AP: The super spreaders behind top COVID-19 conspiracy theories

hanimmal

hanimmal

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PJ Diaz said:
www.congress.gov

H.R.591 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Defund EcoHealth Alliance Act

Summary of H.R.591 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Defund EcoHealth Alliance Act
www.congress.gov

This bill was just passed yesterday with bipartisan support, it's not a Trump thing.

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So?

Sounds like a political move to just be done with idiotic spam that the propagandists are pushing to me.

Just like Corey Booker shutting down the "Defund the Police" trolling that the right wing tries like hell to paint the Democrats with.


Funny though I would think that a deadly virus lab exploding in China's next door neighbor's country would get at least some mention from you if you were as worried about this as you say you are.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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hanimmal said:
So?

Sounds like a political move to just be done with idiotic spam that the propagandists are pushing to me.

Just like Corey Booker shutting down the "Defund the Police" trolling that the right wing tries like hell to paint the Democrats with.


Funny though I would think that a deadly virus lab exploding in China's next door neighbor's country would get at least some mention from you if you were as worried about this as you say you are.
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No, it's because a lot of people want to get to the bottom of the issue, and hope to prevent future outbreaks which emanate from viral labs. I guess that's not important to you though.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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PJ Diaz said:
No, it's because a lot of people want to get to the bottom of the issue, and hope to prevent future outbreaks which emanate from viral labs.
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So you are pretending like that amendment is about investigating to prevent future viral outbreaks that may or may not have come from a lab (but not the one that exploded I guess since you can't talk about it for some weird reason)? It just says that it is cutting funding to one nonprofit research organization.

Interesting that it doesn't mention anything about prevention at all. I guess though that jumping to conclusions you want to pretend are reality is just par for the course with your death cult spam.

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I guess that's not important to you though.
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You would be incorrect. I think that Trump dismantling our pandemic response team was a tragic mistake.

And I also think it sucks that China went all snowflake about allowing researchers into their nation to do a deep dive into finding out if the origins of the virus was there or not. But I do find it telling that the people that are pushing this troll flat out refuse to even acknowledge that a lab that held Russia's most deadly viruses blowing the fuck up a couple months prior to this outbreak.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49727101





That is what makes me doubt your sincerity.
 
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mooray

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PJ Diaz said:
No, it's because a lot of people want to get to the bottom of the issue, and hope to prevent future outbreaks which emanate from viral labs. I guess that's not important to you though.
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Let me explain a mindset I have, since you seem bent on rofltrolling, which is that when something is "close", then it doesn't matter which way it goes, because we've already failed when things are super close. For example, let's say some crazy Nazi loses a presidential election by 50k votes. To me, there's no difference between them winning and losing, because when you're that close, the problem is already there and the problem is even close to being gone with a "loss".

Likewise, we know there has to be gnarly virus testing in the US, so when something ***absolutely cannot happen***, then we've already lost by doing that testing and whether or not it leaks is irrelevant, because there's no such thing as perfection when it comes to humans. To me, this whole Covid test is about how we handle it and we've shown the world that we're so stupid, that you can kill us with a bad flu.
 
PJ Diaz

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mooray said:
Mmmmm that inner PJ republican is rearing its head, he hungry for them liberal tears.
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Any liberal tears you see will be my own. I'm not happy about the situation, not do I see it to be either right or left leaning. I think we would all want the same thing, which is for scientists to exercise some restraints in not creating super viruses which may accidently get released upon a population. You do want that too right?

As far as @hanimmal being concerned about a lab explosion in Russia, I'm fairly certain that the heat from the blast would immediately kill all viruses in proximity, however I could be wrong about that -- I'm willing to accept alternate possibilities here, nothing has yet been proven.
 
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mooray

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PJ Diaz said:
Any liberal tears you see will be my own. I'm not happy about the situation, not do I see it to be either right or left leaning. I think we would all want the same thing, which is for scientists to exercise some restraints in not creating super viruses which may accidently get released upon a population. You do want that too right?
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Of course, but we've already established that I'm more consistent than you are. Remember when you poo-poo'd the vaccines for their one-in-a-million risk and then tried super hard to pretend you're consistent by saying that you live in a bubble in order avoid all one-in-a-million risk, even though we know you don't? Well...Pepperidge Farm remembers.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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PJ Diaz said:
Any liberal tears you see will be my own. I'm not happy about the situation, not do I see it to be either right or left leaning. I think we would all want the same thing, which is for scientists to exercise some restraints in not creating super viruses which may accidently get released upon a population. You do want that too right?

As far as @hanimmal being concerned about a lab explosion in Russia, I'm fairly certain that the heat from the blast would immediately kill all viruses in proximity, however I could be wrong about that -- I'm willing to accept alternate possibilities here, nothing has yet been proven.
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It gets really hard to not troll you about how your experience in the entertainment industry translates so well into exploding virus lab dynamics.

But at least you can admit that there has been nothing proven about the origins of this very deadly virus burning through our population, that luckily we now have a extremely safe and effective vaccine for.
 
PJ Diaz

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hanimmal said:
It would have been a good building block to developing humility.
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I was on the wrestling team in junior high. Didn't seem like a good career path so didn't pursue it much past that. Picked a water polo in high school instead. I never played any sports in college because that's not what I was there for.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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PJ Diaz said:
I was on the wrestling team in junior high. Didn't seem like a good career path so didn't pursue it much past that. Picked a water polo in high school instead. I never played any sports in college because that's not what I was there for.
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It makes a difference.

Im happy that I went to college later in life and took the education part seriously. Learning math (and economics) did a lot of the work in learning humility that wrestling didn't cover.
 
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mooray

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He's not a good candidate for the vaccine, so he puts his effort into making sure nobody thinks they're a good candidate for a vaccine.

Not sure the humility stuck.
 
PJ Diaz

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mooray said:
He's not a good candidate for the vaccine, so he puts his effort into making sure nobody thinks they're a good candidate for a vaccine.

Not sure the humility stuck.
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I really don't care if other people get the vaxx or not. I believe in free choice in that regard. I also believe in informed consent.
 
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mooray

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I know, I know, it's not your "intent" to seek out and post 99% of anything negative you can find.....it's just a coincidence that it works out that way.
 
PJ Diaz

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mooray said:
I know, I know, it's not your "intent" to seek out and post 99% of anything negative you can find.....it's just a coincidence that it works out that way.
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There are a lot of things I come across which I do not post, because they can not be substantiated. I don't view information as "positive" or "negative", as those are both subjective matters.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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PJ Diaz said:
There are a lot of things I come across which I do not post, because they can not be substantiated. I don't view information as "positive" or "negative", as those are both subjective matters.
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I guess when 99% of everything that comes across your feeds is propaganda it gets difficult.
 
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