Another white guy gun massacre.

Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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FunCatLady2017 said:
Grew up with them. Own several. Not paranoid about losing my right to own assault weapons or anything close to that. 2nd Amendment rights are not under attack.
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Assault weapons are fully automatic (not "automated") by definition.
None of the guns used in mass shootings were fully automatic. That's why the LV shooter used a "bump stock".

If you don't like gun violence, why not focus on handguns? That's where the body count is... :roll:
 
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FunCatLady2017

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Chunky Stool said:
Assault weapons are fully automatic (not "automated") by definition.
None of the guns used in mass shootings were fully automatic. That's why the LV shooter used a "bump stock".

If you don't like gun violence, why not focus on handguns? That's where the body count is... :roll:
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I can't shoot 19 people as fast with a 38 as he did.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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FunCatLady2017 said:
No, I didn't state surrendering all guns, but Americans don't need fully automated, military weapons. There should also be licensing, back ground checks, mental health considerations, etc. We require drivers to be licensed and yet hand out guns to anyone.
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So, you would be okay with police using automated weapons to initiate force to take away automated weapons from owners of them to ensure that automated weapons won't be used violently?
 
Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Your post was a nonsequitur to the thread. However, I was just admitting you were right. I mean, people don't care about laws. You don't care about child consent laws. How is this so hard for you to understand?
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I'm sorry that I was confused, and thought I was wrong, when I was right all along. Good call.
 
Rob Roy

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FunCatLady2017 said:
There still needs to be laws. Certain guns do not need to be available for ownership. I'm tired of whole sale slaughter of children in school or families in church. Many are tired of "praying" afterwards. Doesn't seem to help.
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I'm tired of police using automated weapons to arrest people for victimless crimes. So, how about we mow the lawn and solve the problem ? "At least we'd be doing something!!!"
 
Chunky Stool

Chunky Stool

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Rob Roy said:
So, you would be okay with police using automated weapons to initiate force to take away automated weapons from owners of them to ensure that automated weapons won't be used violently?
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She's too dumb to realize you're making fun of her... :roll:
 
Fogdog

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SneekyNinja said:
Alot of gun owners I know want background checks, licensing, mental health exams, mandatory secure storage, etc
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that's nice.

"Alot" don't. Too many. They are adamant about not following those procedures.

There is currently no consequences if people don't. Does it really matter if "Alot of gun owners want background checks" if nothing actually happens? I think that the non-gun owning majority has to step up and join the people you mentioned to do something about gun regulations.

Just throwing something out there for discussion. A long time ago, drunk driving was joked about and treated as no big deal. It took years of public information campaigns, strict laws with consequences and enforcement to change that sentiment. Now, when somebody is convicted of DUI, it's not only a legal issue but also a social shaming event. How about using MAD's campaign as a model for initiating that kind of change in legal and social sentiment? For example, apply legal and social pressure against parents of a kid who gains access to the household's guns and hurts people. Or whenever their gun hurts somebody in non-defensive action. Gun was stolen? Did you report it and was it locked in a safe at the time? No? Well then we'll take away all your guns, revoke privilege to own one for a period of time and put your ass into an orange jumpsuit to pick up garbage every weekend for a year.

It's time to take the gloves off.
 
Fogdog

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Chunky Stool said:
Assault weapons are fully automatic (not "automated") by definition.
None of the guns used in mass shootings were fully automatic. That's why the LV shooter used a "bump stock".

If you don't like gun violence, why not focus on handguns? That's where the body count is... :roll:
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Why not regulate all of them more heavily? I don't care if it's a flintlock or a Glock that was used to kill people. Before you go all moron on me, I'm not saying "take away all guns", I'm saying take the "well regulated" part of the 2nd seriously.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Fogdog said:
that's nice.

"Alot" don't. Too many. They are adamant about not following those procedures.

There is currently no consequences if people don't. Does it really matter if "Alot of gun owners want background checks" if nothing actually happens? I think that the non-gun owning majority has to step up and join the people you mentioned to do something about gun regulations.

Just throwing something out there for discussion. A long time ago, drunk driving was joked about and treated as no big deal. It took years of public information campaigns, strict laws with consequences and enforcement to change that sentiment. Now, when somebody is convicted of DUI, it's not only a legal issue but also a social shaming event. How about using MAD's campaign as a model for initiating that kind of change in legal and social sentiment? For example, apply legal and social pressure against parents of a kid who gains access to the household's guns and hurts people. Or whenever their gun hurts somebody in non-defensive action. Gun was stolen? Did you report it and was it locked in a safe at the time? No? Well then we'll take away all your guns, revoke privilege to own one for a period of time and put your ass into an orange jumpsuit to pick up garbage every weekend for a year.

It's time to take the gloves off.
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"We'll take away all your guns" - Fogdog

Will you use guns to do this ?

When did gun ownership become a privilege ?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Fogdog said:
Why not regulate all of them more heavily? I don't care if it's a flintlock or a Glock that was used to kill people. Before you go all moron on me, I'm not saying "take away all guns", I'm saying take the "well regulated" part of the 2nd seriously.
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