blind, deaf and still hallucinating

So a thought came to mind today and I was wondering what the rest of your opinions might be on the subject. The question was, if someone was blind from birth, could they still have closed(or open) eye visuals? And obviously immediately following that question I thought, and if a person was deaf from birth, could they still experience auditory hallucinations? Both of these questions of course are referring to drug induced hallucinations, not an actual problem with the person such as schizophrenia. (But what do you think about it in that case too?)

I decided to google it before asking and found this study on the deaf question.
http://mindhacks.com/2009/09/16/do-deaf-people-hear-hallucinated-voices/

The problem is I'm pretty sure the article is more about things like schizophrenia, and the answer in my opinion is pretty shitty if you could say there's an answer at all. It's like "maybe"...

So over all, what are your thoughts on this?

my cousin is deaf and has been since birth. she and i have tripped on numerous occasions ('shrooms) and she has lost her shit at times while tripping... she was trying to tell me that she was having some sensations that she thought was sound, but nobody could tell for sure. she had never experienced actual sound, and couldn't explain what was happening...

i used to have a system in my jeep that pounded the bass and she loved riding around in that with the volume pumped up so she could feel the music (or talk radio)...

RightyMcquick said:

my cousin is deaf and has been since birth. she and i have tripped on numerous occasions ('shrooms) and she has lost her shit at times while tripping... she was trying to tell me that she was having some sensations that she thought was sound, but nobody could tell for sure. she had never experienced actual sound, and couldn't explain what was happening...

i used to have a system in my jeep that pounded the bass and she loved riding around in that with the volume pumped up so she could feel the music (or talk radio)...

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That's the kind of reply I was hoping for, thank you for sharing.

I can't imagine what that would be like for her, and the whole topic has kept me absorbed for a few hours now just pondering it. Some say that the hallucinations can be views into other worlds etc, meaning that you wouldn't need prior experience of the sensation of sight or sound in order to experience it while tripping, because its coming from a different source. It would be amazing to be in her shoes and feel that just once, and be able to come back and verify that she was actually HEARING, even though she doesn't know what it is like to "hear" and was very understandably confused. It's just so mind blowing to think about lol.

It's a shame Albert Hofmann never met Helen Keller. Even with her disabilities, she was wonderfully literate, and would have described the trip evocatively. Jmo. cn

when people are born with such disabilities, other senses become more dominant , i bet they would notice it with smells or tastes or what ever sense they do have

Before I head out for the night I just want to say something real quick again. Don, although you answered my specific question, and I completely agree with what you said; I feel like you kind of dodged the TRUE meaning of the question. Really what I'm asking is, if you were to be born without one of the senses, sight, hearing, taste, so on and so forth, would you be able to experience that sensation during a trip. Again I really don't mean to point you out or throw you under the bus so to speak, I'm just furthering the food for thought on this mind numbing topic.

Still thinking about what Righty said, imagine being deaf, and then experiencing an auditory hallucination. It would be so hard to explain to the person who has experienced sound their entire life, that you are now hearing. What would you possibly say?(or should I say sign?) "I'm experiencing sound!...I think..." It's not like the other person can try to verify it being asking "really? what do you hear?" because it would be impossible for the deaf person to describe or define because they have no basis to work from ya know?

I'm probably just thinking into it too much like I so often do, but I thought I would share with everyone and maybe I have a few of you racking your brains over it now too

edit: or did you mean that if they were missing a sense, that they wouldn't gain anything from it in the sense they are missing, but all the other senses would be that much more intense? I thought I had a quick grasp of what you might have meant, but by the time I hit edit I couldn't word it right, as usual

You might like to read some Oliver Sacks, specifically An Anthropologist on Mars and The Man Who Mistook his Wife for a Hat. In one of them, he treats of people with sensory derangements that come andor go, and the outstanding difficulty people have who have not been trained for a lifetime in the interpretation of those sense data.
From his writings, I'd opine that folks missing a sense or two probably have drug-induced sensory phenomena that they cannot place or recognize as such. I half-remember having cognitive modes available that defy sober description ... I'm pretty sure that the analogy carries over to the sensory. cn

I mean maybe a blind person can witness. " visuals"

When tripping nuts on acid if you close your eyes you still see visuals. Reminded me of the screen savers.
Like the windows bouncing ball. Nothing crazy though.

I convinced myself it was my thoughts bouncing around my brain lol

Acid is one hell of a drug.