BHO/Budder

theexpress

Well-Known Member
budder aint hard to make.... all you gotta do is heat it and whip it for a while.... some strains budder up better then others....
 

kbo ca

Active Member
It's pretty easy get an ounce of BHO.... let it sit in a LARGE container for a few days, maybe stir it like taffy once or twice.... then removing .2g from the 28g... and sending it in yourself?


Your assuming that dispensaries ask the salesman, for a .2g sample of oil before they buy the 28g. and after receiving a good sample test, they buy it..... they are not stupid, they were probably drug dealers before they profession went legal in their state.. they don't get conned easy.

I'm sure they are pulling their samples from one big pool. It's pretty easy to tell BHO apart..
Thats exactly what some clubs do. Or as a producer you can send your own sample to the lab, completley bypass the club and get your strain or concentrate certified. All they accept is a two gram sample per test.
 

Bodhi Diesel

Active Member
some do send samples off to a lab. key words being some, and samples. The lab tests are inaccurate. They test a small sample of cannabis, or concentrate, then label the whole batch as such. Steep hill labs is the leader in cannabis testing. They state in some of their own videos and on their website that all categories of testing vary at different points on the plant. So the only accurate reading is on the sample piece that is sent in. Ever had mold on a plant?? I have. some of the bud had it, and some didn't. Yet i can get my whole crop stamped with the steephill certified clean cannabis seal by just sending in a couple of grams of the buds that didn't get mold on them. It's a good idea but not perfected. Also it costs quite a bit to do testing, and pay for shipping. I would rather buy some concentrate that has no posibility of having butane in it, just for medical reasons.
You obviously have never done business with SteepHill Labs as your statements are false. When certified by SteepHill your entire "crop" is inspected and then sealed onsite in Nitrogen filled bags with the Lab's logo, Strain Name and weight on each bag.



The Collective I belong to will not even consider your product unless it shows up in the above shown bags.
 
i'm sure diffrent growers have differnt results

does any1 know how this stuff compares 2 the s.Cal! FullMELTS? iv'e had some killerCaL! stuff recently!
 

kbo ca

Active Member
You obviously have never done business with SteepHill Labs as your statements are false. When certified by SteepHill your entire "crop" is inspected and then sealed onsite in Nitrogen filled bags with the Lab's logo, Strain Name and weight on each bag.



The Collective I belong to will not even consider your product unless it shows up in the above shown bags.
They don't test your whole crop. You send in samples and they test those. The sample when tested is ruined and cannot be used. So the only way they could test your whole crop is if they destroyed it all chopping it up into petri dishes. If you choose, you can send in a larger amount for the nitrogen packaging, at which time they will take a four gram sample from the batch, two grams for thc cbd, and two for molds and pesticide testing. It isn't standard to do this. Many growers will send in samples for potency. i have done this a few times just to get a ball park cbd and thc percentage. It is usually the dispensary that puts down the money for this special packaging, but I have never heard of one where it is required for intake. Even harborside, the first place to get all of their products tested, intakes herb in turkey bags. REspect...
 

Bodhi Diesel

Active Member
They don't test your whole crop. You send in samples and they test those. The sample when tested is ruined and cannot be used. So the only way they could test your whole crop is if they destroyed it all chopping it up into petri dishes. If you choose, you can send in a larger amount for the nitrogen packaging, at which time they will take a four gram sample from the batch, two grams for thc cbd, and two for molds and pesticide testing. It isn't standard to do this. Many growers will send in samples for potency. i have done this a few times just to get a ball park cbd and thc percentage. It is usually the dispensary that puts down the money for this special packaging, but I have never heard of one where it is required for intake. Even harborside, the first place to get all of their products tested, intakes herb in turkey bags. REspect...
If you want your product "SAFE CANNABIS" certified, you bring the entire crop. If you just want a sample tested you send one in. I am specifically talking about "SAFE CANNABIS" certification.

There are only a handful of 'SAFE CANNABIS" certified dispensaries and my collective is one of them. I have, regularly for over two years had my crops certified and I never said the entire crop is tested. The fact is, you take your entire crop to them, THEY take the representative sample out, inspect the rest for consistency and THEY bag it, seal it and certify it.
Harborside is NOT the first to have product testing, where do you get your info from?
 

RobbieP

Well-Known Member
completly off subject but can you make budder with iso oils ? i have some iso oil but its treacle color , is it possible to make budder with it and if so how ?
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
entire crop.

crops certified entire crop.
entire crop to them
Why in the hell are we talking about crops.


This is an OIL thread.... that whole block of information had nothing to do with this thread. BHO is not cannabis flower.... it is cannabis's essential oil. How they test flowers/plants, and the any alleged inaccuracy is irrelevant how they test oil.

If your going to post something about testing OIL, please do.... but if your going to talk about FLOWERS, realize you are in the wrong place to even debate anything about them.
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
completly off subject but can you make budder with iso oils ? i have some iso oil but its treacle color , is it possible to make budder with it and if so how ?
I'm going to go on a whim here... As I've never specifically "tried" doing that.... though I'm not sure if you even can *try*.


ISO oil is the product your left with from making OIL, with ISO..

Budder, is the consistency/product you get from using butane as a solvent, and whipping the resulting material as it bubbles...



Some strains will budder better than others, and depending on certain exposure to certain solvents for certain amounts of time, you can also alter consistency...


So I'm going to say if you actually want BUDDER... like BHO budder.... you need to use Butane rather than isopropyl.



It's all about how those solvents act on our oils, as we remove them from our flowers. The end product we get is what it is...

You cant bubble butane out of ISO oil and get *budder* because there is no butane in ISO oil. Get it?
 

Bodhi Diesel

Active Member
Why in the hell are we talking about crops.


This is an OIL thread.... that whole block of information had nothing to do with this thread. BHO is not cannabis flower.... it is cannabis's essential oil. How they test flowers/plants, and the any alleged inaccuracy is irrelevant how they test oil.

If your going to post something about testing OIL, please do.... but if your going to talk about FLOWERS, realize you are in the wrong place to even debate anything about them.
Talk to kbo ca, he's the one that brought the off topic subject to this thread and I couldn't let his erroneous information stand unchallenged.

Sorry about the topic drift.
 

RobbieP

Well-Known Member
I'm going to go on a whim here... As I've never specifically "tried" doing that.... though I'm not sure if you even can *try*.


ISO oil is the product your left with from making OIL, with ISO..

Budder, is the consistency/product you get from using butane as a solvent, and whipping the resulting material as it bubbles...



Some strains will budder better than others, and depending on certain exposure to certain solvents for certain amounts of time, you can also alter consistency...


So I'm going to say if you actually want BUDDER... like BHO budder.... you need to use Butane rather than isopropyl.



It's all about how those solvents act on our oils, as we remove them from our flowers. The end product we get is what it is...

You cant bubble butane out of ISO oil and get *budder* because there is no butane in ISO oil. Get it?
ah thank you , i understand it now. +rep
 

DabasaurusFlex710

New Member
Budder or that wax is decarboxolized oil. Yall cooking the shit out of your oil. some seem to auto budder over time depending on strain and what not but you should have nice see thru oil everytime. Its common sense your over cooking it when you have budder wax. If boiling point of butane 30.2°F and water is 212°F and then all the butane will leave your oil at room temperature or even sitting in the sun for a day or two. Wen you got decarboxolized oil you cooked out any water left in there. Its the smoothest and the best where its like a jolly rancher at room temperature and thats right before it turns into budder.Then winterize that and youll get some beautiful shatter :D
 

VladFromOG

Active Member
Budder is any cannabis extract that is > 85% THC. THC is a fluffy semi crystalline solid wax, and naturally assumes this state in any sort of reasonable purity. ISO will pull out chlorophyll and burst the cell walls from your herb, leeching the secondary oils from within, preventing this. Moreover ISO causes THC to oxidize incredibly fast, leaving nothing but goopy dark CBN and CBD laden oil, even if you are extracting from dry sift keif with no chlorophyll. This makes it impossible to get budder from herb using ISO, but if you've got some dry sift or dry ice hash (from a high THC strain like a sativah), you can usually get some good budder using limonene or butane.

For more info in the different types of hash (budder, earwax, foam, etc), and much much more info that dispells a lot of the mythology and bs regarding concentrates, see the link at the end of my sig.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Also, my thinking is, that we should be providing concentrates for folks with illnesses. That means it should be the cleanest, heathiest product possible. I enjoy a good clean dab, but only when extraction is done properly. There are too many people out there doing this improperly, using pvc, not fully purging all butane, whatever it may be. Believe it or not, some people that go to these clubs are very sick, and they need good strong clean medication. Some of these extracts can have serious negative effects on people with certain disorders. I know that BHo is the easy way to make full melt hash, but once you learn the art of making full melt bubble, it's much more rewarding, it tastes better, and its just as strong. And it also brings piece of mind when vending to clubs. You know whoever comes through and picks some up is going to have a pleasant experience and come back for more. Rather than spread negative word about your club about how the 'tane made em sick. Respect
BHO is cleaner than bubble hash because less plant matter and mold make it into the extract. Just sayin...
 
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