Aphid takeover

myke said:

Dont get any of that sulphur on buds,no spraying in bud room.It leaves a film on the leaves like a white dust.Id do a test first.Good luck.

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Good advice. I learned the hard way to test new products. I sprayed a test plant with the mix a day before I sprayed the whole room. Can never be too careful. I'm testing 1tbsp/quart today on the same test plant. I made a series of screw ups that lead to the plants in my flower room being infested. I almost yanked everything which would have been pretty heartbreaking. I tried everything else I could get my hands on. Avid, forbid, floramite, spinosad, and citric acid. Nothing worked. I'd get a day or two of improvement out of forbid and floramite but that's all. Avid actually made things worse. I might as well have just sprayed water on them.

I agree it's definitely not a good idea to spray sulfur once flowers begin developing. Week 1 is my cut off.

jonnynobody said:

Good advice. I learned the hard way to test new products. I sprayed a test plant with the mix a day before I sprayed the whole room. Can never be too careful. I'm testing 1tbsp/quart today on the same test plant. I made a series of screw ups that lead to the plants in my flower room being infested. I almost yanked everything which would have been pretty heartbreaking. I tried everything else I could get my hands on. Avid, forbid, floramite, spinosad, and citric acid. Nothing worked. I'd get a day or two of improvement out of forbid and floramite but that's all. Avid actually made things worse. I might as well have just sprayed water on them.

I agree it's definitely not a good idea to spray sulfur once flowers begin developing. Week 1 is my cut off.

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Ya if it gets on any buds there garbage. The taste is so bad lol. Don’t ask.

"Sulfur is burned or vaporized to control fungus, mites, or insects. When sulfur is burned, it turns into a gas called sulfur dioxide. The gas can mix with moisture on plants to form an acid that can damage plant leaves. Breathing the gas can be harmful to human health."

A couple of times isn't going to kill your plants or even damage them. Cheap sulfur burners.

Anyone who's over 40 living in El Paso Texas has breathed that shit hundreds of times. ASARCO used to pump it out in huge clouds. A couple of burnings in your grow will be perfectly fine.

hotrodharley said:

Anyone who's over 40 living in El Paso Texas has breathed that shit hundreds of times. ASARCO used to pump it out in huge clouds. A couple of burnings in your grow will be perfectly fine.

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I've always wondered what the secret was for large commercial gardens on how they control pests when the number of plants is so high there's really no viable way to spray them with something. There could be an overhead shower system but it won't get under the leaves where the worst pests live and as far as I know none of the organic products have a translaminar effect. For spider mites a top down spray system wouldn't do anything to control them or correct an infestation. The spray just won't hit 'em where the live.

So I was cruising around youtube for info which can be very dangerous due to the huge amount of horrible advice that gets passed around, but I found a real gem in the pile of shit. This fella was walking through a commercial garden that wasn't like an amazon warehouse, but my god it had endless rooms with endless plants. Dude says they battled mites in the past and it was a real bitch until they started running a sulfur burner at night for 2 hours. The stuff coats everything in the room. Leaf tops, bottoms, and stems. Not to mention your growing medium, buckets, floor, etc...

Dude says anymore than 2 hours/night will burn your plants. They apparently figured that out the hard way. His plants looked amazing and healthy. He says since they began burning the sulfur at night they haven't had any pest problems. My plants are on the 2nd day after spraying sulfur and they look better than they have in a month as I've battled these damned spider mites. It's almost unbelievable at $14 bag of sulfur is kicking the shit outta these mites, but my $230 bottle of forbid isn't doing jack shit. Same for floramite. I'd get 1-2 days of good looking growth then on the 3rd day when they're do for another spray the fuckers had already started up again chewing my new growth. We'll see how they look tomorrow on day 3. At this point I'm loving me some sulfur.

jonnynobody said:

I've always wondered what the secret was for large commercial gardens on how they control pests when the number of plants is so high there's really no viable way to spray them with something. There could be an overhead shower system but it won't get under the leaves where the worst pests live and as far as I know none of the organic products have a translaminar effect. For spider mites a top down spray system wouldn't do anything to control them or correct an infestation. The spray just won't hit 'em where the live.

So I was cruising around youtube for info which can be very dangerous due to the huge amount of horrible advice that gets passed around, but I found a real gem in the pile of shit. This fella was walking through a commercial garden that wasn't like an amazon warehouse, but my god it had endless rooms with endless plants. Dude says they battled mites in the past and it was a real bitch until they started running a sulfur burner at night for 2 hours. The stuff coats everything in the room. Leaf tops, bottoms, and stems. Not to mention your growing medium, buckets, floor, etc...

Dude says anymore than 2 hours/night will burn your plants. They apparently figured that out the hard way. His plants looked amazing and healthy. He says since they began burning the sulfur at night they haven't had any pest problems. My plants are on the 2nd day after spraying sulfur and they look better than they have in a month as I've battled these damned spider mites. It's almost unbelievable at $14 bag of sulfur is kicking the shit outta these mites, but my $230 bottle of forbid isn't doing jack shit. Same for floramite. I'd get 1-2 days of good looking growth then on the 3rd day when they're do for another spray the fuckers had already started up again chewing my new growth. We'll see how they look tomorrow on day 3. At this point I'm loving me some sulfur.

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Sulfur fumes definitely contain sulfur dioxide. SO2. Add H2O and you pick up a free oxygen and you have H2SO4. Sulfuric acid. In your lungs. Evacuate the house and run a couple of hours and then a few days later repeat for any that hatched in the interim.

Sulfur does powdery mildew in. Dusted on grapes which are highly susceptible to PM.

Edit add: I learned about sulfur burners from a nursery owner in Texas. Years ago. I've advised their use on here before. Maybe your experience will push more to try it.

It sounds far scarier and more dangerous than it actually is. Thanks for sharing your actual use @jonnynobody

hotrodharley said:

Sulfur fumes definitely contain sulfur dioxide. SO2. Add H2O and you pick up a free oxygen and you have H2SO4. Sulfuric acid. In your lungs. Evacuate the house and run a couple of hours and then a few days later repeat for any that hatched in the interim.

Sulfur does powdery mildew in. Dusted on grapes which are highly susceptible to PM.

Edit add: I learned about sulfur burners from a nursery owner in Texas. Years ago. I've advised their use on here before. Maybe your experience will push more to try it.

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I think there's a certain mentality that works against people like me who have never grown a plant prior to growing cannabis. Us non gardeners assume a solution is always in an expensive bottle of poison. Or one of the many products at the 'dro store made from cheap household ingredients (nuke 'em, green cleaner, etc..) that's sold for 10x as much as it should cost. A $14 bag of sulfur and pump sprayer is all that's really needed as far as I can tell.

Stinky stuff, but dammit it's effective. A hazmat suit and respirator is recommended. The shit is highly corrosive. It's not a poison like forbid or floramite, but it's definitely not something you want touching your skin or entering your lungs. When I was scooping a tablespoon of sulfur out of the bag a tiny bit of dust went airborne. My lips burned for dam near 10 hours. The next day when it dries up it's harmless, but the sulfur remains coated on the leaves protecting them from nasty little critters that wanna make an all you can eat buffet out of your plants. The REI is 24 hours from what I've read, and it's very accurate so far as I can tell. I went back in 12 hours after spraying and my lips burned when I walked out. When they say 24 hours they ain't shittin.

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Only $54.99?! I'm buying myself one for Christmas.

jonnynobody said:

I think there's a certain mentality that works against people like me who have never grown a plant prior to growing cannabis. Us non gardeners assume a solution is always in an expensive bottle of poison. Or one of the many products at the 'dro store made from cheap household ingredients (nuke 'em, green cleaner, etc..) that's sold for 10x as much as it should cost. A $14 bag of sulfur and pump sprayer is all that's really needed as far as I can tell.

Stinky stuff, but dammit it's effective. A hazmat suit and respirator is recommended. The shit is highly corrosive. It's not a poison like forbid or floramite, but it's definitely not something you want touching your skin or entering your lungs. When I was scooping a tablespoon of sulfur out of the bag a tiny bit of dust went airborne. My lips burned for dam near 10 hours. The next day when it dries up it's harmless, but the sulfur remains coated on the leaves protecting them from nasty little critters that wanna make an all you can eat buffet out of your plants. The REI is 24 hours from what I've read, and it's very accurate so far as I can tell. I went back in 12 hours after spraying and my lips burned when I walked out. When they say 24 hours they ain't shittin.

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I'm not lying saying we walked 2 miles to school. All the kids did including most of the fat ones. This copper refinery pumped out literally tons of smoke high in sulfur dioxide. Mornings especially were terrible if the wind was right. And it came from that direction too often. Eyes burning. Coughing. Everyone hated it. EPA shut it down in the 80's.

hotrodharley said:

I'm not lying saying we walked 2 miles to school. All the kids did including most of the fat ones. This copper refinery pumped out literally tons of smoke high in sulfur dioxide. Mornings especially were terrible if the wind was right. And it came from that direction too often. Eyes burning. Coughing. Everyone hated it. EPA shut it down in the 80's.

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Reminescing about the good old days just warms my heart. You folks a few generations ahead of me dealt with some pretty harsh conditions growing up in general. With that being said I envy your generation. You got to enjoy the best years of your lives without dealing with the mind poison oozing from facebook and social media on a daily basis filling the most uneducated idiots in the country with misinformation and lies that only serve to make them more incompetent and socially dysfunctional. The only thing facebook and twitter have done is give a worldwide platform to idiots so they can spoon feed out of each other's asshole as they spread their hatred and bullshit.

I grew up in the 90's before the internet and cell phones were around for the most part. It wasn't until '99 or so when everyone started carrying cell phones. Nextel anyone? Having lived my childhood before the technology revolution I have a great appreciation for the way life used to be when the only way you could participate in society was to get out the fucking door and get talk to actual people. Now we've got 10' tall keyboard cowboy troll's that can plop their fat asses in a chair all day wearing a dirty burrito stained wife beater and a pair of BVD's with holes in the ass drinking a busch light as they spread their mind sludge over the internet in between jerking off to fat girls scissoring each other.

Man the 90's were great. Hugh Hefner was rockin the playboy mansion, toys R us was still around, no social media, there was no 9/11, girls used the women's restroom, boys used the men's restroom, and nobody knew what the fuck LGBTQ is. Don't even get me started on this new "non-binary" bullshit. We had bottle rocket wars, we played in the woods, we rode bikes allover town raising hell, there was no MAGA, trump was innocently grabbing women by the pussy instead of driving the country into the ground, nobody called 911 when their feelings got hurt, and billy C was getting oval office blowjobs from a chubby little intern with a nice rack. Dammit the 90's were great

Autodoctor said:

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So your name's Michelle? That does look cool though.

PadawanWarrior said:

So your name's Michelle? That does look cool though.

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lol wife’s account