Autoflower wont flower, day 58 still veg, Kalaminoff Auto

superdanknug

Active Member
Been awhile since i have been on here! I have "All-in-Medicinal's-Kalaminoff's Automatic" growing and its pretty fucking big right now so its either taking its sweet fucking time or its not the auto version. shes in a 3gal with red solo x-plant within soil. I just have a few questions! Why is she still vegging at day 58? She showed a few of her pistils at about week 4. Shes also suppose to veg for 15 days then switch to flower from what ive read. just because its vegging so long ive switched lights to 12/12 to see if she'll go into flower. Suggestions are always great!
Soil is 50% FFOF 50% perlite
temp 65-78 throughout day and night cycle
3 gal smart pot
using fox farm nut trio every other feed started at week 3 with BB and GB, RO water with added calmg and ph'd to 6.5
Lights- Lighthouse Hydro: Blackstar LED 135w Flower w/ 90wHO LED Veg
Pics~
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sativa indica pits

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I would not feed her till she asks for it. All autos are different, i love how all the seed banks say 65 day flower, 356 grms. per sq. meter. lol Thats a joke. Every auto out of the 300+ ive grown is always different, taller, shorter ,45 days finished, 110 days finished even with in the same strain with seeds from the same bud. It really takes a truly stable set of genetics to make auto's that are stable and grow alike. Im doing about 35 autos from my own cross, only like 5 of them are exactly like their sisters, the other 30 are all different heights, sizes, smells, crystal content and so on and they all came from the same bud, same male and same growing area.

I would raise the temps a bit to about 75-80, autos like it warm, and dont need a lot of nutes. If there is an abundance of fert it may be hard for that strain to flower??
 

Slipon

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well my suggestion would have been, switching to 12/12 to see if you got some Reg. seed`s by mistake, sound`s weird ? 58 days, mine began around day 25
 

Ckma

Member
first things first your showing issues
secondly not all autos are true autos if you veg with 24/0 some will nvr flower. some will flower at 20/4 and some will flower at 18/6 which is what people use for vegging so they never notice the difference. There are a lot of true autos as well that will flower in 24/0. Longest ive seen is 104day veg on super auto. so if you have one of those it could require more vegging. Now if for some reason you need this to flower now slowly cut down the light cycle every 3-4 days from your veg cycle until you seeit starting to flower. A autoflower is constantly converting bulking hormone into florigen as the plant becomes bigger it eventually reaches a point where florigen production out paces bulking hormone production. This is basically the plants canopy at 45% of plant mass while the underplant is shaded making higher amounts of flowering hormone. So by cutting back the lights slowly you will find the trigger time where florigen production outpaces, but at 12/12 you are severely reducing your yield.
 

dannyboy602

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its mb a bad seed. so much goes into genetic development but that development goes against the plants natural morphology. chalk it up and try again. and flip it like slipon suggested. good luck. mb you'll get something really different, then you can describe it and call it whatever you want.
 

tekdc911

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i would start with cal/mag if your not feeding it already
and then push some higher numbers of P and K
i had a himalaya blue diesel that vegg'd for 10 weeks didnt know it was suffering from a P and K def until the leaves started looking about like yours
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCoQFjAA&url=http://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/650317-hbd-seems-feeling-blue.html&ei=3GK4Uu2ZBYikyQHh_4CIBA&usg=AFQjCNGDo17ZX3gwGtODALuWaxnKr2QvWQ&sig2=JSD5oxERB3mMPN8YI_ndXA&bvm=bv.58187178,d.aWc

there is some pics of the plant im talking about if you notice the leaves look very similar
and i believe that a K def delays flowering and in major cases delays growth
 

superdanknug

Active Member
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE FEEDBACK! im going 12/12 for 2 weeks to see how she reacts, ill bump up the heat a tad bit also! as far as cal-mg i do use it every feed at about 180ppm per gal, and as far as nutes i only use 1/4 of the rec dose as far as GB and TB go as for the micro nutes i use about 1/2 str, last feed was RO cal-mg'd and phd, would giving her about 1/4 TB rec dose be bad for her? as far as nutes go she hasnt really had true burning from the GB feeds and perks right up. I shall not give up on her yet, more info is superfantastic and i will keep an update as a week or 2 passes.
 

superdanknug

Active Member
I feel just a little retarded now...... i looked back in my notes and i used about 90% perlite and 10% FFOF, i must have been lit up like a christmas tree and decided to experiment, so im giving her a dose of TB which lowered my ph like a whore but finally got it up to 6.5, whatever happens to this baby is now up to her. ill post pics in a week to see if she gets any better, i also changed lights back to 18/6 as i had them on 12/12 for a day or so.
:peace:
 

CODY_BR

Member
I feel just a little retarded now...... i looked back in my notes and i used about 90% perlite and 10% FFOF, i must have been lit up like a christmas tree and decided to experiment, so im giving her a dose of TB which lowered my ph like a whore but finally got it up to 6.5, whatever happens to this baby is now up to her. ill post pics in a week to see if she gets any better, i also changed lights back to 18/6 as i had them on 12/12 for a day or so.
:peace:

Do you remember how this grow turned out? I'm having similar issues with an auto not wanting to flower
 

growslut

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Do you remember how this grow turned out? I'm having similar issues with an auto not wanting to flower
I've had some auto flowers not auto. Think they vegged for 80ish days, and at that point I flipped to 12/12 and kept them there until they finished flower. Yield was similar to a typical plant flowering at 12/12

If you are having troubles you might want to think about adjusting the light schedule to 12/12 and forcing it to flower
 
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