Best Filtering Agent to remove fats/lipids via Büchner funnel (vac assisted)

Discussion in 'Concentrates and Extracts' started by g$420, Feb 14, 2018.

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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    Title says it all..... looking for a good thread on the best filtering agents to remove fats and lipids from a suspension via Buchner. Celite, aluminum oxide, purging out the initial raw extract then running through packed chromatography column, things of the nature that come to mind that I personally have used. Wanted to see what else/best outcome others have had! I personally have enjoyed what I got with celite as well as running “1st run” raw extract though columns.

    Happy Extracting!
     
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    ShootToMaim

    ShootToMaim Well-Known Member

    Lol. Bro.....why? You know they make little paper filters that fit just so nicely in a buchner funnel right? Don't think a lot of people on rollitup are running glass packed chromatography columns. For curiosity..whats that extra 5% purity doing for you?
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    Well, assuming you have never tried meds within the 90%+ range via your ask, it is actually light years different. if you have, you didn't and were lied to :blsmoke:. There are far more ways than a chromatography column to filter, thus my question to see what the community has tried with success as simple agents in the funnel. I have had many numerous educated discussions on far deeper molecular breakdowns with members here so please don't sell this community short just b/c you aren't doing it. Filter paper #1 is usually bleached and #2 does not filter anything other than solid plant materials and up to whatever grade (micron size you select for your filter paper) particles won't fit through, thats it. Filtering agents capture unseen to the eye fats, lipids, compounds used to remove chlorophyll, solvent residues stuck to carbons, etc.. To each their own, but ill keep my exact molecular breakdown I desire, you my friend enjoy smoking fats, lipids and 20%+
    (Cause your def not touching above 80% without distilling, crystal forming, or multiple runs of filter agent/Chrom tubes) worth of worthless and potential harmful unknowns. the extra 15-20%* difference (lol @ your thought of 5% dif, thats cute) is truly worth it.
     
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    DemonTrich

    DemonTrich Well-Known Member

    I use aluminum oxide, along with my fritted disc bunchner setup.
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    Nice! I use aluminum oxide as well as a preferred agent. I recently tried it and Celite mixed, I didn't notice much variation. Also have you seen those ridiculous low micron (2-4) fritted disc buchners? Ever used one? I've own down to a 75 micron BUT I don't like to feel like I may loose good meds so i don't go any lower. Wondering how one of those would fair in the processing.
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    Nice! I use aluminum oxide as well as a preferred agent. I recently tried it and Celite mixed, I didn't notice much variation. Also have you seen those ridiculous low micron (2-4) fritted disc buchners? Ever used one? I've own down to a 75 micron BUT I don't like to feel like I may loose good meds so i don't go any lower. Wondering how one of those would fair in the processing.
     
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    KLITE

    KLITE Well-Known Member

    Man could you explain or draw a pic of that apparatus im not seeing it.
    Im gonna agree with you on the perception of an extract in respects to its purity. But im gtonna have to disagree on hitting over 80% with the described methods.
    I use a 5 micron polyester sock inline filter (got some 1 micron comin soon since im pretty sure its impossible to clog one of those filters with the amounts i extract) after the solvent sits with dry ice bath for 3/4 hours and my last extract came in at 91.8% total cannabinoids. Before i had any decent filtration and just the dry ice sleeve on the material column i would get between high 70s and low 80s.

    I admire how you do it man would love to understand it better, bear in mind im in Spain and out here were still in the dark ages when it comes to extracts. A lot of time i cracked out some shatter and ppl think its crystal meth, i suppose thats a good thing hehe if it cracks like crystals.

    On another note, whats your view on non see through oil (i.e. wax i think they call it)? Personally to me if it doesnt not appear to be like glass in all aspects i think you just fucked up an extraction and your trying to make yourself seen as an ''artist'' cause you know... i know shit you dont and never will.
     
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    ShootToMaim

    ShootToMaim Well-Known Member

    I've seen plenty of winterized Bho test out at around 90% so I don't know why you think you need a $10,000 organic chemistry lab to do this.
     
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    natureboygrower

    natureboygrower Well-Known Member

    i thought you used celite and carbon,bro?
    some ppl like running lab equipment.different strokes/different folks.hardly near 10k(unless he throwing a rotovap in his lab:bigjoint:)
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    The Celite and Carbon turned my 2nd run soxhlet extract into a wholeeeeeee new ball game BUT i def think the Celite it hit a miss on quality you get (fischer is legit/consistent i will say) so i have to stick to packing columns right now for that clear!
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member

    Pics or it never happened, this has NEVER been achieved in all the years and real testing me and an entire crew of caregivers i run with have seen NOR has any company in the dispensaries sold a claimed 90%+ 'shatter' or 'budder' or any of those wonderful butane made wonders. Winterizing removes unwanted fat coagulates and thats really it, its what gives you the dif of 70% muddy green to 75-80% clear shatter or whipped yellow/amber budders, not even all of it just what you can get to freeze on up in your 2nd solvent. I can get you pure for $1500 in equip, some could do it cheaper.
     
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    g$420

    g$420 Well-Known Member


    I got you on a pic walkthrough of one go my tride and true methods to get Pure extract, then distill it and will have chromatography steps as well to give a whirl. Will send in private message here in a bit. and man thats got me really exited to get a 2 micron fritted Buchner! Wait until we teach you to make pure THCa diamonds (its the American rage right now), it legit looks like meth dripped in terps lol. As far as the clear, its all ill personally use. I will never touch muddy or budder consistency garbage. Its can purge for 28 days for all i give a shit, its not clean b/c you just purged solvent off of a bunch of plant matter contaminants and didn't clean it and strip the fat! I like my dabs like I like my steak in theory, Lean as FUCK. I have a biz partner (not canna related) in Germany and he did tell me out there the extracts were almost that of old school hashish still (the Moroccan kief/RSO type oil blends pressed in bricks or rolled in balls).

    It sounds like i need to take the ole Columbus ship back to Spain to capitalize on a new un-tapped market for the distillates and pure crystal :bigjoint:
     
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    uniformlima

    uniformlima New Member

    Hey guys, just wondering if you use reagent or lab grade Aluminum Oxide or just commonly available sand blasting grades. I have lab grade available, but boy the sandblast grade is cheap and commonly available locally. Thanks
     
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    natureboygrower

    natureboygrower Well-Known Member

    personally,if i'm looking to make medicine,lab grade ftw.
     
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    uniformlima

    uniformlima New Member

    Chromatography grade is what I'm using, have not bought any in a while, I forgot how expensive these things can be!
     

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