Ayahuasca

So I consider myself fairly experienced in psychedelics. Way more than most people, way less then a lot of them. I understand good an bad trips and all. Does this mean that aya would still be frightening? I know its not a party thing, but what is the potential for enjoying yourself? Once in "hell" do you know your intoxicated or are you that far gone? Thought I was dead once, serious fucked up look inside myself thats for sure, not hell though, just a FAT warning! I've always been curious about the more "potent" substances yet slightly unsure. Trusting the company has a lot to do with it and I don't want to go there without some sort of sitter!

I like tripping with people I'm close with and by myself. Both have nice elements. Ultimately it comes down to being at ease. I've been tripping long enough that I can feel at ease even in unfamiliar public places. I used to love tripping in school when I was in high school. A slight discomfort with the setting can make a trip far more intense.

I like the comfort and safety of home. I like the beauty of being out in nature and part of it all. I like going to a concert of festival with a lot of other tripping people because it is a strange comfort being that far out there yet still no where near the most absurd thing happening! And some other sets and setting also!

Don't do aya without an experienced sitter, whatever you decide. It isn't safe. Your mind will be in one dimension while your body will be in another. Your sitter should be completely sober also, no aya.

I prefer being on a low dose of something when sitting. Having a foot in the doors of perception makes communication better in my experience.

Not to mention, non trippin people kinda suck to be around.

Bigtacofarmer said:

So I consider myself fairly experienced in psychedelics. Way more than most people, way less then a lot of them. I understand good an bad trips and all. Does this mean that aya would still be frightening?

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Hmm. Did you every FULLY dissociate? And not even know it? Did you ever have a dream within a dream, wake up, think you are awake, and you are still dreaming? So now add a tripping mindset to that, and the possibility that your mind can create while dreaming (just how bad are your nightmares, just how good are your fantasies) multiply it a gabillion times, and then it starts to scratch the surface.

But to start off with, did you ever wake up from sleep and not know who you were, or what you were, and found yourself hurtling through the grand cosmos? Would that terrify you? Would the exhilarate you? How would you react as you start to plummet to the hot sun (somebody turned the light on in the room, and you have no idea what the fuck happened, but you are being sucked into a fireball).

Good time or bad?

What if your religious upbringing had a lot of demons waiting to jump out? Anything, and beyond anything you could ever imagine is probable.

So really, only you can judge.

Alot like I expected to hear. I'm alway afraid the the worst moment will last forever (or feel like it). Funny you bring up religious upbringing, that fucks with me a little and I alway try to separate what I have done to myself, what the substance is showing me and what my parents have conditioned me to think. By fully disociate do you mean no longer be aware your tripping and just have that reality? Done that a few times. So if you grow up in a more accepting culture and you get to know that "space" is it possible to have a less shocking experience, or does it always retain its full power. I know on LSD I have pretty much gotten used to your average 300 mic or less trip and have no problem eating an eight of cubes and funtioning sorta alright. I can't seem to blast off all the way on DMT, but it makes it like I'm tripping really hard for about 10 minutes, but I can still function, sorta. Only did K on LSD but that was beautiful. I don't like going much past 500 mics or so on L because thats where I figure I have a hard time splitting religious and recreational experiences, not that I don't like being rung out but I don't think your supposed to be kicking in back door to "that place" just randomly while having a good time. Unfortunatly most of my closest loved ones just aren't the baby sitting type, most don't even trip at all. I know a lot of kids from places more familiar with all this but I never feel right about it when the times arise. I'm sure the time will show it self when its right.

Bigtacofarmer said:

By fully disociate do you mean no longer be aware your tripping and just have that reality? Done that a few times. So if you grow up in a more accepting culture and you get to know that "space" is it possible to have a less shocking experience, or does it always retain its full power.

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Yes. I've "woken" up in mickey mouse sorcerers apprentice mode, except when I waved my magic wand the galaxies would dance for me. It took about 2 minutes for me to realize I had done a hit of DMT. I was quite annoyed when the real worlds materialized around me. Others times into was into the green mechanical matrix fills with foreign beings. Once time it was a life passing before my eyes, though I was dead, but the life movie includes alternative universes of all the decisions that i didn't make. Lots and lots of splits worlds for me to review my different lives.

I've also been under attack, fireworks and cannons blowing up over my head, I dove for cover, hit my head on the sofa leg, crawled to the bathroom, and puked my guts up. I've gotten TOO into movies, lived a few action scenes. When you go deep at that moment, you can really program yourself for a hell of a jump.

You need to up your DMT dosage or smoking style.

Is there such thing as a low ayahuasca dose? It seems that wherever I look online there is just one persons way of doing it or another persons way of doing it, never a few ways from the same person depending on how much trippin they wanna do......like if I did 1.5g of shrooms in tea I could kinda rush a bit and I could walk around the forest enjoying breathing and staring at animals. But 3g and I would space out completely.
So is there a low dose of ayahuasca tea that could give a brief insight into that world, but not go too far? Or is it kinda like a cliff, where its nothing or everything?

I got some extracts, the traditional ayahuasca and the syrian rue/ mimosa ones too. But it wasn't till afterwards when I started hearing about how much more intense it is that shrooms. If I did a ritual in the woods, could it be more positive? I thought ayahuasca brought love?