Big Buhda Blue Cheese - not potent can you help?

morrisgreenberg

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i didnt know where to put this question, only thing i did know is that lots of old schoolers roam this thread and much experience here and i know you guys seen every issue in the book, a few months ago i grew out BB blue cheese, very healthy, finished product was the most perfect looking, best smelling, trich covered stuff ever, i mean it had it all, except potentcy, loaded with trichs, it looked like the picture the breeder shows. what happened is i had many diiferent strains from seed, so i only grew out 2 of each, out of the 2 fems i chose the healthiest most vigorous and maid it a mother. the mother i chose turned out to be a little lanky, you could tell there was sativa in there, but this strain is supposed to be mostly indo, any way i gave her much care, environment was perfect, was pulled at 10 weeks with all cloudy and some aber trichs. so i chalked it up to "shit happens" bad luck. so now i have the same issue with DNA's LA Con, perfect conditions, lots of love and care, grew out just as they described it, picturesque, same issue with this one, smells amazing, tons of trichs, not pulled early gave an extra week, all plants were in perfect health never nute burn or deficient. now i had run paradise's whiteberry, GHS trainwreck, a WW from sedsman, jorges diamons and all came out as expected. so i had 2 strains that were like puffing air, at first like i said could be bad luck, but now 2 different strains from 2 different breeders?
 

morrisgreenberg

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heres the stats and conditions of the envirnoment:
Blue cheese in the summer till fall was in a sealed room, a/c co2, plenty of air circulation, carbon scrubber temps from 74-78F, water was chilled at 65F, nutes used were Botanicares PBP gro and bloom, cal-mag for i have tap water at 40ppm, Liquid karma, sweet, and cha ching at the end, monthly flushs and always had hygrozyme. last 7 days plain water.never foliar fed, never had problems with bugs or molds so plants were rarely misted and that was very early on, plants were all lollipopped for the exception of like 4 for comparison plus being lazy.

DNA's LA con

since fall arrived i ran passive intake/exhaust to control temps and humidty, no co2 needed, plants during veg were robust and just amazing, lollipopped then gave plants a week to recover then put into flower.(all plants get 4 weeks veg from clone) perfect health all the way thru with more heavier feed, they ate like pigs. plants finished perfectly again, smell, looks and over bag appeal was great, except when you light it up it is comparable to shwag in over high. now since i have ran many different strains this year i knew it was me or my technique cus in the same rooms i had trainwreck and ww and whiteberry that came out great, is it really possible that they just were not at all potent? i mean it was like smoking a cigarette, everyone that tried it was amazed at how great looking and smelling they were but it did nothing at all to them
. lighting was 4 ebb pots under a 600w hps in a 4x3 area so light was not the issue, they all had the same nutes with no deficiencies. late in flower i ran de-humidifiers and temps often dipped into the 50's during the winter. could humidty being very low be the problem? most of the time it was less that 40%. but i have read many places that low RH will make them more resinous.
 

reeferMaster

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sounds like u did something majorly wrong, as far as i know bb blue chesse is sativa dominant with a 50/50 sativa indica buz, i think i read u used co2, and from what i hear u need higher temps 2 grow with co2 like 85+, also i dont belive that u even had amber tricks becuase those other strains are indicas whitch will finish almost a month faster then sativas,, train wreck will also take long, u have any pictures? having a steady 40% humidty mite be the culprit let them dry out more often and then u can watch the trichs start coving the buds more, i think u picked it early, the main reson for most potency defficency try growing it again, alotta people are very happy with this strain, if ur doing seeds u could have gotten a reall shitty pheno, try clones.
 

morrisgreenberg

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breeder suggests 8-10 weeks on the b cheese, same for the TW, same conditions the TW might be the best shit i ever had , also the cheese had a 3 week cure. co2 at higher temps will increase growth rate, but when running a sealed room no matter the temps you must supplement it. then what about the LA con, same issue but with a standard exhaust system. you think i got unlucky twice?
 

reeferMaster

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yes if u are a newbie grower the likely ness of u ruing the plants is about 90%, it could be just that maybe that plant was the one that got over waterd, maybe went threw stress issues, maybe it cannot handle the nutes like the others can, it could have had some type of disease internally, small case of root rot, or bacteria infection other plants desire different things so try 2 grow them as individuals and not as if thier the same , when running diffeent strains they grow much different and as u will realize will require many different things for example different plants have different kinds of root systems whitch will make it harder 2 water some plans as the water will go around the dirt instead of draning through the dirt, by picking up the pots u can see how heavey they are some plants may need 2 be waterd before others, so if ur watering all of them at the same time u may be over waterin g the same plant multiple times whitch will cause slower growth and root root issues,the dirt should get bone dry, if u have a moister instrament u will notice it reads dry when the dirts still moist, thats when its proper 2 water u dont want a constant wet just a nice moist cool enviroment for the root systemthe roots are fight for the water at the bottm so bottm feeding is great, or small amounts of top feed 2 alow proper air flow with in the soil, when dirts wet it has a natral air flow with in the losse dirt, but when plants get over waterd its suffocating all off those air ways the roots love, drainage is ver important
 

morrisgreenberg

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i used ebb and grow systems, the TW went with the LA con only because they are both heavy feeders, as for stress and root zones they were perfect in every case, this is why i strongly doubt its my method and skill. i do not mix strains because all strains are different and require more or less of certain minerals. this is not my first rodeo. what i am getting at is that, in perfect health, adaquate nutirents, no stress, clean and healthy rootzone, and never pulled too early, am i from the school of thought that when you think its is ready, give it another week and check the trichs. thats why i posted here, i never had any problems in the passed few years but to have this happen with 2 strains in 6 months is crazy. i admit selecting a mother based only on vigor during veg and only have 2 of each to choose from i could have certainly had the runt of a seed pack, these mothers were never tested or flowered before i kept cuts of them, so i never got to sample a finished product. now its one thing that a plant comes out shitty like little trichs or too leafy and airy bud, but to have these 2 strains be picturesque in smell and resin production to not be effective in any way is bonkers to me. around my way they call this the "imposter"
 
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