Agave Nectar??

vivalaboss

Well-Known Member
Ive been using some Grandmas Molasses throughout this grow, but ran across something at the store the other day that looked pretty interesting and sorta like molasses....Has anyone ever used Agave Nectar made by Madhava?? i was just wondering if it was pretty much the same as molasses, or what....maybe it will make the buds sweeter or thicker or who knows...hopefully someone out there can shed some light!
Thanx
 

snew

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Agave Nectar is a good sweetener, however, molasses, blackstrap in particular, has many trace elements that you are not going to find in Agave Nectar.
 

vivalaboss

Well-Known Member
thanx for the post snew....ya i figured there werent as many trace elements in the agave just from reading the label.....i have a plant thats about 2 weeks from being done, so would it be a good idea to use it all the way to harvest so there good and sweet or should i flush it out before harvest.....
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
thanx for the post snew....ya i figured there werent as many trace elements in the agave just from reading the label.....i have a plant thats about 2 weeks from being done, so would it be a good idea to use it all the way to harvest so there good and sweet or should i flush it out before harvest.....
agave nectar not as many trace, but still a good carb source, especially later in flower when extra micronutes will only make the buds crackle when smoked.

Also I've been reading about using aloe vera juice for the carbs/micronutes, and that it contains saponins, which are the surfactants we use, an added benefit.
 

georgiagreenthumb

Active Member
I wouldn't use the Agave. I just bought me some good ole blackstrap. But the problem I got, is when am I supposed to start feeding my lady with it? Flowering,vegging, ???? Someone shed some light on this for me please?
 

vivalaboss

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i believe you can use it all the way through the grow, from vegging to budding....its always a good thing cause it helps feed all the good microbes and stuff in the soil....so your soil will definately appreciate you for it, and in turn your plants will thank ya back cause they've got some good healthy soil, and thats what its all about in organics is a good healthy soil that will feed your plants everything they need when they need it without us having to interfere except to feed the soil occasionally with stuff like Molasses and all that good stuff....now this isnt gospel, but thats my stoned little take on it...i use it all through my grows at usually about 1/2 tbsp per gallon during veg, then 1tbsp per gallon during budding...i like to feed my soil at least once a week with it, and it really seems to help plants that have been under stress bounce back quickly....i know ive probobly rambled and made no sense, but i hope somethin in there helps ya out a bit...i found a good forum on molasses a while back ill try and find it and post it for ya real quick...


[FONT=&quot]Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates - b.com]Texas Plant & Soil Lab Report [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]“Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates”[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Sugars relating to plant functions for maximum economic production.
Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc., [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Texas Plant & Soil Lab (Home)[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

Environmental factors that affect when and how much sugar to use:
a. How much nitrate is in the soil, and plant sap (petiole test).
b. Soil moisture conditions.
c. Sunlight intensity.
d. Temperature.
e. Wind
f. Fruiting stage / load
g. Growth / vigor [shade lower leaves]

The right amount at the right time can improve fruiting and produce normal
plant growth with less attraction for disease and insects.

Needed for healthy plants - fruit production - plant development &
maturity.
Roots take nutrients from the soil and transport them up the stalk thru the
petiole (stem) to the leaves where the sunlight aids the production of
photosynthates (sugars are not the ONLY product of photosynthesis)
carbohydrates (C, H & O), principally glucose (C6H12O6) and then other sugars and photosynthates are formed.

Plant Sugars and other photosynthates are first translocated (boron is essential to the translocation) to a fruiting site. If fruit is not available, the sugars, along with excess nitrates, spur the rapid vegetative growth of the plant at the expense of creating fruiting bodies (first sink) for the storage of the sugars.

Once the proper balance of environmental factors (heat units, light intensity, soil moisture, nutrient balance, etc) are met, the fruiting buds form and then fruit formation gets the first crack at the sugar supply.

Any excess sugars are then translocated to the number two sink, (growing terminals,) to speed their growth. The left-over sugars, etc. then go to the number 3 sink, (the roots,) to aid their growth. Here the new root hairs take up nutrients to help continue the cycle of sugar and other photosynthate production, fruiting, growth of terminals and roots.

ADDED SUGARS CAN AID THE PLANT IN SEVERAL WAYS:
- MOLASSES is probably the best outside source of many sugars, such as table sugar, corn syrup and several more complex sugars such as polysaccharides found in humus products.
- Sugar can be added to the soil in irrigation water, drip & pivot being the most effective.

In the soil it can:

- Feed microbes to stimulate the conversion of nitrates to the more efficient NH2 form of N to synthesize protein more directly by the plants.

- The roots can directly absorb some of the sugars into the sap stream to supplement the leaf supply to fruit where it is most needed, and ALSO directly feed the roots for continued productive growth.

- This ADDED sugar can also help initiate fruiting buds in a steady-slow
fashion while maintaining normal growth.

-EXCESSIVE amounts of ADDED SUGARS applied foliarly can shock the
plant resulting in shortened growth internodes, increased leaf maturity & initiation of excess fruiting sites. This can be a short term effect lasting only a few days.

Pollination, soil moisture, nutrient balance and sufficiency as well as adequate light for photosynthate production decide how much of the induced fruit can mature. [/FONT]
 

snew

Well-Known Member
thanx for the post snew....ya i figured there werent as many trace elements in the agave just from reading the label.....i have a plant thats about 2 weeks from being done, so would it be a good idea to use it all the way to harvest so there good and sweet or should i flush it out before harvest.....
At 2 weeks from harvest I wouldn't feed any thing. Remember does not directly feed the plant but feeds the microbes in the soil. Its not going to make the plant sweeter. I can't answer the flush question. I use only organic's and feel no need to flush. I hope there looking good.
 

Wetdog

Well-Known Member
agave nectar not as many trace, but still a good carb source, especially later in flower when extra micronutes will only make the buds crackle when smoked.
I'm looking into agave for just that reason/purpose, especially the last couple of weeks before the chop.

Big fan of other agave products as well. LOL

Wet
 
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