Belief Without Evidence WTF?

BudDub said:

If religion is real why does it differ from one geographical region from another? Anyone that has raised a child with love will understand me when I say a child will believe anything you tell it regardless of how insane the idea may be.

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Not true. I've tried that theory. Told my little brother to stick his hand through a headboard, told him it was liquid like water, and that his hand should push right through.
He didn't believe me, but I figured he would, and that that was the only factor in whether or not he'd be able to. So I'm still not sure if it is.

Finshaggy said:

That's hilarious. What if you think it's a fuckin bear, or gorilla, or man attacking you?

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self defense i guess LOL

BudDub said:

If religion is real why does it differ from one geographical region from another? Anyone that has raised a child with love will understand me when I say a child will believe anything you tell it regardless of how insane the idea may be.

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what does this have to do with bigfoot? jk

Finshaggy said:

Not true. I've tried that theory. Told my little brother to stick his hand through a headboard, told him it was liquid like water, and that his hand should push right through.
He didn't believe me, but I figured he would, and that that was the only factor in whether or not he'd be able to. So I'm still not sure if it is.

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Well thats because your little brother had enough experience of his own to know the difference. How can someone have experience with something they can't see or feel (ie religion).

Finshaggy said:

Not true. I've tried that theory. Told my little brother to stick his hand through a headboard, told him it was liquid like water, and that his hand should push right through.
He didn't believe me, but I figured he would, and that that was the only factor in whether or not he'd be able to. So I'm still not sure if it is.

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baby bigfoots are the same way

BudDub said:

Well thats because your little brother had enough experience of his own to know the difference. How can someone have experience with something they can't see or feel (ie religion).

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But I'm just saying children won't believe "Anything no matter what."

Finshaggy said:

But I'm just saying children won't believe "Anything no matter what."

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depends on who they ran into before you did that.

as a kid i got my lil bro to eat worms in the claim that they gave him superpowers (though to admit i had to give a little speech before he believed me)

but for sure, he never believed shit like that again lol

Finshaggy said:

But I'm just saying children won't believe "Anything no matter what."

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Tell that to a four year old when he tells you all about what Santa is bringing him for christmas, or how much money he got from the tooth fairy.

Better yet tell it to the person somewhere in this forum who was raised in some bizarre ritualistic cult. Haven't you ever heard of that happening? When you do hear about it how do you separate what they believe and what the Bible teaches? There are plenty of bizarre and sometimes ritualistic stories in the Bible. What makes one taboo and another mainstream?

canniboss said:

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

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Thats a rather agnostic point of view it seems. So do you believe in any of the mainstream religions? If your answer is yes then how do you distinguish one religion from another, based on faith alone?

I watched as my wife got brainwashed by a cult so called christian church . Along with her family we couldn't convince her of any thing rational . I have a steel plate in my head from Iraq serving our country cause I believed in something . I stood up for what I believe in with my life and still will .This so called preacher was in prison fo rape and other violent crimes for almost 20 years , but he says he was saved by jesus , I want to send him to see god if god is even real . This brain washing con man is just like charles manson with power over people who are really good people that get manipulated by sickos like this guy . She has given him all of our money cause god told him she should . F all that bulloney . I have loved her for 17 years been faithfull in our marriage and a good husband . She got bit by the wacko bug with these people who will believe anything he says cause god tells him what they all need to do. This guy threatened me and tried to scare me , but anyone who s been to war in combat knows we dont scare . The only reason I let him live is because I cant raise children from the slammer.

Man, the kids you know must be retarded or something!

My 4yr old step son is not gullible like those stupid kids you are talking about.

Dumb parents = dumb kids

We educate our son with all sortz of things.

BudDub said:

Tell that to a four year old when he tells you all about what Santa is bringing him for christmas, or how much money he got from the tooth fairy.

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olylifter420 said:

Man, the kids you know must be retarded or something!

My 4yr old step son is not gullible like those stupid kids you are talking about.

Dumb parents = dumb kids

We educate our son with all sortz of things.

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Thats the point you "educate your son with sortz of things". Doesn't he take what you are telling him to be true as truth? (simple example you tell him the color blue is the color blue and he just accepts that as true).

Did you teach him about santa or the easter bunny, or the tooth fairy?

Finshaggy said:

Not true. I've tried that theory. Told my little brother to stick his hand through a headboard, told him it was liquid like water, and that his hand should push right through.
He didn't believe me, but I figured he would, and that that was the only factor in whether or not he'd be able to. So I'm still not sure if it is.

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You are comparing the joke of a big brother to the authority of parents and society. As rightly pointed out, beliefs much more rediculous than a liquid headboard are told to and believed by children as a matter of routine. Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, even the boogieman are all examples of what a child will believe when there is authority behind the teachings. The point is, while it's okay to expose your children to what ever it is you believe, it is also important to give them the tools they need to judge the truth value of all claims, which includes critical thinking and rational analysis. Religious ideas are not what threaten our youth. Certainty in religious ideas coupled with obstruction of doubt is what threatens children and impedes progress.

So when are we going to take our fiat money to the white house gates and make a pile of 6 thousand million dollars in federal reserve notes and set it on fire?

olylifter420 said:

Man, the kids you know must be retarded or something!

My 4yr old step son is not gullible like those stupid kids you are talking about.

Dumb parents = dumb kids

We educate our son with all sortz of things.

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including belief without evidence lol i feel sorry for your confuzed kids .

BudDub said:

Tell that to a four year old when he tells you all about what Santa is bringing him for christmas, or how much money he got from the tooth fairy.

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I gave you a perfectly good example of a 4-5 year old not believing something.

Solids are liquids. He didn't believe it.

And Santa is a widely lied about subject, of course kids believe it. That's a given.

BudDub said:

Better yet tell it to the person somewhere in this forum who was raised in some bizarre ritualistic cult. Haven't you ever heard of that happening? When you do hear about it how do you separate what they believe and what the Bible teaches? There are plenty of bizarre and sometimes ritualistic stories in the Bible. What makes one taboo and another mainstream?

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Ok. I NEVER DISAGREED WITH YOU.

These things CAN happen.

But they also CAN NOT happen sometimes. You're stupid to think every child is the same.

lol its hillarious people are bringing santa into this thread lol

Heisenberg said:

You are comparing the joke of a big brother to the authority of parents and society. As rightly pointed out, beliefs much more rediculous than a liquid headboard are told to and believed by children as a matter of routine. Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, even the boogieman are all examples of what a child will believe when there is authority behind the teachings. The point is, while it's okay to expose your children to what ever it is you believe, it is also important to give them the tools they need to judge the truth value of all claims, which includes critical thinking and rational analysis. Religious ideas are not what threaten our youth. Certainty in religious ideas coupled with obstruction of doubt is what threatens children and impedes progress.

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I wasn't "COMPARING" at all. I was saying that EVERY child won't believe EVERYTHING.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.