Brampton city tap water

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xtsho

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Herb potman said:
That’s awesome to know. So there’s no need to leave my water out for 24 hours pre feed or water. I can go from tap to plants. With ph adjust tho right. Or do u have any tips for a newbie
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Some people will tell you to leave it out but it's not necessary. I've been using tap water with a higher chlorine level than your water for decades without any issue. In fact, I used to add chlorine bleach to my reservoirs when I was doing hydro to prevent root rot and keep everything sterile. Plants actually use chlorine. The amounts in tap water are not anywhere near enough to be harmful. That's just cannabis broscience / a myth.
 
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Herb potman

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Thanks u very much jimbo. So no need for me to leave tap water out for 24 hours to let some chlorine evaporate ? Cuz I heard if I do that I solve chlorine issue if one but then I let out oxygen and need a bubbler in water to keep it to good oxygen level for plants U have been very helpful. Iam guna start some autoflowers in FFOF for first grow. Using General Hydroponics Flora Series. Any advice or tips Wud be very helpful. Thansk again
 
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Jimbo the Gael

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No need to leave it out. The whole chlorine being bad for plants thing is a myth. In Ontario the max level of chlorine is nowhere near enough to harm your plants.

To sterilize water they add enough chlorine to kill microorganisms. Then they reduce the chlorine, between the treatment plant and your tap, to a level that inhibits reproduction of microbes, but isn't enough to kill them outright. They can do this because it is essentially a closed system until it reaches your tap. Pool water has the level of chlorine needed to kill microbes.

I have never used the soil or nutrients you're using. I just use Promix organic vegetable & herb mix, and megacrop. But cannabineer has you covered for that.
 
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Herb potman

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cannabineer said:
Yes, that one. I also improvised some cal-mag but can’t tell you how often I used it.
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Which one do U use often. The calmag? I was told cuz I doing autos that I leave out the calmag. What do u think. Shud I grab some calmagic. Or wait for when I do photoperiods
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Jimbo the Gael said:
No need to leave it out. The whole chlorine being bad for plants thing is a myth. In Ontario the max level of chlorine is nowhere near enough to harm your plants.

To sterilize water they add enough chlorine to kill microorganisms. Then they reduce the chlorine, between the treatment plant and your tap, to a level that inhibits reproduction of microbes, but isn't enough to kill them outright. They can do this because it is essentially a closed system until it reaches your tap. Pool water has the level of chlorine needed to kill microbes.

I have never used the soil or nutrients you're using. I just use Promix organic vegetable & herb mix, and megacrop. But cannabineer has you covered for that.
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Slight adjustment. Active chlorine species get their work done at 1 to 5 ppm.
Chloride ion above 100 ppm is a competing ion ( for the uptake mechanism) and thus tends to cause lockout. Apples/oranges imo
 
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Jimbo the Gael

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cannabineer said:
Slight adjustment. Active chlorine species get their work done at 1 to 5 ppm.
Chloride ion above 100 ppm is a competing ion ( for the uptake mechanism) and thus tends to cause lockout. Apples/oranges imo
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This what you're referring to?
active chlorine species.JPG
And chloride levels above 100 ppm will cause lockout in plants?

Not a chemistry buff, so if I'm way off base here feel free to elaborate.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Jimbo the Gael said:
This what you're referring to?
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And chloride levels above 100 ppm will cause lockout in plants?

Not a chemistry buff, so if I'm way off base here feel free to elaborate.
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Yes, hypochlorite, N-Cl compounds and elemental chlorine are active chlorine.

Chloride ion, like in table salt, might begin visible lockout around 100ppm on up. It depends on conditions, nutrient and the phenotype.
 
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Jimbo the Gael

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Ahh, okay. If you dig into the water quality report it lists "naturally occurring" chloride levels. The acceptable level of chloride in the water is given at 250 mg/L, and the actual level is about 25 mg/L, however I don't know what that is in ppm.
That report is actually pretty detailed and gives a general description of the treatment process. Pretty interesting.
 
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ElGrandeMongo

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Jimbo the Gael said:
Ahh, okay. If you dig into the water quality report it lists "naturally occurring" chloride levels. The acceptable level of chloride in the water is given at 250 mg/L, and the actual level is about 25 mg/L, however I don't know what that is in ppm.
That report is actually pretty detailed and gives a general description of the treatment process. Pretty interesting.
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1ppm = 1mg/L
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Jimbo the Gael said:
Ahh, okay. If you dig into the water quality report it lists "naturally occurring" chloride levels. The acceptable level of chloride in the water is given at 250 mg/L, and the actual level is about 25 mg/L, however I don't know what that is in ppm.
That report is actually pretty detailed and gives a general description of the treatment process. Pretty interesting.
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25 ppm chloride should be without effect.
 
Doug Dawson

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Hey Man, I am also in Peel but south of Brampton. The water in Peel does not use chlorine, it uses chloramine. Difference being if you leave chlorinated water out the chlorine will evaporate in a day or 2, chloramine does not. That is why many places use it now, it is more effective. The levels in our water should not hurt your plants any, it doesn't hurt mine. Get a PPM meter and figure out what your reading is, mine are reasonably low. There is calcium already in the tap water so go low on Calmag and possibly add some Epsom salts for Magnesium.
 
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Jimbo the Gael

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Doug Dawson said:
Hey Man, I am also in Peel but south of Brampton. The water in Peel does not use chlorine, it uses chloramine. Difference being if you leave chlorinated water out the chlorine will evaporate in a day or 2, chloramine does not. That is why many places use it now, it is more effective. The levels in our water should not hurt your plants any, it doesn't hurt mine. Get a PPM meter and figure out what your reading is, mine are reasonably low. There is calcium already in the tap water so go low on Calmag and possibly add some Epsom salts for Magnesium.
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Huh. Page 17 of the report specifically mentions the use of chlorine, but nowhere does it mention chloramine. Did they change it recently?
There's also this from page 7 (I think, I closed the pdf before checking this).
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Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Jimbo the Gael said:
Huh. Page 17 of the report specifically mentions the use of chlorine, but nowhere does it mention chloramine. Did they change it recently?
There's also this from page 7 (I think, I closed the pdf before checking this).
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Actually you are correct, my mistake. I am in Mississauga and both Mississauga and Toronto use Chloramine, odd that Brampton does not. That is actually even better for you. If you draw your tap water and let it sit out for a day or 2 all the chlorine will evaporate. The levels are not strong enough to hurt your plants, even in the areas where they use chloramine. So I suppose the take away is you should be good to go. I don't let my water sit as chloramine does not evaporate like chlorine does and my plants are quite happy
 
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xtsho

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They use both chlorine and chloramine here in Portland. Neither is added in municipal water supplies to effect the plant. The only people that need to worry are beer makers. Craft brewers will run their water through activated charcoal filters but most home brewers will use Campden tablets (sodium metabisulphite). But there is no need for doing any of that for your plants.
 
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Herb potman

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Doug Dawson said:
Hey Man, I am also in Peel but south of Brampton. The water in Peel does not use chlorine, it uses chloramine. Difference being if you leave chlorinated water out the chlorine will evaporate in a day or 2, chloramine does not. That is why many places use it now, it is more effective. The levels in our water should not hurt your plants any, it doesn't hurt mine. Get a PPM meter and figure out what your reading is, mine are reasonably low. There is calcium already in the tap water so go low on Calmag and possibly add some Epsom salts for Magnesium.
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Ppm is 220. In tap water all together
 
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