Advice Please - Recommended Products For Healthy Hydro Growing?

Hi Guys,

I'm nearly good to go with my aeroponics tote. Many thanks for all the help so far !!

I'm now wanting a product to keep the tote container healthy.

What would you guys recommend? I'm looking at liquid oxygen, sensizym, Rhizotonic, Silver Bullet etc....

I'd like something that won't kill the good microheard, or my bank balance.

Any help much appreciated!!

Happy growing.

I'd stay away from any 'zyme products unless you like cleaning plugged up jets a lot.

Food grade hydrogen peroxide, (liquid oxygen), and a sterile system is the way to go IMO.

Well that seems cheap enough Oldmeduser ! Many thanks. I'm not sure on calibration of food grade HP with the various % strength. Liquid oxygen sounds perfect then !!

Peace out.

OldMedUser said:

I'd stay away from any 'zyme products unless you like cleaning plugged up jets a lot.

Food grade hydrogen peroxide, (liquid oxygen), and a sterile system is the way to go IMO.

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If you meant aminos, yes, stay away from them in hydro.I use enzymes in my low pressure aero system. In 3+weeks @ 300+ ppm I've only had 2/4 heads clog. Today I wrapped the pump and filter in a nylon footie that should resolve that issue

OP you're far better off with a sterile hydro system

I've been growing using reservoirs in high heat zones for the last year... It was a pain because it would always contaminate. Then i tried using some recharge (yes, on a hydro setup) and it actually worked. Nothing else, using normal hydro nutes like gh maxigro and just bombing the water with as little recharge as i could get away with.

It made my water brown but everything was healthy. I just had to clean more often, that was it.

Now here's something interesting, that unfortunately i haven't tried yet:

...1/4 Teaspoon of pool shock to 1 gallon of tap water to make fake florakleen. Once mix is diluted, you can add your fake florakleen to your reservoir at ratio of 1 oz to 1 gallon.

Making homemade Florakleen / Clearex for pennies using Pool Shock.

DryTec Hypochlorite Chlorinating Treatment on Amazon

for more info:

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Its for keeping your rez sterile and free of bad bacteria. At 65%calcium hypochlorite mix 1gram per gallon for a stock solution then add 1 ml per gallon of nutrient mix, that gives you 1 ppm per gal. But it depends on what your growing. Cannabis can take up to 5 ppm and lettuce much less,so research your plants tolerance. I use this in dwc and its not a cure its prevention. I use 1ml per gallon every 3 days in my rez and keeps all bacteria away. It also works best around a ph of 6.0 roughly?

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That's just some stuff i've found, hope it helps!

Northernpop said:

Well that seems cheap enough Oldmeduser ! Many thanks. I'm not sure on calibration of food grade HP with the various % strength. Liquid oxygen sounds perfect then !!

Peace out.

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I've done about 50 DWC grows since '01 and used 35% food grade peroxide once I clued into it. Harder to find that but the 29% isn't that much weaker so I add a bit more.

With 35% I used 0.5ml/L, 2ml/gal twice a week for a maintenance dose. Nute temps were often close to 80F and only had root rot show up twice and beat it down by upping the dose to up to 4ml/L, 16/gal. Both times saved the plants with very little impact on growth or yields.

Got two tubs going now and they are doing crap. Knew I had some root rot with the clones but can't get them to do anything so ripping them out and planting in soilless/soil mix to see if I can save them. Don't know why they aren't working.

eyderbuddy said:

I've been growing using reservoirs in high heat zones for the last year... It was a pain because it would always contaminate. Then i tried using some recharge (yes, on a hydro setup) and it actually worked. Nothing else, using normal hydro nutes like gh maxigro and just bombing the water with as little recharge as i could get away with.

It made my water brown but everything was healthy. I just had to clean more often, that was it.

Now here's something interesting, that unfortunately i haven't tried yet:

That's just some stuff i've found, hope it helps!

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I've read about using pool shock but just don't like the idea of adding chlorine to anything. I won't even drink chlorinated water as it's a lot worse for you than you think and the source of most heart and arterial disease.

OldMedUser said:

I've read about using pool shock but just don't like the idea of adding chlorine to anything. I won't even drink chlorinated water as it's a lot worse for you than you think and the source of most heart and arterial disease.

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That's interesting that you mention heart and arterial disease. I'd like to know more if possible... Do you mind sharing a few sources for me to read?

I personally don't drink chlorinated water... but i'm not the kind of person to just demonize or sanctify a certain compound without evidence

I don’t use anything now except chilled water but had great luck with hydroguard when I could get it here. I use an amino product and it has cleared up any blotching I’ve had, not sure why it was recommended not to use it, perhaps you could elaborate on that @PetFlora

OldMedUser said:

I've done about 50 DWC grows since '01 and used 35% food grade peroxide once I clued into it. Harder to find that but the 29% isn't that much weaker so I add a bit more.

With 35% I used 0.5ml/L, 2ml/gal twice a week for a maintenance dose. Nute temps were often close to 80F and only had root rot show up twice and beat it down by upping the dose to up to 4ml/L, 16/gal. Both times saved the plants with very little impact on growth or yields.

Got two tubs going now and they are doing crap. Knew I had some root rot with the clones but can't get them to do anything so ripping them out and planting in soilless/soil mix to see if I can save them. Don't know why they aren't working.

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So the H2O2 isn’t working?

Budley Doright said:

So the H2O2 isn’t working?

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Doesn't seem to be root rot that has them screwed up. No slime or brown crap on the roots. What roots they had are still there and stay the same. Some of the plants are growing but they are sickly. They all had mites and thrips earlier pretty seriously so maybe they are just too stressed to do anything and/or have some disease from the bugs.

I potted one of the CBD girls last night that looks on it's last legs and there were some short white roots in with the older ones so hopefully it will take in the pot and I can get cuttings off it down the road. Try to get the rest done today then repot the BB, AK47 and OG18 girls before flipping in a week or so.

Got enough going on with potted plants so setting up to flower them out and will have lots of cuttings to play with and cracking some beans. I forgot about some that should be a nice cross my buddy gave me. (NL x Purple Indica) x Bubblegum. Another buddy that sent me 100s of seeds from his cross of Island Sweet Skunk and DJ Short's BlueBerry has reported that a good portion of the ones he flowered out have gone hermie where the 5 - ISS mothers had no problems. I figure that one of the 3 - male BB carried a strong hermie gene and as he used all 3 in a mass pollination I'm going to have to grow out lots and cross them to select only seeds that come from girls that get to the finish line without showing any balls or 'nanners. Done that before with some Afghani Kush beans gifted to me about 10 years ago that were the product of a hermie pollination and had no herms in the seeds I selected after growing out 40 seeds and breeding the non-hermies of the bunch. At least four others grew out some of those and only reported that they had about 70% females so were quite happy. Great producers but didn't have the buzz this old head needs.

eyderbuddy said:

That's interesting that you mention heart and arterial disease. I'd like to know more if possible... Do you mind sharing a few sources for me to read?

I personally don't drink chlorinated water... but i'm not the kind of person to just demonize or sanctify a certain compound without evidence

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I've known about chlorine for decades and haven't bothered looking into it for a long time. Google is your friend.

Drank RO water since we moved up here in '01 and was on well water using a Brita filter for 20 years before moving here. I add a bit of pink Himalayan sea salt and some coral calcium to my RO water for some good minerals. Town water here is horrible and reeks of chlorine but at least they stopped using fluoride a decade ago. The majority of the townsfolk are obese with many morbidly so and a trip to the supermarket explains a lot of that. I see these obese mothers trailing their obese pre-teen kids with a cart full of junk food and want to scream at them for the child abuse going on.

I feel a rant coming on and to avoid hijacking this thread shall refrain and bid you a good day.

Budley Doright said:

I don’t use anything now except chilled water but had great luck with hydroguard when I could get it here. I use an amino product and it has cleared up any blotching I’ve had, not sure why it was recommended not to use it, perhaps you could elaborate on that @PetFlora

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It seems people are confused about the difference between microbes and aminos/enzymes

I was having huge root issues in my last 2 f & d grows. I contacted NPK Industries Harley told me that aminos were a problem in hydro, but they convert the nutrients to enzymes and aminos

I am adding them to my new grow with Emerald Harvest 3 part

PetFlora said:

It seems people are confused about the difference between microbes and aminos/enzymes

I was having huge root issues in my last 2 f & d grows. I contacted NPK Industries Harley told me that aminos were a problem in hydro, but they convert the nutrients to enzymes and aminos

I am adding them to my new grow with Emerald Harvest 3 part

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Im confused lol. So amino’s are good? The only issue I have had is using them to far into flower. So your saying that amino acids change salts into enzymes? Sorry like I said, I’m confused. Nice roots btw .

Lets see if I can unconfuse you

AS I UNDERSTAND IT: microbes get turned into aminos and the enzymes help make them bioavailable

same for human digestion

hth

PetFlora said:

Lets see if I can unconfuse you

AS I UNDERSTAND IT: microbes get turned into aminos and the enzymes help make them bioavailable

same for human digestion

hth

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But what happens when you add aminos. You said that was a bad thing in hydro, that’s what I’m trying to establish. I’ve added vitanimo for about two years and love the stuff so just trying to find out why it’s bad? I also just started using mega crop with aminos so is this a bad thing?

PetFlora said:

It seems people are confused about the difference between microbes and aminos/enzymes

I was having huge root issues in my last 2 f & d grows. I contacted NPK Industries Harley told me that aminos were a problem in hydro, but they convert the nutrients to enzymes and aminos

I am adding them to my new grow with Emerald Harvest 3 part

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What did ole harley say that the problem was/is if you use amino's in hydro.

Budley Doright said:

But what happens when you add aminos. You said that was a bad thing in hydro, that’s what I’m trying to establish. I’ve added vitanimo for about two years and love the stuff so just trying to find out why it’s bad? I also just started using mega crop with aminos so is this a bad thing?

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microbes plummeted my pH AND turned my roots to mush, and I was only using 1/4 strength

Bernie420 said:

What did ole harley say that the problem was/is if you use amino's in hydro.

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I didn't ask him WHY, he simply responded that microbes turn into aminos

PetFlora said:

microbes plummeted my pH AND turned my roots to mush, and I was only using 1/4 strength

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I cant imagine tht microbes turned your roots to mush. The only time I get mush roots is late in flower and if my water was to hot then I add microbes to clean up my mush roots.