Advice needed my friends!

SO! Here is the dilemma I am facing. I am leaving for Shpongle in about 9 days. However my fellow road warrior just threw some random news at me. He only has 300 bux to take...300 bux!!! Gas calculation for my car is 215 bux ONE WAY and we were going to split gas so I dunno if I should let him go? Id feel bad him spending all his $$ on gas and getting out to Denver with 85 bux to spare, I mean wtf can he do? How much fun can he have with 85 bux left to spend ya know? My dad and I want to arrive a couple days before the show and stay a day or 2 after the show, but this dude wants us to cut all that out, leave Thursday night the 8th vs tuesday night the 6th then leave sunday 11th vs monday/tuesday the 12th/13th.....wtf do I do??? This use to be my ROAD WARRIOR! We trekked all over to Tool shows in 2012 and lost our minds!!!! And I assure you he took ALOT more than 300 bux! During one span we went from Toledo to Toronto to Boston to Connecticut to NJ to VA to NC! THEN in the same year went to St Paul to catch them at Rivers Edge!! Im unsure if I can in good consciousness let my buddy go across country with 300bux in his pocket, spending over 200 on gas! I have several hot hippie chicks I met online interested in tickets and riding with...what to do! what to do!?

This is our first time out west, for both my father and I. I want to make the best of it. In my buddies own words "I'm not going out for a vacation, I'm going out for a show" I feel I should of tried to convince him right then and there it was not a good idea to go. What prompted me to ask tonight was my Ol Man feeling a bit down and out about it. Being he already took off work, hes been spending time looking things up to see/do out there. It broke my heart when he said he would rather stay home than go out there for just a show. I feel my father and I will have a much better experience. Even if its just me tripping alone at the show. SO be it. I know the memories will be better with my dad there. I'll have them the rest of my life.

I was also considering using his ticket to "barter" with in the parking lot, spreading love ya know! My father is not interested in going, he more less wants to hike, check out hot springs, caves, mountains, etc etc etc and herb shops...of course lol! I feel if we do what my buddy wants it will damper both my father and I's experience having to rush rush rush.

We are going in my car, however if we go on the dates my friend wants to go then my father is not going. Then its up to him and I to fund the trip and hes only taking 300bones! Gas calculation for my car, its a 07 V6 Tiburon. Traveling from damn near PA, 20+ hr drive Is over 200 bux one way, around 215 to be exact. AHHH!

JJ05 said:

We are going in my car, however if we go on the dates my friend wants to go then my father is not going. Then its up to him and I to fund the trip and hes only taking 300bones! Gas calculation for my car, its a 07 V6 Tiburon. Traveling from damn near PA, 20+ hr drive Is over 200 bux one way, around 215 to be exact. AHHH!

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enjoy the trip with your pops, your buddy and u have had your fun at shows in the past right? do something a little different, somehow I think it'd be more enjoyable hiking, and exploring, than being at a show nearly the whole time. so u can be with your buddy, with you at a show the whole time, or your dad hiking and stuff, doesn't seem like both can come without there being discontent. If your friend really wants to go just let him know u plan to spend a fair amount of time there with your dad, and he'd be alone at the show. even if your with your dad most of the time, u can still spend some time at the show and meet some folks there

Mr.Marijuana420 said:

enjoy the trip with your pops, your buddy and u have had your fun at shows in the past right? do something a little different, somehow I think it'd be more enjoyable hiking, and exploring, than being at a show nearly the whole time. so u can be with your buddy, with you at a show the whole time, or your dad hiking and stuff, doesn't seem like both can come without there being discontent. If your friend really wants to go just let him know u plan to spend a fair amount of time there with your dad, and he'd be alone at the show. even if your with your dad most of the time, u can still spend some time at the show and meet some folks there

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Oh I am going to the show lol. However as previously stated my father and I wish to leave the night of the 6th, arrive in Denver the 7th and leave the 12th or 13h. My friend however wants to leave the night of the 8th and leave right after the show, night of the 10th or morning of the 11th.. This kind of bummed my dad out, being he already took vacation days off from work for the 7-14th he basically said if my buddy wants to leave the 8th then hes not going bc that already cutting into 2 days of his vacation time plus shortening the trip we originally had planned. You are correct, my friend and I had fun at previous shows.

Why is your no-car-havin' and no-money-havin' friend dictating anything?

You focus should be on hanging with your Dad. That's precious limited time right there.

HelpHub said:

Why is your no-car-havin' and no-money-havin' friend dictating anything?

You focus should be on hanging with your Dad. That's precious limited time right there.

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Damn right man! I dont care if I have to trip alone at the show, Id rather spend the days with my father and have them memories for the rest of my life. My friend, however, will probably not stick around in my life forever like my father will, even if only in memory, my dad will always outweigh my friend. Now it would be a plus to have someone to trip with at the show, perhaps I can convince him to eat some mushrooms with me Me and the ol man tripping in the mountains! I am in the process of trying to find someone on the shpongle groups to take my "friends" place. Someone who can leave the days my father and I originally planned with this dude lol. You know whats funnier? This maniac just sprung this on his boss! Who the hell plans a trip 6 months ago, only has 300 bux to take come the time to leave OH and tells his work/boss about the trip the week before the show? WTF LOL!?

seems pretty self centered all the way around..
ass,gas,or grass..nobody rides for free.
on tour hed be put to work at the show!
tbh,at this point id just go with my dad and no one else...

rory420420 said:

seems pretty self centered all the way around..
ass,gas,or grass..nobody rides for free.
on tour hed be put to work at the show!
tbh,at this point id just go with my dad and no one else...

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Oh I am dude! I am sure it will be a magical time with my father. Plus the memories I will cherish for the rest of my life Thanks Rory!

i tried to get my dad to go to shows,it took a payed job to bonnaroo i hooked him up with before he saw the fun in it..summer after he was on tour! lol..made it to wisconsin i think..

rory420420 said:

i tried to get my dad to go to shows,it took a payed job to bonnaroo i hooked him up with before he saw the fun in it..summer after he was on tour! lol..made it to wisconsin i think..

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Dude that sounds AWESOME! Im unsure if my old man is going to the show or not, he may. He mainly wants to hike and check out the shops, shit like that. How cool would it be if I got him to trip with me!? Have you ever tripped alone at a show? If I have to, I'll brave it!

ive tripped alone many shows..much more
enjoyable imo...never tripped with my dad..been around him when hes tripping,and hes def been around me tripping...
id make a deal with your old man..come to the show with me,ill go ranger rick with you!
then retire to a shop and see who can take the most dabs in 10 mins!lol

rory420420 said:

ive tripped alone many shows..much more
enjoyable imo...never tripped with my dad..been around him when hes tripping,and hes def been around me tripping...
id make a deal with your old man..come to the show with me,ill go ranger rick with you!
then retire to a shop and see who can take the most dabs in 10 mins!lol

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Haha man that is awesome! Your dad and mine sound alot alike. Your making me pretty hype for this show now!! I usually trip at shows with a friend but hell, I trip by myself quite often here with my dog, how different can it be at a show? I remember living with my parents and my dad discovering my herb plants haha. He told me I was overwatering them! I thought FOR SURE my ass was grass! BUT! He reacted the complete opposite of what I thought! I knew from that point on I was in good hands!

have you ever been to a show tripping at all?

rory420420 said:

have you ever been to a show tripping at all?

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Omg man, I LOST MY MIND at Rivers Edge Music Festival when I seen Tool in St Paul MN in 2012. My buddy who was supposed to go with me to see Shpongle, we each ate 5 hits dude! That was WAYYY to much for a fest/concert setting! I was a MESSSS dude a MESSS lol! But before that incident I would eat a couple grams of boomz. During the Show at Mohegan Sun in CT we had some mescaline extract, that got pretty fucking wild! Not nearly as bad as the 5 hits in St Paul tho! The only shows I ever tripped at was Tool shows. What would you personally recommend for this show/setting?

I wont get too far into details, but we met up with these dudes after the show, who my buddy invited back to the hotel room. I remember us trying to go swimming man! AND BAM! The way these dudes were splashing eachother seemed SOOO GAY they would splash eachother and laugh in what seemed to be a strobe light motion! I asked my buddy if he was getting in the pool with me and he was like no man! I have no dry clothe to change into after! THEN INSTANTLY I was convinced he invited these dudes to the pool room to murder/rape me! I am unsure in which order lmao! Long story short security ended up getting called and I was like THANK GOD YOU GUYS ARE HERE! This poor security guard was dumb founded! He had NO idea wtf he just walked into. He spent like an hour AFTER his shift just being chill with me, trying to get me to put my clothe back on and leave the pool room LOL. I was sooo cool with him when I seen him tho, he was like my safety net against the murder/rape or rape/murder plot that was about to commence....fuck man! Weird thing is. I was so spun at the show off the 5 hits I barely remember much of the show bc I was spending time staring at the sky and looking around, talking to people, dancing, having a GOOD TIME! But after the show...SHIT GOT REAL! REAL QUICK! I dunno why my buddy would invite 2 dudes back to our room to hang with us lol! I guess they were tripping aswell, but dude! I was CONVINCED they were up to something sinister once he said he was not getting in the pool with me and them. I was like WTF DUDE! " you know I have a family back home brother! THEY KNOW IM WITH YOU!" "WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS MAN!" LOL oh, good lord....it was the craziest trip I ever had....EVER!

its waaay more involved at these types of shows..tool is awesome,but their shows are pretty cut and dry..come on stage,wreck shit for an hour and a half and go home ..lol..its not a show but an experience!..youll see..get spun and enjoy being able to smoke freely!

rory420420 said:

its waaay more involved at these types of shows..tool is awesome,but their shows are pretty cut and dry..come on stage,wreck shit for an hour and a half and go home ..lol..its not a show but an experience!..youll see..get spun and enjoy being able to smoke freely!

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DUDE! Aside from the INSANE visual show Tool provides they are kinda cut and dry! Check out this vid around 2:09....their visual show is INTENSE! and I agree I cant wait to experience this! Did you read the post above this lmao! I know now 5 hits is WAYYY too much for a show setting, or do you think it was just the Tool setting?

ive seen them a few times..this will be a long show most likely..and very different than most shows...people will be friendly and wanna jam with you,jnstead of staying in their seats like at a bingo hall..