Are lower numbered fertilizer ok to use? (i.e. 5-4-4)

toastmasta · May 5, 2009

Just wondering if you really need a higher numbered fertilizer for vegging. Example being 20-10-10 vs 5-4-4.

I went to Home Depot and they had a bunch of MG and Shulz, which I heard are a no go. Also the majority of the fertilizers there were time release, which is also bad.

The few that I actually found that were not MG or Schulz were ones that had lower numbers such as 4-3-3- and 5-4-4. Will these be ok for vegging or do I really need a higher %? I also found one that had "all 16 nutrients" I forgot the brand, but is this something that is beneficial, or should I really look for something specific?

I know Fox Farms is a favorite, but I'm doing a trial grow with bag seed to get the feel for things. Then I will get legit seeds and a legit setup.

Thanks for any input

toastmasta · May 6, 2009

So anyone have any input? Vigoro, Dynamite and I believe an Alaskan Fish Fertilizer are available alternatives. I will try the Alaskan if I can find it. Anyone tried these?

la9 · May 6, 2009

toastmasta said:
Just wondering if you really need a higher numbered fertilizer for vegging. Example being 20-10-10 vs 5-4-4.

I went to Home Depot and they had a bunch of MG and Shulz, which I heard are a no go. Also the majority of the fertilizers there were time release, which is also bad.

The few that I actually found that were not MG or Schulz were ones that had lower numbers such as 4-3-3- and 5-4-4. Will these be ok for vegging or do I really need a higher %? I also found one that had "all 16 nutrients" I forgot the brand, but is this something that is beneficial, or should I really look for something specific?

I know Fox Farms is a favorite, but I'm doing a trial grow with bag seed to get the feel for things. Then I will get legit seeds and a legit setup.

Thanks for any input

I would get a feel for it with a legit setup if that is what you are going to do. You aren't really going to get a feel for it by doing it one way this time and do everything a different way next time. It's like practicing for a race in a chevette and showing up on race day in a corvette, it's the same thing only a whole lot different. You should get a setup you plan on using and perfecting it as you go instead of switching everything around, just my 2 cents.

toastmasta · May 6, 2009

la9 said:
I would get a feel for it with a legit setup if that is what you are going to do. You aren't really going to get a feel for it by doing it one way this time and do everything a different way next time. It's like practicing for a race in a chevette and showing up on race day in a corvette, it's the same thing only a whole lot different. You should get a setup you plan on using and perfecting it as you go instead of switching everything around, just my 2 cents.

Maybe I should have explained what I meant.

I'm using cfls, using bagseed and not going to get the top of the line product (ie Fox Farms). I have two sets of plants; ones that are about 4 weeks old, and ones that are 2 weeks old. I need to give the 4 week one some nutes.

So next time around, I probably will get some more seeds from Nirvana (I have some older ones, but never used them). I will probably invest in a HPS, and I will probably try and find Fox Farms. So until then I would like a suggestion for a lower costing product.

la9 · May 6, 2009

I don't know how much fox farms is but Botanicare pure blend pro is about $15 a quart and they might sell it in the pint size also. How cheap are you trying to go ?

toastmasta · May 6, 2009

la9 said:
I don't know how much fox farms is but Botanicare pure blend pro is about $15 a quart and they might sell it in the pint size also. How cheap are you trying to go ?

$ isn't a real issue. Just trying to get what I can at home depot.
Back to my original question though. Are using lower numbered fertilizers ok? Like the Alaskan one is 5-1-1. Another is Kelloggs organic 5-4-4. Is this adequate, or do I need something like 20-10-10?

That's what I really needed to know, I think I can find a decent one knowing this.

Thanks for your help and +rep

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