Auto project collaboration, anyone?

elkamino

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I'm glad AK's legalized adult use, but watching all the bullshit at the assembly and hearing what's coming out of Walker's mouth I don't trust our "leaders" to respect the peoples' will, or their ability to carry it out as we intend. So to gird against the Reefer Madness types I believe in the "Overgrow" philosophy, an idea that we if we just get enough damn people growing their own weed then the war against it will become futile if not lost, even if the next prez is Romney or Christie.

Obviously our climate makes this more difficult here than in Cali, but autos make it possible. They're not perfect but they can be good enough. So to do one small part I've an idea to get auto seeds in as many Alaska gardens as will have them: for free, with instruction, and without any kind of bullshit tax or municipal oversight. In other words, FOR THE PEOPLE, used in-house for insomnia, escape, clarity, pain relief, giggles, spiritual connection, whatever. Use it for whatever purpose, but grown and used outside of any commercial, governmental or heirarchal system.

Now I'm all about commercial operations, and people making a solid living selling top tier ganja to people who don't grow. But anyone who grows tomatoes outside in AK can also grow a few auto plants to satisfy much of their yearly smoke needs... or at least have a bunch of joints to hand out freely at Salmonstock, Kenai dipnetting or wherever you want next year... for almost no cost.

This is a long-term plan, seeds will likely not be ready to run til April 2016, although maybe just in time for a second run this summer. We'll see.

But to get it started, I've got 14 auto seeds I plan on crossing this spring, and three adults on three properties that want to grow them. So for this project we'll be more than legal. We'll crack early April, with the hope of creating pollen off of at least 2 of them (via colodial silver) and crossing that pollen with all of the strains, hopefully creating thousands of seeds. These seeds will then be shared freely with other Alaskans who want to grow their 3 or 6 or 24 plants, under the midnight sun. If all goes as planned I hope to post a grow journal showing how any Alaskan can harvest 2 runs of autos annually, legally, and I can just give the damn seeds away to any adult who wants them via Craigslist or wherever.

The first round will be started inexpensively under flourescents this spring before hardening off and finishing in a greenhouse under the AK summer sun. The second run will be the same, or if possible start-to-finish under the sun, we'll see how the weather cooperates. I plan to run organic supersoil with minimal nute additions but we'll see how that goes too.

This is not a complex breeding project; its pollen chucking that will hopefully yield a few decent variations. With decent genetics I believe most crosses will be decent, although some may be duds (kief'd) and others might be straight up dank. Maybe I'll even find something extraordinary. But all will be fem, and autoflowering. We'll see what the gene gods offer, and we'll have seeds of the best if we find winners. Pollination will be limited to a branch/3 per plant, and all (non-ruderalis pheno) plants will be finished and smoked, so we know which seeds' parents we like best.

Here's what I have to start, all of them Autofem:
1x Sweet Seeds Dark Devil
1x Sweet Seeds Jack 47
1x Sweet Seeds Black Cream
2x Emerald Triangle Seeds Lemon Haze
3x Female Seeds Critical
1x Strainhunters Damnesia
5x Kenai Kush auto (ETS Headlights Kush x Sensi Skunk#1)

The Sweet Seeds are Attitude freebies. The ETS, FS and Strainhunters are leftovers from last year's failed guerilla project. The Kenai Kush is a cross between my 2 best autos last year- a Sensi Seeds Skunk #1 Auto with a Emerald Triangle Seeds Headlights Kush auto. Here's some pix of the Skunk, it gave me more than 5 oz, 110 days seed to chop:

Auto Skunk#1D.jpg AUTOSkunk#1.jpg AutoSkunk#1b.jpg AUTOSkunk#1c.jpg :

Yes its an auto but I took a cutting off the Skunk, rooted it, sprayed it with colloidal silver til it produced balls and pollinated a few pre-flowers. 10 turned into what look like viable seeds. I gave 5 away and kept 5. This year my hope is to make hundreds or thousands of seeds to share with other Alaskans, for free, from these plants. If anyone else wants in- sharing pollen, or using mine on their autos- LET'S DO IT. Let's create as many auto seed strains as possible, find what works best in AK and then share them with whoever will put them in the ground... and keep the ganja flowing! :bigjoint:

I expect that this thread could go dormant for a while as I won't be working on this for a few months. But I wanted to get the idea out there, so any Alaskan outdoor auto growers could start thinking about ways to make the experiment better or bigger.

So post here if you've ideas, I'd love to get on with OVERGROWING...
 

nvhak49

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Awesome idea dude I like it a lot. I have like 6 or so auto seeds not sure what strains at the moment but I plan on growing at least three this summer start mid April inside than finish them outside. Did you too or fim that one you have picture of? I've wanted to do that but I've read from a number of places not too Cuz the veg time on autos are so short. Never thought of breeding some autos but I'd be down to grow some. I have T mist spray can't think of the name of it haven't tried it yet but I want too so I might with those and see how it goes. But I'd be down to trade pollen or whatever to make some cool strains to grow and hand out free seeds to anyone who wants them. I'll post the strains once I get home and look at em. I hope we have lots of bright sun this summer.
 
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elkamino

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Awesome idea dude I like it a lot. I have like 6 or so auto seeds not sure what strains at the moment but I plan on growing at least three this summer start mid April inside than finish them outside. Did you too or fim that one you have picture of? I've wanted to do that but I've read from a number of places not too Cuz the veg time on autos are so short. Never thought of breeding some autos but I'd be down to grow some. I have T mist spray can't think of the name of it haven't tried it yet but I want too so I might with those and see how it goes. But I'd be down to trade pollen or whatever to make some cool strains to grow and hand out free seeds to anyone who wants them. I'll post the strains once I get home and look at em. I hope we have lots of bright sun this summer.
I didn't FIM, just topped it. Yield wasn't too important I just wanted seeds for a guerilla grow that didn't work out. But the skunk got big anyway. Generally you're right, don't top autos if you want yield. But seed runs are different.

Doesn't really matter what your strains are, long as they're autos. Let's pollinate a nug or 2 with some fem pollen late May, smoke the parents in July and then plant/share the best seeds from the best buds... and repeat.
 

FrozenChozen

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just got some "AK Auto" from midweeksong.... 2 fems... I don't usually play the Auto game, but I'm in brotha! I think it should be around march/april when we pop...
 

nvhak49

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Noob question. Since you don't have to switch light schedule with autos to make them flower. To make female pollen when do you start spraying them with CS or Tmist to make female pollen to grow fem seeds? I know on regular seeds you spray them a week before you flip to 12/12.
 

elkamino

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just got some "AK Auto" from midweeksong.... 2 fems... I don't usually play the Auto game, but I'm in brotha! I think it should be around march/april when we pop...
Excellent! You must've ordered from MWS. I've been interested in their beans. Are those autos freebies? If so what beans did you score? Glad you're in, the more the merrier as pollen's cheap and auto genetics are apparently changing fast.

While you're here, did you get your extra flower space figured out? Its almost Feb 24 and I'll have something for you then if you're interested...

Noob question. Since you don't have to switch light schedule with autos to make them flower. To make female pollen when do you start spraying them with CS or Tmist to make female pollen to grow fem seeds? I know on regular seeds you spray them a week before you flip to 12/12.
I'm no expert but probably anytime after preflowers arrive. I've CS'd an autoflower once and I didn't start spraying til I saw pistils. I got PLENTY of pollen but was not very good at collecting/preserving it.
 

FrozenChozen

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They sent me some freebies for the 6th party cup competition... I'm runnin it and am not getting anything out of it... Them and Provision seeds have been very kind to me... Provision has been VERY kind to me.... They're making a shirt especially for me as well!
side note from MWS I got
-White Widow
-jack la mota
-AK auto
so far from Provision
-Deep purple Kush
and -Lucky 7
Yes brotha, I got extra space,
Do you? I got some killer '96 White Widow and My OMG if you're interested..... The clone tub is wayyy too full now!
I'll be sure to save some of this gorgeous BHO I made too....;-)
 

elkamino

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Hey sorry everyone I got busy with other stuff and the auto project took a backburner. I'm way scaled back now and late but still expect to have some male auto pollen (Apollo-13 X Ruderalis) by August and probably July. If all goes as planned I'll have a bunch and will gladly give auto pollen to anyone in ANC free then or later. :joint:

If I get them to germ I will be growing (and crossing the A13 w/) these autoflowers:
Sweet Seeds Jack 47
Sweet Seeds Black Cream
HSO Blue Dream
HSO Dez Haze

I'll post here with how it goes. AK autogrowers feel free to do the same.
 

nvhak49

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Sweet the Tiresias spray I bought over a year ago still work, I started spraying my blue mystic auto when she first started showing her parts and I sprayed for 14 days and totally forgot that I did and she has grown some pollen sacs, I just now noticed today when I was watering her, pretty stoked, once they open up I'll shake them in a bag to collet the pollen than put it on a few branches, never done this before so I'm excited haha. How long does it take for the seeds to mature??
 

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elkamino

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Sweet the Tiresias spray I bought over a year ago still work, I started spraying my blue mystic auto when she first started showing her parts and I sprayed for 14 days and totally forgot that I did and she has grown some pollen sacs, I just now noticed today when I was watering her, pretty stoked, once they open up I'll shake them in a bag to collet the pollen than put it on a few branches, never done this before so I'm excited haha. How long does it take for the seeds to mature??
Nice job!:clap::clap::clap:

Hope those drop some pollen for you. :bigjoint:

Seeds mostly take 3-4 weeks, sometimes a bit more. Once they start turning from green to dark they're good to go but nothing wrong with leaving them on the plant longer to be sure you're not cutting before they're matured.
 

nvhak49

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Nice job!:clap::clap::clap:

Hope those drop some pollen for you. :bigjoint:

Seeds mostly take 3-4 weeks, sometimes a bit more. Once they start turning from green to dark they're good to go but nothing wrong with leaving them on the plant longer to be sure you're not cutting before they're matured.
Thanks man, oh ok cool hopefully she has a long enough life to produce some seeds of not I'll save the pollen.
 

elkamino

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Thanks man, oh ok cool hopefully she has a long enough life to produce some seeds of not I'll save the pollen.
Right on. Far as living long enough to finish developing seeds, she should, as long as you leave the seeded branch on the plant when harvesting. And don't starve her in flower.

Please post pix as the sacs develop. I been busy but I'll post some of my young autos soon... I've 5 seedlings and should know sex soon. I'm hoping for a male so I don't have to spray!
 

nvhak49

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I will but it'll have to Monday or if I go up to where it's at this weekend, cuz I don't have anywhere to put it where I live. No yeah I'll be feeding her she's in coco but my other one is in soil she's still a seedling I'll post pics of it too.
 

nvhak49

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Here's some pictures of my autos that I have going, the bigger one is the blue mystic that I'm feming, she's super leafing I wasn't liking the Cana coco nutes I was using with her to much N during flower, so I switch to some bonicare stuff that has 1% N so hope she starts liking that better and my seedling is a purple auto she hasn't another week or so before she goes outside. I plan on feming her too, I'll start spraying once she starts pre flowering.
 

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