Ok so you cut the top of the plant off ,the top stops growing and the 2 new branches that were ALREADY there before you cut the top now become the top of the plant.. Do I have that right? So exactly what is the point other then maybe making the bud sites at more of the same level depending on where you top? It doesn't actually create MORE bud sites.. Or am I missing something?
Am I the only one who doesn't see the point in topping/fimming?
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spencer2121
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it basicly makes those two branchs become the new main colas so you get two main colas instead of one or i can have 35 main colas like meee lol http://youtu.be/L26IWQi-b2A
johnman2880
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because it creates a 2 main cola top.basically your splitting the stem in half.also you get more light at the bottom of the plant and on the inside of the canopy.its good just do it!
spencer2121
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dude those branches woundnt be main colas just tiny buds if u didnt top it, its pretty simple, you cut the top off, the plant thinks the two small branchs are the top and rushs nutes to those sites and it makes two main colas, why do u want branchs? u want nodes that will grow buds
Yeah and nodes grow on branches! Those 2 tops (in the pic) are ALREADY there before he tops so it doesn't create 2 new tops it just makes them the highest point on the plant..If he didn't top he would have had those 2 PLUS the top he cut off..they also wouldn't be a tiny cola they would be 2 branches + you would have the top you cut off as well. So wouldn't it make more sense to lst or scrog instead? Also I'm interested in the benefits for a mother plant only not for a plant you plan to flower... Again if I'm missing something please let me know because it really doesn't make sense to me right now.
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Motorbuds
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The only way you're going to be able to see the difference is by trying it. The plant will just grow straight up with a big stalk up the middle with some branching if you don't top it. If you do, it will stay shorter and turn into a bush with more tops. You're not looking for more branches, you're looking for more budsites.
shrxhky420
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here is a plant that was topped to have 4 colas and the other was not topped only 1 cola
. stay high
. stay highBut the plant that wasn't topped has the same 4 colas as the topped plant PLUS the big main one in the middle, which was cut off on the other plant. How is there MORE tops on the topped plant? The only benefit I see is that the light can be closer to 4 colas, but your still loosing that main one. Honestly I'd rather have the untopped plant on the right.
VX420
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Good for you.. DONT TOP.... Ok done.
kevin murphy
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nice video spence
Prefontaine
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the point is the other two colas get the energy that would have been directed toward the main cola, this leads to a more evenly spaced amount of nugs so that you can get the most affect from your lights, because the further a leaf is away from the light the less lumens it gets. also if you top each of those new stems, now you have even more "main" stems which will hold up to the weight of the nugs better, the point is if your lighting is more productive you get more weight from your plant
the main growing tip has the highest levels of growth hormones in the plant. when you cut this, the plant redistributes those hormones to more growing tips making them bigger than they would have been had you not cut off the main top. another factor which you must consider is canopy management. when growing with artificial lights, the light intensity diminishes the farther away from the bulb the plant is. this creates a sweet spot or zone really where you have the best light and grow the best buds. therefor you want to optimize this space by making sure it is filled with budsites all at this height or distance from the bulb. topping spreads your canopy and lets you bring the light the closest to the most budsites.
If you don't have anything to add bro why post at all? I'm trying to understand the point of topping because I'm considering doing it to my mothers. Some people actually have a brain and don't just do what everyone says without getting information.
I understand that it makes the canopy more even but again wouldn't scrog or lst be more beneficial? As far as the more energy going to the 2 branches that become the main tops...I don't see any more growth on the topped plant in the pic below then the untopped one.. The untopped plant actually has more growth because it still has the main top. If he went and cut that top off right now they would look exactly the same.. so what did he accomplish by topping other then making a more even canopy?
Mel O'Cheddar
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I'm kinda surprised nobody has brought this up yet, but just try it on one plant, observe, and make your own decision based on what you see. I have a hard time "getting" stuff sometimes unless it's right the fuck in front of me. (Just so you know I'm not knocking you if you're like that.) Write that shit down for future reference.
I keep notes on our grows since The Spouse is just too busy getting boners over the Future Weed. He tops and we have good results.
Happy growing & good luck.
I keep notes on our grows since The Spouse is just too busy getting boners over the Future Weed. He tops and we have good results.
Happy growing & good luck.
whuh you're right, you're not really "gaining" anything from topping, mathematically. For the sake of discussion, you get the same yield in the end either way.
However topping has as much merit as LST with respect to shifting hormones around to force lower nodes to grow taller and cause the plant to grow shorter and bushier. To this effect, they are excellent techniques for controlling your canopy and height, and by virtue of this alone topping is beneficial.
So really, height & canopy control are the direct benefits of topping and LST, not "more tops". And when growing indoors these benefits can mean big gains in yield!
Hope this helps.
However topping has as much merit as LST with respect to shifting hormones around to force lower nodes to grow taller and cause the plant to grow shorter and bushier. To this effect, they are excellent techniques for controlling your canopy and height, and by virtue of this alone topping is beneficial.
So really, height & canopy control are the direct benefits of topping and LST, not "more tops". And when growing indoors these benefits can mean big gains in yield!
Hope this helps.
DST
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I ran an experiment with two clones, same age, same treament, substrate, etc. One was topped, the other left to grow natural, and both gave out exactly the same weight to within a gram.
However, I do believe from others experiences that I have talked to, that like most things it is strain specific. Some plants are happy being topped, produce more vigourous growth, and do not loose anything as far as the flowers weight being distributed across colas. Others simply don't benefit.
It also depends on your growing style, you could say topping could be likened to supercropping, which ultimately on the right strain can produce fatter harvests.
If I want multiple tops I just tend to put a stake in the pot and tie the top down below the last node and eh voila, multiple tops created, or the further you bend down, the more tops you get....
I think it's a great topic of discussion though.
Peace, DST
However, I do believe from others experiences that I have talked to, that like most things it is strain specific. Some plants are happy being topped, produce more vigourous growth, and do not loose anything as far as the flowers weight being distributed across colas. Others simply don't benefit.
It also depends on your growing style, you could say topping could be likened to supercropping, which ultimately on the right strain can produce fatter harvests.
If I want multiple tops I just tend to put a stake in the pot and tie the top down below the last node and eh voila, multiple tops created, or the further you bend down, the more tops you get....
I think it's a great topic of discussion though.
Peace, DST
Dislexicmidget2021
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its turning the plant into a cola factory,top away on one plant as an experiment of sorts,ive topped up to 4 times on a plant before ended up with 12 colas, its the sh$#t!
why dont you stop theorizing and just do it. everyone that has given you an answer has most likely learned by having topped and witnessing the results first hand. if you dont wanna believe us then do it yourself and stop asking the same question thinking you are gonna get a different answer. grow a few more plants, top them and then come back and talk about it, because right all you are doing is thinking which does not always equate to reality.
