i trained them but they streched and would make the plant as wide as a bear hug. if i could get the same leafage with out that stem it would allow me to fit way more
i dont want to have to train down stretchy branches. thats what i did on some of these and the plants have a very wide diameter. i want to keep them unstreched from the beginning but they seem to always try to push up past the sun leaves stretching it out