AP: Factcheck of GOP Ukraine conspiracy theory

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REP. JIM JORDAN, Ohio Republican, on why the hold on military aid to Ukraine doesn’t amount to a quid pro quo: Ukrainian President Volodymyr “Zelenskiy had to commit to an investigation of the Bidens before the aid got released. And the aid got released, and he didn’t commit to an investigation.”

THE FACTS: It’s true that the aid was released without Trump’s demand for a Ukrainian probe of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter being met. But Jordan and other Republicans who made this point ignored a key detail about the failure of the this-for-that deal to be consummated: The administration got caught holding up the aid to Ukraine.

According to the hearing, the aid that Congress had approved months earlier and Trump had frozen was finally freed Sept. 11.

That was days after congressional committees had begun looking into the matter, aware that the assistance had been sidelined and that a whistleblower had a complaint in motion.

-Really a good read, and the AP doesn't mess around if they are reporting this it is verified.
 
hanimmal said:
REP. JIM JORDAN, Ohio Republican, on why the hold on military aid to Ukraine doesn’t amount to a quid pro quo: Ukrainian President Volodymyr “Zelenskiy had to commit to an investigation of the Bidens before the aid got released. And the aid got released, and he didn’t commit to an investigation.”
THE FACTS: It’s true that the aid was released without Trump’s demand for a Ukrainian probe of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter being met. But Jordan and other Republicans who made this point ignored a key detail about the failure of the this-for-that deal to be consummated: The administration got caught holding up the aid to Ukraine.
According to the hearing, the aid that Congress had approved months earlier and Trump had frozen was finally freed Sept. 11.
That was days after congressional committees had begun looking into the matter, aware that the assistance had been sidelined and that a whistleblower had a complaint in motion.

-Really a good read, and the AP doesn't mess around if they are reporting this it is verified.
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Pulled this from an AP conclusion also

"The mere presence of Mr. Taylor and Mr. Kent before impeachment investigators was exceptional in the annals of modern American history: two active American diplomats testifying against the president of the United States under oath and in defiance of orders from the State Department and the White House."

Fuck this motherfucking traitor, and anyone that supports him.

Trump is done (or should be)
 
I gotta admit, I don't quite like the "testifying against the president" part. They were just presenting information. Whatever comes of it is for others to sort out.
 
mooray said:
I gotta admit, I don't quite like the "testifying against the president" part. They were just presenting information. Whatever comes of it is for others to sort out.
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they weren't testifying for the DOTUS. they were contradicting whatever spin he was trying out on his FOX morons this week. next week will be different spin
 
hanimmal said:
REP. JIM JORDAN, Ohio Republican, on why the hold on military aid to Ukraine doesn’t amount to a quid pro quo: Ukrainian President Volodymyr “Zelenskiy had to commit to an investigation of the Bidens before the aid got released. And the aid got released, and he didn’t commit to an investigation.”
THE FACTS: It’s true that the aid was released without Trump’s demand for a Ukrainian probe of former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter being met. But Jordan and other Republicans who made this point ignored a key detail about the failure of the this-for-that deal to be consummated: The administration got caught holding up the aid to Ukraine.
According to the hearing, the aid that Congress had approved months earlier and Trump had frozen was finally freed Sept. 11.
That was days after congressional committees had begun looking into the matter, aware that the assistance had been sidelined and that a whistleblower had a complaint in motion.

-Really a good read, and the AP doesn't mess around if they are reporting this it is verified.
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even the WH lawyers knew what Trump was doing was illegal. they freed up the aid to Ukraine concurrent to Congress asking WTF was going on.
 
mooray said:
I gotta admit, I don't quite like the "testifying against the president" part. They were just presenting information. Whatever comes of it is for others to sort out.
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That is fair, I think it was more about them being told not to testify by Trump and going against him to do it maybe.
 
Dude you posts kill me. Everything you type I can't help but imagining the guy in your avatar saying it in kind of a half crazy half aggressive manner with a lot of body twitching and arms flailing about.
 
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