bills that relate to the medical marijuana community updates here!

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Sneezy

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http://www.state.co.us/gov_dir/leg_dir/olls/billsummaries/

this site allows you to track any house or senate bill and the amendments! follow the link and put in the bill number in the right box (house (4 digit) senate (3 digit)) and it will take you to a summary of the amendments to the bill if any exist.

I tried house bill 1284 and it said that there were no amendments currently

but this .pdf is the most current text i could find with both house and senate amendments

http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/medicalmarijuana/1284_enr.pdf


hope this helps you guys keep up on the laws! the more we as patients understand the laws the more we are able to fight for the rights of others that dont have a clue or cant have a voice in the fight for our rights according to the law!

be well and medicated or just well medicated!

-Sneezy
 
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Sneezy

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hmmm seems like they can take any fines paid and put it in the general fund though! page 25 lines 15-21

15 (4) UPON PAYMENT OF A FINE PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (3) OF
16 THIS SECTION, THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA LICENSING AUTHORITY SHALL
17 ENTER ITS FURTHER ORDER PERMANENTLY STAYING THE IMPOSITION OF
18 THE SUSPENSION. FINES PAID TO THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA LICENSING
19 AUTHORITY PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION (3) OF THIS SECTION SHALL BE
20 TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE TREASURER WHO SHALL CREDIT THE SAME TO
21 THE STATE GENERAL FUND.
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so now i ask myself why would this be?
 
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Sneezy

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hmm this is very interesting

page 37 lines 8-11

8 (d) (I) THE STATE HEALTH AGENCY SHALL MAINTAIN A SECURE
9 AND CONFIDENTIAL REGISTRY OF AVAILABLE PRIMARY CAREGIVERS FOR
10 THOSE PATIENTS WHO ARE UNABLE TO SECURE THE SERVICES OF A
11 PRIMARY CAREGIVER.
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the only mention on the automated phone line says they dont offer any help when finding a dispensary, but never makes mention that they are available to help find a primary caregiver!
 
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pikes peak 69

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Man you need to look at the current LAW. That's an old copy. The Law states that a DR, cg and patient gives up confidentiality on the qualifying condition if you use an affirmative defense.
This law fucks patients so hars (without lube) it's not even funny.
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Sneezy

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after just getting in a few pages

(9) "MEDICAL MARIJUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT" MEANS A PRODUCT INFUSED WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA THAT IS INTENDED FOR USE OR CONSUMPTION OTHER THAN BY SMOKING, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO EDIBLE PRODUCTS, OINTMENTS, AND TINCTURES. THESE PRODUCTS, WHEN MANUFACTURED OR SOLD BY A LICENSED MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER OR A MEDICAL MARIJUANA-INFUSED PRODUCT MANUFACTURER, SHALL NOT BE CONSIDERED A FOOD OR DRUG FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE "COLORADO FOOD AND DRUG ACT", PART 4 OF ARTICLE 5 OF TITLE 25, C.R.S.
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what are these products then? if not a food or a drug?
 
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pikes peak 69

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They are a food or drug, BUT to keep the FDA regs out of them, they put that word NOT in there to help reduce regs on these products.
That in itself I THINK is good for us.

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Sneezy said:
after just getting in a few pages



what are these products then? if not a food or a drug?
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Sneezy

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(b) ON JULY 1, 2010, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT SHALL LOAN TO THE STATE LICENSING AUTHORITY, CREATED IN 12-43.3-201, A SUM NOT TO EXCEED ONE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA CASH FUND CREATED IN 25-1.5-106. THE STATE LICENSING AUTHORITY SHALL PAY BACK THE ONE MILLION DOLLAR LOAN TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 31, 2010.
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do we know how we can track the repayment of this debt?

(g) IN RECOGNITION OF THE POTENTIAL MEDICINAL VALUE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA, MAKE A REQUEST BY JANUARY 1, 2012, TO THE FEDERAL DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION TO CONSIDER RESCHEDULING, FOR PHARMACEUTICAL PURPOSES, MEDICAL MARIJUANA FROM A SCHEDULE I CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE TO A SCHEDULE II CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE.
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at least that stayed in the mix! but i noticed the wording was changed some

(X) SECURITY REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY PREMISES LICENSED PURSUANT TO THIS ARTICLE, INCLUDING, AT A MINIMUM, LIGHTING, PHYSICAL SECURITY, VIDEO, ALARM REQUIREMENTS, AND OTHER MINIMUM PROCEDURES FOR INTERNAL CONTROL AS DEEMED NECESSARY BY THE STATE LICENSING AUTHORITY TO PROPERLY ADMINISTER AND ENFORCE THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ARTICLE, INCLUDING REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR CHANGES, ALTERATIONS, OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE PREMISES;
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big wording and requirement changes here from the pervious bill!

(VIII) A PERSON WHO HAS DISCHARGED A SENTENCE IN THE FIVE YEARS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE APPLICATION DATE FOR A CONVICTION OF A FELONY OR A PERSON WHO AT ANY TIME HAS BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY PURSUANT TO ANY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW REGARDING THE POSSESSION, DISTRIBUTION, OR USE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE. page 18
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so this doesnt seem to be an end all for someone with a felnoy to own a medical marijuana center (why not just call it a dispensary lol) just those with felonies related to well the above!
 
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riddleme

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while caregivers have been reduced to only 5 patients and selling at cost to grow

IMO patients need to re-think where they spend thier $$$
 
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iscrog4food

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that means chemmy buds from cash cropping despensaries. are those mites? just azamax it who cares if it is in flower...were not smoking it. Seems like it has been one step forward and 2 steps back. This bill basically makes barriers to entry for the market and shifts the power to the established despensaries.
 
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TreeOfLiberty

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riddleme said:
while caregivers have been reduced to only 5 patients and selling at cost to grow

IMO patients need to re-think where they spend thier $$$
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How does the state know if a caregiver is selling at cost? Have they written a certain dollar amount that an ounce cannot go over? I would never sell below $150 per ounce in todays current market with dispensaries selling Oz's for $350 on average, that would mean you would have to harvest a pound every 4 weeks just to make $2400 at $150 per Oz., that would also mean if you had 5 patients to supply for that each one would have to pay $480 a piece per month if they were all buying equal shares of that pound (3.2 Oz. a piece). The state would see that as making a profit but I wouldn't-I'd call it a bargain with todays prices, hell it would take at least 2-600 watt HPS'es set up on a rotational cycle to pull a pound a month with clones on the side waiting to go. If the big dispensary outfits can profit, why can't the mom n pop caregivers? I have a good theory why....because the state can't effectively tax the little grower and wants the little growers to not make money forcing all people who buy to go to the big dispensaries where they make more money resulting in the state making more money through licensing bullshit fees and sales taxes.

The best herb always comes from the mom n pop grows because they are smaller grows with more attention and care, and also cheaper prices than the big dispensaries which care nothing but about how many pounds they can turn at over-inflated prices. If anything I wish it was in reverse with the dispensaries going down making room for more care givers. I feel the corporate sector/politicians have a plan to turn the Medical Marijuana business into McMarijuanolds (pun on McDonalds), and stop caregivers altogether. I can't understand the Colorado MMJ bill, its meant to be confusing even for attorneys , but it makes enough sense that its in favor for the huge growers who have unlimited resources.
 
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riddleme

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TreeOfLiberty said:
How does the state know if a caregiver is selling at cost? Have they written a certain dollar amount that an ounce cannot go over? I would never sell below $150 per ounce in todays current market with dispensaries selling Oz's for $350 on average, that would mean you would have to harvest a pound every 4 weeks just to make $2400 at $150 per Oz., that would also mean if you had 5 patients to supply for that each one would have to pay $480 a piece per month if they were all buying equal shares of that pound (3.2 Oz. a piece). The state would see that as making a profit but I wouldn't-I'd call it a bargain with todays prices, hell it would take at least 2-600 watt HPS'es set up on a rotational cycle to pull a pound a month with clones on the side waiting to go. If the big dispensary outfits can profit, why can't the mom n pop caregivers? I have a good theory why....because the state can't effectively tax the little grower and wants the little growers to not make money forcing all people who buy to go to the big dispensaries where they make more money resulting in the state making more money through licensing bullshit fees and sales taxes.

The best herb always comes from the mom n pop grows because they are smaller grows with more attention and care, and also cheaper prices than the big dispensaries which care nothing but about how many pounds they can turn at over-inflated prices. If anything I wish it was in reverse with the dispensaries going down making room for more care givers. I feel the corporate sector/politicians have a plan to turn the Medical Marijuana business into McMarijuanolds (pun on McDonalds), and stop caregivers altogether. I can't understand the Colorado MMJ bill, its meant to be confusing even for attorneys , but it makes enough sense that its in favor for the huge growers who have unlimited resources.
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cause they are supposed to be documenting cost of growing and sales
 
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whiteflour

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TreeOfLiberty said:
How does the state know if a caregiver is selling at cost? Have they written a certain dollar amount that an ounce cannot go over? I would never sell below $150 per ounce in todays current market with dispensaries selling Oz's for $350 on average,
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It's called record keeping, and they don't have to it. That is called supply and demand. Economics 101 might do you some good.
 
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