Barney's Farm - Tangerine Dream - Waterfarm!

Dayzt

Well-Known Member
Okay, it's been a few days again now so here's another picture update. Still looking good - I'm thinking the CFLs will be removed soon, as the extra warmth is lowering my RH a bit. I'm liking the new growth coming in fast at the 2nd node - at this rate I'll be able to train it soon in order to get those lower nodes to come up more. Soon I'll need to make my trip to Lowe's and buy some items to build the frame for my screen.

I haven't checked the root situation down in the rez, but I'm sure there's a few more coming through by now. Maybe by the weekend I can get some pics of the roots as well. I plan to increase the PPMs a bit this week as I top up the rez. By next weekend I'll be changing the rez out completely again and at that time I'll again bump up the PPMs - by then I hope to be at around 600-750 PPM. No deficiency signs at this point, but the leaves are appearing a bit palish so hopefully bumping up the nutes a bit will solve that. Enjoy the pics!







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Dayzt

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Pic update time!!! Yay!!!! =) :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:











I did a complete rez change this evening and after everything was completed...

5.5 pH
613 PPM


I'm really trying to keep this girl good and compact. I think keeping the floro lights nice and close below the big light as well, is helping the nodes develop nice and close together. The secondary growth is looking good too, and as soon as I can tilt her over I'll start training her to get the other tops going - then it's to the hardware store to get some supplies to build my screen.

Cheers everyone - thanks for checking out my progress! :leaf:

Notes:

I used 1 tsp of FNB per gallon of RO water (21ppm, 5.7 pH). Two gallons of water. The goal was to get the ppm's up to around 600 which is looking about right - we'll see how it tests after a day.
 

dishinit

Active Member
Pic update time!!! Yay!!!! =) :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:











I did a complete rez change this evening and after everything was completed...

5.5 pH
613 PPM


I'm really trying to keep this girl good and compact. I think keeping the floro lights nice and close below the big light as well, is helping the nodes develop nice and close together. The secondary growth is looking good too, and as soon as I can tilt her over I'll start training her to get the other tops going - then it's to the hardware store to get some supplies to build my screen.

Cheers everyone - thanks for checking out my progress! :leaf:
Verrrrrry Nice.....................
Verrrrrry Nice.....................
I need to check back in more often.............Your plant is beautiful.
 

Dayzt

Well-Known Member
Here we are today at:

6.7 pH
571 ppm


She looks like she's got enough food for now, the ppm's came down some since the water-change which is good since I think I increased it a bit more all at once than I should have. I'll top up the rez during this next week with pH'd RO water, and monitor the ppm's. I doubt I'll need to add more until the next rez change, but we'll see how much she drinks at this point. You can tell be the pics that she's starting to take off a bit more now... really nice and green looking still. The new growth has some curling up of the leaf edges - I think it from having the floros so close there for awhile. I've removed the floros now completely, and lowered the 400w down as much as I can, considering the extra heat. I've also pointed my intake ducting up and towards the plant a bit to keep things fresh and cool from below. There's some great branching starting, as the nodes have kept nice and short up to this point. I'm just trying to figure out when to start bending this gal over and get her to start spreading out.

Enjoy the pics! :leaf:

















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Dayzt

Well-Known Member
I gave her some light 'foliar' spray today - she didn't appear to mind, but now she's a bit 'droopier' than before so I'm going to hold off on more foliar spray until she's a bit bigger. =) It looks as though i'll need to try the 'wet towel method' here soon so I can bring up the RH levels in the tent. It's a bit dryer than I'd like - although the plant is still looking nice and green, adding more moisture will help it breath better.
 

Dayzt

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I just used some regular RO water for the foliar spray - just wanted to help out a bit since my RH is a bit low right now.

I topped off the rez this evening, using up the remainder of my nute mix from the last complete change out. Did a test afterwards:

6.7 pH
575 ppm


This girl is really starting to take off now - and still keeping some nice tight nodes. I bent her over this evening but didn't actually tie her down yet. She's really flexible right now, and I noticed the stem felt slightly hollow as I bent her. I put a small weight on her to try and keep it bent over longer - we'll see how she responds by tomorrow. There's 4-6 nice tops already showing in her lower nodes, so it looks like things will really start getting bushy now! I'm guessing this weekend I'll be buying material to build my screen....can't wait! I'll put some pics up later this week - stay tuned! :leaf:

Note: I've solved the issue with the leaves edges curling - removing the close floros and lowering the big light seems to have completely flattened out the leaf edges!
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
Take the goddamn foil off the top of the buckets. Your not supposed to have light hitting your stomata.
If your trying to cover your hydroton from getting algae, use black poly or wood or something non-reflective.
 

Dayzt

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Take the goddamn foil off the top of the buckets. Your not supposed to have light hitting your stomata.
If your trying to cover your hydroton from getting algae, use black poly or wood or something non-reflective.
I've got it turned with the reflective side down - however I do agree with you regarding light hitting the bottoms of the leaves... I took the foil off after taking those last pictures actually, and I'm not sure if it will go back on or not - I've been following another grow that used it throughout the grow without any issues, so we'll see. Thanks for the tip! I did notice some slight greenish buildup on the drip-tube this evening, but I'm not too worried - just need to keep an eye on it.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I've got it turned with the reflective side down - however I do agree with you regarding light hitting the bottoms of the leaves... I took the foil off after taking those last pictures actually, and I'm not sure if it will go back on or not - I've been following another grow that used it throughout the grow without any issues, so we'll see. Thanks for the tip! I did notice some slight greenish buildup on the drip-tube this evening, but I'm not too worried - just need to keep an eye on it.
Sure, it's not big enough of a problem that it will kill you plants, but why play around with something so easy to avoid. Idk sorry..pet peeve.
 

dishinit

Active Member
I've got it turned with the reflective side down - however I do agree with you regarding light hitting the bottoms of the leaves... I took the foil off after taking those last pictures actually, and I'm not sure if it will go back on or not - I've been following another grow that used it throughout the grow without any issues, so we'll see. Thanks for the tip! I did notice some slight greenish buildup on the drip-tube this evening, but I'm not too worried - just need to keep an eye on it.
OK, this light hitting the bottom of the leaves being a bad thing is news to me..............no surprise, as I'm often late to the party.
Is there a link or URL you can direct me to with more info on this?
I also use foil (duller side up) on my Water farm to cut down splash on new plants & aid in directing nute flow to plant as it it starts to take off. And I remove it when plant grows larger and splash, excess evaporation, is no longer a concern. Growth is so rapid, I don't see it as impeding the plant in any way.........but what do I know?
 

Dayzt

Well-Known Member
OK, this light hitting the bottom of the leaves being a bad thing is news to me..............no surprise, as I'm often late to the party.
Is there a link or URL you can direct me to with more info on this?
I also use foil (duller side up) on my Water farm to cut down splash on new plants & aid in directing nute flow to plant as it it starts to take off. And I remove it when plant grows larger and splash, excess evaporation, is no longer a concern. Growth is so rapid, I don't see it as impeding the plant in any way.........but what do I know?
I believe that logically the plants' leaves use light on the surface (ala large solar panels) - the bottom of your leaves don't 'naturally' received direct light (such as what may be refelected back up off of the foil. (Correct me if i'm wrong Beans...) Foliar spray applied to the bottoms of the leaves is beneficial however... The stomata (like pores in your skin) on the leaves bottoms absorb moisture but don't require light, and it excess, it may be detrimental to the plant. I noticed early on that the small tender leaves were twisting a bit - this may be due to this mis-directed light... but other than that, she's looking realy green and healthy still, so no worries. I'm going to keep the foil off of the top for a while and see how the drip-ring does - if I get excessive salt build-up or algae, I'll have to either put the foil back on again (the plant is big enough now not to be effected much by it) or find something else like Beans mentioned, to cover at least the drip-ring. I've got a larger sized pump running instead of using the one that came with the kit, so I've got plenty of pressure for drip-action - no worries there. I'm also taking the drip-ring off every few weeks to clean it good to avoid clogging. :leaf:
 

dishinit

Active Member
I found some really interesting info today on this site regarding the effect of music (certain pitches and tones) on plant growth. Some of the research and history explained in the below thread is very, very interesting - enough so that I may need to give this a try! I encourage everyone to give this thread a read-thru - quite intriguing!!

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/294405-influence-music-plants.html
Thanks for the informative comeback. My leaf twisting has generally been due to slightly over-nuting. And I am new to the WF system, so I will pay closer attention when using foil.
As for music, I often/sometimes play Shakuhachi to my plants, I like it, even if they don't, but they seem to do OK.
I'll be sure to read the link.
 

dishinit

Active Member
So what type, or genre, of music do they suggest??
Here's a quote from the link;
Plants Prefer Classical Music...
A possible explanation for plants reacting positively to classical music and not to heavy metal, is that purer tones are used in classical music, while heavy metal is full of guitar effects such as distortion and overdrive which we certainly cannot consider as pure tones!

The link is short and concise, worth a quick read.
Apparently plants resonate with bird song....Hopefully my squeaks & squawks on my Shakuhachi are well received, as I love to play my morning meditations to the birds, and have them sing back to me. Sometimes it gets quite chaotic, but fun though.
Will it help my plants? Probably not, but it does help me practice, something I need a lot of ................................................................ I think my dog & plants would agree.
 
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