Best training/topping method for large trees?

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by Songbud, Feb 7, 2018.

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    Songbud

    Songbud Member

    This is my first grow. I am allowed only twelve plants so my plan was to grow monsters and try to yield as much as possible on each tree. I am growing three strains, each with their own 4 pot RDWC system under ChilLed Tech 1000w commercial grow lights. I started from seeds about four weeks ago so I think I am already a little behind with training. My question is, is there any particular training/pruning method that makes the most sense for large trees? I had planned on using double layer scrog screens. I figured I should ask before I start topping because I really, really don't want to screw this up! :wall: Thanks for taking the time.
     

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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Woa big set up for starter questions lol

    I would just look up

    Mainifolding. Make each plant have how ever many tops and then let them turn to monsters

    With manifolding you wont have to worry about a bent over top taking back a typical dominance
    Over the rest of the canopy
    Good luck nice set up
     
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    Nafydad420

    Nafydad420 Well-Known Member

    you sound like me... your first grow is larger than mine LOL good luck mate. if you want some big ole ladies. i would fim if you are going to scrog. or you could main line, as Cold is suggesting. either way will be great :)

    http://www.growweedeasy.com/manifold
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    No need to scrog with a mainline but it can help if you got soft stems
     
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    Nafydad420

    Nafydad420 Well-Known Member

    He put on some big boy pants for his first grow, aye ? lol
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Yep

    Nice setup though

    Looks good so far
     
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    Nafydad420

    Nafydad420 Well-Known Member

    very nice, im quite impressed. im going to follow this grow. if @Songbud ever responds. lol :blsmoke:
     
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    Songbud

    Songbud Member

    Thanks guys! I am just reading and googling the hell out this. I can use all the help I can get!
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Your definitely off to a good start man no worries
     
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    iPerculate

    iPerculate Well-Known Member

    I don't think SCROG would work well for you with that setup. You would have to build a massive net or an individual for each one. I agree with the mainlining, you have tons of room in there
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Just leave room to acces all plants and sites for maintenance
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Look up
    Heath tree grows

    Capns tree grows

    In there somewhere theres a shot of a fucking warehouse full of huge trees that where heavily defoliated ..
    Fucking huge
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    But i dont want to be a downer but i dont think you have the height for huge trees.

    And eventually if you try to do huge trees with your set up as is. Youll find spots where the light isnt as powerful .blah blah no even canopy blah blah uneven light spread

    You get the rest
     
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    Songbud

    Songbud Member

    I have eleven foot ceilings. The buckets are 17 inches high. Does that change anything? I essentially copied someone else's setup, and they had a screen at 6 feet off the floor and another at 7 1/2. I already bought the materials to do the screens but I can definitely be talked out of it. Is it too late to mainline 4 weeks in? And will the yield be comparable to topping/fimming with screens? Thanks again for your help and patience.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Didnt know you had 11 feet your probably good there.

    If your trying to copy another setup that works
    Id say go for it.

    Ill definitely watch :)
     
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    iPerculate

    iPerculate Well-Known Member

    Yeah 11 foot ceilings aren't shown in the picture, that's awesome.

    If you already have the stuff to do it you could put screens above them. If you mainline/manifold, there is no point of putting up a net.

    If you have the time, you could top the plants 2-4 times and put up a couple different layers of screens. What kind of materials are you using for screen?
     
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    Nafydad420

    Nafydad420 Well-Known Member

    I agree! This is what I would do, other than I would fim rather than top.
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    I would stay away from tall trees unless growing with vertical hps and multiple bulbs.
    You have some great lights there, will look forward to seeing the ChilLED lights in action as we don't see so many of them on here.
    But that said the light will still diminish the further you are from the source. To light up a 7ft plant well at the top without bleaching or burning your gona see a drastic drop off below 4ft.

    You don't have to grow tall to make the most of single plants. Top early, get 4/6/8 colas and then supper crop them to make them horizontal, keep them that way by supports or staking them ( across the branches) then allow the flower sites to grow up. Then your going to have a monster plant but with most of it at an even level receiving an even amount of light from above and thus getting roughly even sized colas and buds across the whole thing.

    You could also consider LSTing them early to create a bush, still lower profile and the penetration of your lights will be made the most of.

    To me what your planning as of now is the least economical and productive method of growing and would be a waste of such great lighting and plant count.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Agree trees take time and care.

    Just grow big bushes and keep and even canopy and go to town :)
     
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    Songbud

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    Okay, and I actually remeasured and they're 10 foot ceilings not 11. Can you recommend some sort of tutorial for what you described? I can piece it together I'm sure but if you know of something that works I would appreciate it. I want (and need) to get the absolute most out of each plant. I know enough to know that I need serious help. Haha
     
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