Autoflowers sick in M3 organic help

Discussion in 'Marijuana Plant Problems' started by Bowagart420, Mar 10, 2018.

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    Blitz35

    Blitz35 Well-Known Member

    lol..I check ph and ppm of runoff ;) Happy growing dude!
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    Yeah good on ya!
    In soil????
    I bet you have hot spots all over the shop.
    Runoff gives you an average at best.
     
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    Blitz35

    Blitz35 Well-Known Member

    im sure you think that lol..it's the exacxt same opinion you have on every post you reply to:) Again, happy growing..i don't have to explain myself...I do plenty of that in class lol..in my 2nd year of my masters in plant sciences..i do plenty of explaining weekly lol:) Happy growing..my message was to the OP..not to you ;) Keep testing your runoff and checking ppm's and ph of that..whatever works, keep at it.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    And what do you think all that lime and guano does to the bottom over time? If you dont water until runoff every time?
    90% of all growers problems is overfeeding. Just how it is.
    Stop giving shit advice thats making you contradict yourself.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    Maybe read a book about gardening all types of plants?
    Not just pot.
    Peace
     
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    Blitz35

    Blitz35 Well-Known Member

    thank you for the advice..i am a newbie LOL. Keep giving your regurgitated advice to everyone and every post..do I say anything? Its other's lesson to learn. Ppm..runoff..ph, runoff..check, adjust lol. Pointless and saying nothing but the same thing over and over with nothing to back it up with. Now you mention guano? Where in his post does the OP mention using guano or lime for that matter lol..you're inventing things to fit your agenda lol.,.on that note..im unsubscribed..i don't have time to deal with youtube educated growers:) Have fun..keep checking that runoff LOL..take care dude!
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    You are a TROLL that gives SHIT advice!
    Where would you start in a 1000 plant garden?
    1 plant or a thousand process is the same

    1. Check ph and ppm
    2. Check for pests and disease
    3. Check enviroment.

    What is wrong with that advice?
    What would you do differently?

    Take it easy
     
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    Budzbuddha

    Budzbuddha Well-Known Member

    I do autos ... So this my 2ยข

    Autos WILL move to the end whether you correct or not.
    It is already well into flower , AND WILL NOT reset. No matter what you do.

    Once it becomes stressed , whether feed , water or anything it becomes less and less correctable. Autos are plug and play ...
    It is locked out ... Purp stems can be from a host of issues ... Nitrogen , slow P uptake , etc. Fade IS gonna happen to as it moves into later weeks - completely normal .

    Your plant is PULLING what it needs from the fans right now.

    Let her go dry .... Mix a light bloom mix ( low nitro ) then water in.
    PH at 6.5
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    I hear you. But what if the pots all caked up from calcium and the roots cant breath?
    That plant doesnt look like its been getting much oxygen at all!
    OP asked what his problem was man.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    We're here to try and answer his questions.
     
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    Budzbuddha

    Budzbuddha Well-Known Member

    I am afraid at this point OP SHOULD just ride it out as best he can.

    The buds will STAY as is ... There will not be a magical explosion in growth.
    The plants internal clock is fixed , say you are using a weeks time to correct , that means that week of NORMAL GROWING is now lost and is not recoverable , that is why at this point it will not garner much results. If this was an earlier issue , maybe some quick work would gave help. Big problems during flower ( especially autos ) crashes the yield.

    Once it is all said and done , there will not be that great.

    Nothing can help that . For the OP .... Start another pair and consider this a learning experience.

    If using same mix again ... CUT it with a mild mix ....
    Do 50/50 blend at bottom 1/3 of container , top rest with mild mix.
    Once plant matures it will be old enough to utilize the more PRECHARGED base .
    Forget flushing with this style of soil layering , PH 6.5 ( I use tap ) - get pen . It can be a water only grow if you stay the course into flower. By the time medium begins to tap out , you can introduce
    ONLY BLOOM nutes to ride out the later weeks.

    Constantly flushing to check runoff is ridiculous , as you CONSTANTLY keep the roots too wet and suffocated. Salt buildup is the only reason to " consider " a flush , and that is from over nutes. I feed ONCE a week , not every other day .
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    Still.
    All we need to do is answer his question!
    And give advice on how to fix it. Thats all.
    Not tell OP what they should have done.
    Tell them what they DID.
    Maybe im wrong in diagnosis. But we have to give OP straight advice.
    If i had thousands of dollars worth of plants and listened to most advice given, id wanna kill some cunt.
    We can only guide them.We cant tell them. What if our advice is wrong, and its all on us?
    We gotta be real guys.
     
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    Budzbuddha

    Budzbuddha Well-Known Member

    I already said it .... He needs to ride it out this late into flower.
    There is no correction that will help ... Let it dry , water a light bloom , harvest at end.
    Start over.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    Hows adding more fertilizer gonna fix his issue? We dont know exactly what it is!
    We cant treat OPs plants like they're ours. Thats so fucking disrespectful.
    Sorry man.
     
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    Blitz35

    Blitz35 Well-Known Member

    I dont know why you`re making this personal lol..you do whatever works for you..i see many of your comments, and some, not all, is not completely accurate, i dont move in, i dont correct you..i myself still dont know everything and this is all i do with regards to plant biology..and yes..plants...not exclusively marijuana! I will be writing my thesis on this in about 4 years, so i focus a bit more on this aspect, but in the end, most plants are plants and more importantly..my focus is on nutrient behavior within the medium itself..the interactions between them, how plants feed and the likes. No matter what plant you grow..plants feed on the elements the same way and the elements have the same purpose within the plant from one to the other. What it produces (flowers into) is the plants genetic signature, but they all behave and react the same way to nutrients. Like humans, any human takes a sip of potassium cyanide..and you die, doesn`t matter what your genetic predisposition is. You can call me what you wish..im not here to argue with other growers...i always listen to experience, im only here to help people that usually come here to a forum as a last resort to get help and i offer my knowledge where it applies. I usually have an input if i see someone is offered bad advice..or if a person has not received any help yet...you can believe as you wish...my advice if unsure will be mentioned in my reply..if i believe im right..then yes..i will argue my point and make it understood why i believe so. If someone debates it...in the end...something can be learnt by the readers...it`s all in the name of education. When starting out, people scroll many forums to find an answer to their issue...and i hope..with my contributions, that when they stumble across a thread that resembles their issues, i can help them fix it. If i can`t or unsure..i make it clear..im not here to take control of anyone`s plants..the only way one learns is having gone through hurdles! I don`t know what your issue is with me, you`re making this about you more than anything...my advice is shit?..please point out where my advice was shit..and show me something that you gave detailed response to and helped with..other than..'check ph, adjust...check ppm, adjust..good luck...tim'. You seem to base your answers on your statistics rather than the problem at hand..you automatically assume that said poster falls into your 'likely did this' list, and you give the same comment without actually seeing or reading what's really maybe going on. That's my view of your postings..im not sure where you can say im a troll lol. Im not here for my own gratification which it seems you may be..im only here to help growers, and my advice is sound unless i state otherwise and i do challenge you to show me where i gave "shit" advice as you put it??? Back your words up...you can't accuse without proof. I wish you ther best in growing..im not here for you as obviously you are an elite grower..im just here to help those starting out.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    I can tell by your huge post, you're the one taking it personally.
    You're so vain you probably think this threads about you.
    Just chill the fuck out a little.
    Smoke a bong or something.
    and take it easy
     
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    Budzbuddha

    Budzbuddha Well-Known Member

    Let's cut thru the shit ..... OP if you are interested in help .... PM ME DIRECT.

    Now THAT .... Is the best help

    Peace ... Time to fire up a cone.
     
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    Bowagart420

    Bowagart420 Member

    I appreciate all the information guys I think budz is right I need to just ride it out let them do what they're going to do and start a new batch. I did have problems when they were seedlings and set them back no telling how long.
     
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    Tim1987

    Tim1987 Well-Known Member

    I agree dude. But if you have a build up, underwatering or overwatering, is going to make it worse. I promise you.
    Especially if you add fertilizer.
    If you're gonna ride it out, i highly recommend not fertilizing at all. Honestly.
    You're gonna make your burn worse.
    That aint Nitrogen deficiency. Its toxicity.
    Good luck op. I do hope they help you.
     
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    Bowagart420

    Bowagart420 Member

    No I agree with you bro I think all of you have a good point I think I did definitely over water them I think that it is toxicity don't know what else could cause the leaves to turn so quick overnight like that are you always supposed to have run off when you water? I also think the other guy is right as well I should probably just ride it out see what happens I'm going to go ahead and start germinating new ones now. This is a tough nut to crack but it won't beat me!

    Third time's a charm!!!
     
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