Big Bang First grow

eager apprentice said:

cheers bruv, the only probs i have at the minute are a lack of veg space - my cabinet crew are rapidly outgrowing the space their in so im in a bit of a dilema:

i have 2 areas - room on 12/12 - cabinet on 18/6.
my 2 x BB plants in the cab are ready for bigger pots but i dont have the room for bigger pots in the cab so if i transplant them then will have to be put straight into flower room and wont reach their potential - ideally they would spend a week or 2 in bigger pots then switch to flower.

any advice?

oh and the flowering BB is rather yellow today so i will give her a large dose of biobizz grow with her next water.

other than that things are sweet - i have LST'd my best widow clone and the other widow clone is looking very nice in the experimental hempy pot - although im not seeing a difference in growth rate between her and the BB clone that was transplanted at the same time as the Widow but into a soil pot.

cheers.

EA.

PS. will try and take some pics later on.

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possibly doing some prunning might help the situation, space problems suck just gotta do the best ya can. make sure you do a monthly flush of H2O (3 times the amount of soil) to keep those salts from building up. can't wait to see the pics

yeah man your right - thing is i didn't want to burn my small plants with the 600w HPS so i built a little veg cab to start them off but then i wanted to try cloning and the more i looked into the perpetual side of things the more it appealed to me - i mean 2 months is long enough to wait between harvests right? But my cab is too small to veg plants big enough to put straight into flower - i can see a bigger cab build coming on!!!

EA.

2 months is plenty between harvests alot better than my turn around

Hello folks - here it is the mamoth rtask that is the weekly photo update, not that i mind - in fact im loving this new hobby!! It's fookin' amazing i reckon..........

not much to report other than the cabinet crew outgrowing the space their in.....will have to just do my best for now but i really need a new bigger veg space if im going to utilise my 600w light and flowering space properly - anyway for a first grow im still pretty chuffed - was expecting alot more problems than this but i guess all the research / money spent has paid off!!
the flowering girls are getting 1.5 litre of 6.5ph water every 3 days (on average - i measure the moisture in my soil before watering) - every other watering they get 2ml/l of biobizz grow & 3ml/l of biobizz bloom. Next feed it will be 1.5ml/l grow & 4ml/l bloom.

the update pics:

flowering room - all plants have been on 12/12 for 4 weeks).

1. Big Bang 1 (13 weeks old) & 2 x White Widow (10.5 weeks old).
2. different view of the same plants as listed above.
3.White Widow 1.
4. White Widow 2.
5. Big Bang 1.
6. Big Bang 1 cola - getting wider by the day and i know know what Franco means when he says green apple smell - it really does smell of apples!!
7. White Widow 2 cola - frosty!!
8. White Widow 1 cola - frosty!!

that it peeps- - hope thats not too m any pics to look through and i apologise if my thread is a bit boring but thats my plants - im pleased and cant wait for the first chop / chop in 4 - 6 weeks time!!!

cheers.

EA.

PS - i have been trying to upload my cabinet pics but it keeps coming up with a security message and doesn't let me upload the pics do i will try and do the veg cab update in another post........

right - sorry folks, i meant to run all thes epics togehter with the last post but had upload probs - anyway better late then nver, i hope someone enjoys them!

vegging cabinet - Big Bang 2 & 3 which were started from seed have been vegging for 5 weeks now - BB2 was Fimmed 2 weeks ago. The other 4 plants are clones from my flowering girls - 2 from BB1 and 1 each from WW1 & WW2, the WW2 clone i have LST'd and the other WW1 clone i have put into a trial Hempy pot.

1. BB2 (Fimmed).
2. BB3.
3. BB1` clone 2.
4. WW1 clone (hempy)
5. the gang through the draw bridge door!
6. the gang again - draw bridge down!
6. BB1 clone 1 & WW2 clone (LST'd).
7. BB1 clone 1 & WW2 clone (LST'd).
8. WW2cclone (LST'd) side view - check out the 2 90 dgree bends! ace - my first little lst experiment, missus reckons its cruel to the little girl but i love all this trial and error stuff!
9. WW2 clone (LST'd) plan view.
10. cabinet crew minus the BB1 clone 1 and WW2 clone (LST'd).
11. BB2 (fimmed) side view of top.
12. another pic of BB1 clone 1 and WW2 clone (LST'd) - have a guess which plants are my favourites in the cabinet????

Phew!!.....finally, 2 hrs to finish this update - i hate it when the site has a few upload problems!

cheers.

EA.

Hey lookin good EA, if that yellow on the Big Bang is a problem alittle Nitrogen fertilizer will clear it up. how often have you flushed your plants? Overall, great looking grow thats gonna be some good smokin

BudgetGrower87 said:

Hey lookin good EA, if that yellow on the Big Bang is a problem alittle Nitrogen fertilizer will clear it up. how often have you flushed your plants? Overall, great looking grow thats gonna be some good smokin

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thats what i cant figure out mate - my BB has had plenty of biobizz grow recently and the last flush was a week ago - i looked at her just now and i think the leaves are showing a bit more green than yesterday so im hoping they'll come good.

all in all the BB has had 2 main flushes - prob not enough?

eager apprentice said:

thats what i cant figure out mate - my BB has had plenty of biobizz grow recently and the last flush was a week ago - i looked at her just now and i think the leaves are showing a bit more green than yesterday so im hoping they'll come good.

all in all the BB has had 2 main flushes - prob not enough?

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well different stains require different amounts of fertilizer Indicas with the exception of 'Hindu Kush' take high end dosages

Sativa hybrids take lower end dosages

Idk what big bang is but that will let you know how tolerant the plant is to salt build up

You should flush every 30 days with 3 times the amount of water as the size of the container of soil. If you flushed afew days ago you should be good, thats good news if the yellowing is reversing some, by harvest time it shouldn't be a problem.

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my big bang has these funny little sacks on 3 of the lower branches?????? they dont look like the male bannanas in the hermie pics i have seen but could they be seeds coming through? either way i think my BB is an 'it' NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

now i have to check if the WW's have been affected - im sooo upset i cant bring myself to write anymore.....

dang dude, sorry that sucks update when you figure somthin out.

eager apprentice said:

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my big bang has these funny little sacks on 3 of the lower branches?????? they dont look like the male bannanas in the hermie pics i have seen but could they be seeds coming through? either way i think my BB is an 'it' NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

now i have to check if the WW's have been affected - im sooo upset i cant bring myself to write anymore.....

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Hey EA

Sorry to hear bout ur plants mate... i read a thread on here that BB from GHS have a tendancy to turn hermi, im hoping that this isnt the case... Hope yous turn out ok mate, keep us updated mate.

Peace

yep - BB hermi, grow3joe had one, now me too - plus the little 'it' has ruined the lower branches of both of my WW's - i could chop the lot of them down and never plant another seed the way i have been feeling - positively gutted, but and its a big BUT - i have put in too much hard work, time and money to give up now - just need to work out what to do?????

Anyway - like i mentioned its literally just the lower branches of the plants and there are far more on the BB (seed pods i mean - not male balls) than the widows so i am hoping that if i can keep an eye on them - something i should have done more carefully before now - idiot!! - i will hopefully spot any more male balls that show up and cut them off, there is still plenty of bud on all 3 of the plants but it will obviously not develop as much now and any i do get will be seeded and not as strong - but if i can let these finish, clean my room and hold off the others in my cab i will start again with eager ladies in a few weeks time!!

What i dont know is should i chop my clones that came from BB in case the hermi is genetics or flower them in case it was me messing, for example:

1) with the light cylce times - which did happen a couple of times due to power cut for 10mins and timer issues once.
2) i also moved my bulb blower fan last week and the temps rose.
3) i added cat litter to the trays to help with smell and it lowered the humidity.

A final thought - because i dont know for sure if it was the BB that hermied or one of the WW or both - anyone of them could be the culprit so please dont put it down to your GHS seeds just yet - tho the odds arent good since she has far more seed pods and has also been showing signs of stress - the WW's have not.

cheers EA.

please give me some advice?????????

@ EA

1) the plants will think a cloud blocked the sun, if its under an hour your ok
2) the tempature rising to what degree? plants can withstand up to 95*F and be ok. more than that and you stress the plant. any kind of stress is bad but not fatal to the plant.
3)the clones from the hermi plant are 100% going to be hermi, its exactly the same plant genetics as the mother. (unless you think you stressed the plant into being a hermi AFTER the clones were selected. Keep humidity low when flowering once i had a huge top bud that rotted inside out due to humidity levels during flowering. Aim for levels in the 40% to 60% range never exceeding 60%.

keep clipping those seed pods and get the bud you already have. It happens somtimes don't let it get ya down. keep on growin

BudgetGrower87 said:

@ EA

1) the plants will think a cloud blocked the sun, if its under an hour your ok
2) the tempature rising to what degree? plants can withstand up to 95*F and be ok. more than that and you stress the plant. any kind of stress is bad but not fatal to the plant.
3)the clones from the hermi plant are 100% going to be hermi, its exactly the same plant genetics as the mother. (unless you think you stressed the plant into being a hermi AFTER the clones were selected. Keep humidity low when flowering once i had a huge top bud that rotted inside out due to humidity levels during flowering. Aim for levels in the 40% to 60% range never exceeding 60%.

keep clipping those seed pods and get the bud you already have. It happens somtimes don't let it get ya down. keep on growin

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Hey BG

Wouldnt a cloud blocking the sun still shed some light, we have lots of clouds in england but its still light lol... i think the pitch black when it should have light can cause ur plant to turn hermie, thats what i have read anyway, i think that could of caused your probs.

EA dont worry though, just keep cuttin the balls off and finish your grow, give ur room a good clean after just to be on the safe side and then carry on, cant let these lil things get us down.

Hope things in ur grow are well.

Peace

right - i pulled my BB into a space inside my house so i could literally check her over in detail and it had the male pollen sacks at the internodes on some of the branches so it is definately 100% hermie - i think?

Next i will take out the WW's 1 at a time and check them over too - in detail and then i will know whether they too are 100% hermie or have been polinated by the BB shemale.

if i find no nanners on them it will mean that BB was the culprit and presumably i can let the Widows finish off without the fear that any more buds will become seeded.

or how does it work? Will seeded bud then grow male nanners?

please advise cos im doing my nut in !!

EA.

so how are things goin EA? just updated my journal if your interested.