flush....

When I use Potassium Silicate- I dilute 1/4ml to 1 liter of water. And I don't do that every watering. I do that every third watering. The Potassium Silicate will strengthen your stems and branches- kind of what Rhino skin does.

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