All 4 plants wilted propellor leaves/droopy leaves/ all problems are below 1st leaf

I have a lot to say, but first, my setup:

- 63 x 30 x 30 tent
- Apollo horticulture 600W ballast (dimmed to 450) running the blue spectrum (MH)
1 plant is an auto-flowering Moby Dick
1 plant is a Super Lemon Haze
The other 2 are bag seed from a male or hermi plant, but it smelled and looked like a fine strain.

Now, as you can see my first unknown plant has yellow around its lower set of leaves, and also it's first set of propellor-shaped leaves have wilted off (they were yellow for awhile). The same can be said for all my other plants. If they haven't withered away their dry and yellow.

Also, is it time to transplant? I included 2 pics of some pots I got today, one didn't state how many gallons it held (I know a common measure when talking about this stuff) but it did say it was 10 inches in diameter. I want my most healthy plants to be transplanted to the biggest pots, since I'm working in an enclosed space. The Lowe's jug/container with handle is pretty damn tall, 15 inches, with the terra cotta pot being just 10. I'd have to pluck holes in the bottom if I use it.

Today marks 30 days even. I try to keep them as close to a timing schedule as possible but I can't figure out this damn light timer. A few times, they got almost 24 hours of light, but never more than 6 hours left in the dark. But more or less they get an even amount of lighting, or close to it. I introduced Fox Farms Grow Big for the first time two weeks ago, for one feeding, and haven't given it any since.

I'm hoping these problems are because they need bigger pot

Included in this set of pics is all 4 plants. I transplanted two jiffy peat cups into larger gallon jugs cut-off at the top. They have since grown dramatically larger, I'll include a pic of when they were just in their small cups.

I've also noticed that when I water, the water either pools up at the top rim or takes awhile to absorb. What could I do so that the water runs through the dirt? I tried to bury them up to their necks by the propellor sets.

I also leave the zipper half open to ventilate more air as the window fan does keep it circulating, as you can see. Also included are pics of some pots I bought since I think a transplant for the cafe bustelo is immininent. What do you guys think?

No exhaust, just air coming in from my window dual-fan, on the lowest setting.

bump... hte tallest plant is now 100% dropped over only the stalk is standing up, PLEASE help

Not sure why no one will respond to my post, maybe I type using to many words? I'm not sure how intelligent many of the users are on here. Not an insult just venting my aggravation at coming to sites, the only place for help, and receiving none of it.

But can someone explain to me why my plant went from this: pic 1

to this?: pic 2

Is this plant dead or can it be revived? Will transplating into a larger pot make the leaves stand up again? This problem is definitely NOT from overwatering.

I'm really feeling like I'm flushing months of rent money down the drain, and I need your help. Please. Thanks in advance

Wow, 137 views and not a single response? Good thing I'm a member on other forums and I took their collective advice as it often matched what was said and VOILA... though not perfect it's much better especially after a long night of 9 or 10 hours of dark and just a humidifier running.

The problem seems to have been for the most part under-watering. The first plant, (the coffee can) is looking way more vibrant and alive, yet the leaves at the bottom are still yellow and the propellor set has all but completely withered off the stem.

The 2nd plant, which hadn't looked as sick is also a bit yellow.They appear to be a good green but they just branch out funny. I think I have strange leaves in general. It steadily grows but not very tall... my question is do you think I need to transplant now? Could that be the main cause or could it be something else? Either way the plants all seem to be short for 31 days. As you can see, though its still alive and green, the bottom first set of leaves or what I call propellor blades are really yellow and deformed. Should I be concerned what is the cause for this on all my plants? I believed my brown ceramic and coffee can were the moby dick and super lemon haze strains.

Here are my plants at a distance, and then closer so you can see the dynamics of my grow room... how I have just the window fan blowing in on the lowest setting, and all the duct flaps opened up completely for lots of passive exhaust, plus the cool air from the fan helps regulate temperatures... it's gotten to the 90's before but for the most part will stay in the 80's. The humidity is 16% sometimes as the humidifier runs out of water every 10 hours or so. Even with it on, my RH is only between 27%-35% on average, and sometimes for some reason it shoots off to 40-50%, but thats usually only when the light is off, where it can get to late 60's but usually 70's. I keep the thermometer/hygrometer at plant level and the outdoor lead at in the corner of the tent away from the fan and humidifier just to see what it reads out of curiosity.

Both thermometer/hygrometer give readings that can vary between 5F and 12%RH.

you need to transplant when the diameter of your leafs are twice the diameter of your pot. i'd avoid planting in spherical pots... you will have a hard time getting ur roots out for transplant. there might be a little deficiency on some of your plants with the yellow leafs. your temperature is way too high for them. 72 is optimum temp. did you overwater/underwater the droopy plant? make sure u got proper aeration and enough holes so water will drain. looks to me u overwatered/underwatered it rather than a significant nutrient issue

This might as well be my grow journal... but anyways here are other 2 plants, the one in the jug is looking good, he was just transplanted 2 days ago from a small jiffy peat cup, and the pretzel rod round container plant was transplanted from the same. They are small, but I think that's because they only are not developing a bigger root system... unfortunately it's been 31 days and the pretzel rod plant measures 3 inches tall.

urgod said:

you need to transplant when the diameter of your leafs are twice the diameter of your pot. i'd avoid planting in spherical pots... you will have a hard time getting ur roots out for transplant. there might be a little deficiency on some of your plants with the yellow leafs. your temperature is way too high for them. 72 is optimum temp. did you overwater/underwater the droopy plant? make sure u got proper aeration and enough holes so water will drain. looks to me u overwatered/underwatered it rather than a significant nutrient issue

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Thanks for your reply, I actually overwatered as I read most new growers overwater so I guess I hesitated a bit. A good watering was for the most part an overnight cure, spare for the yellow leaves that are still at the bottom of the stem.

I suppose that could be attributed to me having no exhaust circulation, just open air vents.

whats the plant adjacent to your first pic? it looks like its troubled.. they look healthy to me imo, you should transplant them to a 5gal pot imo

Which first pic? Where's it situated? Sorry this is a double blind test to see if high grade bag seeds can match that of those I bought in Europe. One is moby dick, the other super lemon haze.

i grew moby dick/ slh. they are heavy nutrient eaters. in my aero system, they liked ppms of 1300-1400 hehehehe, just kept them fed and they will grow huge.

I have Fox Farms Grow Big, fed them it ounce, then got freaked out about the yellow and wondered about nutrient burn as this was when they were maybe 2 1/2 weeks old. Should I begin feeding it nutes now? I hear lots of things about how often one should use nutrients with water and alter between the two so you might give it nutes once a week.

feed them when their cotelydon ( two little round leafs) has fallen. start with 1/4 strength. but i dont think u need to feed them as often since ur in soil. is fox farm pre nuted?

No I'm using a locally bought bag of potting soil mixed with of earthworm castings

Edit: Thanks for saying cotelydon they are no longer "propeller leaves" ever again lol

earthworm casting, isnt that nitrogen and potassium? see if u can get nutritional info on ur soil

I'll call monday and ask as it is locally made. Definitely some perlite in their though.

I could always just use the fox farms nutes