BIG BUD Help.. old leaves dying at 10 days

spooksimilla · Sep 26, 2008

i germinated my seed in 10 jiffy pellets which i soaked in tap water..squeed out the excess etc and put in my propogator and 8 sprouted within 3 days. I put the sprout in cups and now they've been growing for about 10 days since sprouting and ive thuroughly watered them twice cus i dont wanna over water.

his is what im workin with so far...
-10 BC Big Bud Seeds (non-femenized)
-200w CFL for veg
-Miracle Grow potting Soil
-12oz styrofoam party cups
-1 fan
-Supermax B1 nutrient (1-2-1) (3ml/ litre solution which ive only used once)
-my grow area has one window which i guess is enough ventilation??

The older leaves are getting spots on them and dying and i think this trend seems to be moving up the plant cause i checked today the upper leaves arnt looking as good as in this picture.

spooksimilla · Sep 26, 2008

forgot to add that im not sure yet what my ph is but im gonna run out an grab one today cus i think it might be a ph related problem...??

spooksimilla · Sep 26, 2008

anyone else ever grow big bud?

waylive · Sep 26, 2008

lose the miracle grow buy the cheap none time released soil and transplant MIRACLE GROW SUCKS FOR POT! speaking from exp.

ThomJefferson · Sep 26, 2008

Looks like lacking oxygen in the roots. Use 35 ~ 40% vermiculite in the soil mix next xplant and careful with the watering for now.

spooksimilla · Sep 27, 2008

aww damn...well thanks a lot guys i really appreciate the help. Ill get some different soil for transplant if my plants survive and let you know what happens.

stoneymontana · Sep 27, 2008

low ph which causes nutrient lock out pretty quick if you are not a real scientist with your soils and ph , go with fox farm ocean forest like 20 bucks a bag and well worth it . those pics look like nute burn from getting nute water on your leaves ??

spooksimilla · Sep 27, 2008

i was thinkin about the nute water thing also..but its only the bottom leaves that are gettin these spots so it probably IS the miracle grow...imma take ur advice and try out the fox farm though, hopefully its not too late

stoneymontana · Sep 27, 2008

No definately not to late just wash out your roots really well while you are transplanting and always ph your waTER. hERE ARE SOME PICS OF MIRACLE GROW PROBLEMS AND AFTER i FIXED WITH NEW SOIL AND FLUSHING

spooksimilla said:
i was thinkin about the nute water thing also..but its only the bottom leaves that are gettin these spots so it probably IS the miracle grow...imma take ur advice and try out the fox farm though, hopefully its not too late

awry · Sep 27, 2008

for foxfarm soil which one is best?

stoneymontana · Sep 27, 2008

Ocean forest is what I use

awry said:
for foxfarm soil which one is best?

awry · Sep 27, 2008

guess its off to the local hydropon store tomo!

and transplant all 8 seeds i put in MG potting soil today!

stoneymontana · Sep 27, 2008

It is possible to use but I am not that hard pressed to use shitty soil if I do not have to and fuck with it for weeks trying to get the ph right ??

awry said:
guess its off to the local hydropon store tomo!

and transplant all 8 seeds i put in MG potting soil today!

spooksimilla · Sep 28, 2008

stoneymontana said:
No definately not to late just wash out your roots really well while you are transplanting and always ph your waTER. hERE ARE SOME PICS OF MIRACLE GROW PROBLEMS AND AFTER i FIXED WITH NEW SOIL AND FLUSHING

so just to clarify, when you say wash out the roots..do you mean physically when im transplanting, or after by flushing??

stoneymontana · Sep 29, 2008

but you have got to be very careful and just try and get as much soil off of the root mass as you can so that you can get your ph back up in the living !! I did just that with the plant I gave you pictures of and it still produced 1 and a half oz. It will go in shock for a few days but recover and be happier in the long run , I think ??

Backwoodz · Oct 7, 2008

How are they doing? Any change? Iam also using Supermax B1 BUT dont see why you are using 3ML A Litre....On the label it says to use 1ML per litre or 1-2 Litres for hydroponics with a reservoir..

Remix · Oct 7, 2008

they are only 10 days old in that picture?

spooksimilla · Oct 8, 2008

<<Update>> (just over 3wks old now)
anyways to update i transplanted em into pro-mix hp (couldnt get ocean forest) and im using properly ph'd water...they're already getting back in shape. They got REALLY bad though before transplant. now they're in 1gallon grow bags and maybe 6-7 inches tall each.(pictures soon, gotta borrow my buddies camera again)
-about the B1 supermax i was actually using 1ml per litre just quoted wrong
-Im using a 10-15-10 fert my bro gave me at half strength now but im not sure if i should use something with a higher "N" rather than "P" cus its veg...does it matter that much?

Thank you so much stoney for the tips they REALLY helped a lot

stoneymontana · Oct 10, 2008

spooksimilla said:
<<Update>> (just over 3wks old now)
anyways to update i transplanted em into pro-mix hp (couldnt get ocean forest) and im using properly ph'd water...they're already getting back in shape. They got REALLY bad though before transplant. now they're in 1gallon grow bags and maybe 6-7 inches tall each.(pictures soon, gotta borrow my buddies camera again)
-about the B1 supermax i was actually using 1ml per litre just quoted wrong
-Im using a 10-15-10 fert my bro gave me at half strength now but im not sure if i should use something with a higher "N" rather than "P" cus its veg...does it matter that much?

Thank you so much stoney for the tips they REALLY helped a lot

anytime bud , just glad to see they are doing better . I am having a time with my clones right now myself ?? we all have problems that need fixin ! haha

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