Adding 600w hps to 315cmh - Vertically

JDMase

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Left to right of the skywalker kush trio. And a close up of the 3rd plants left cola.

Looking around 50/50 clear cloudy on the topmost buds so I will be chopping soon. Maybe a week?

Just an update for anyone interested in this grow.

I also "topped" the right plant and kept the middle and left natural to see if I got any yield differences between them.
 

gr865

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JD,
I just started flush, going to do up to a 7 day, but prob. will just be 4 to 5 days.
I am watering 6 times a light cycle so should clean the root system out very well.
I am using 2 ppm rain water with 1 ml Cal/Magic, 0.75 grams of Epsom and 0.4 ml DripClean. pH'ed to 5.8.
Have not seen buds get smaller during flush, that is strange.

GR
 

JDMase

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Flushing is for toilets
Yeah I know. Usually I taper off nutes but people kept saying to do it so I did and my plants just looked worse after the second day. Not sure that flushing the root zone can make any positive differences to the flowers. In mine they were less hard and dense and seemed smaller and more squishy/fluffy.
In my opinion once the flowers are formed there's no changing their makeup with just plain water. We really need less bro science in this industry
 
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OneHitDone

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Flushing is for toilets
Your Schwag may sell in Colorado but it would sit on the shelf in Cali, obviously have never had a proper finish

Yeah I know. Usually I taper off nutes but people kept saying to do it so I did and my plants just looked worse after the second day. Not sure that flushing the root zone can make any positive differences to the flowers. In mine they were less hard and dense and seemed smaller and more squishy/fluffy.
In my opinion once the flowers are formed there's no changing their makeup with just plain water. We really need less bro science in this industry
Your not changing the make up of the flowers by using water only towards the end. The key is "grow in the absence of nutrients", allowing the plant to consume all of the stored nutrients from within it's own tissues and the goal is to have nice even fade right at the end if your timing is proper.
Test one plant against others that you did not flush and do a burn test yourself in a clean white joint paper. You will be like "WTF", this burns soo much better and tastes cleaner allowing the true flavor of the bud to shine through.
Obviously if your just using your material for extraction and not igniting the dry matter it won't make a difference
 

JDMase

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Your Schwag may sell in Colorado but it would sit on the shelf in Cali, obviously have never had a proper finish


Your not changing the make up of the flowers by using water only towards the end. The key is "grow in the absence of nutrients", allowing the plant to consume all of the stored nutrients from within it's own tissues and the goal is to have nice even fade right at the end if your timing is proper.
Test one plant against others that you did not flush and do a burn test yourself in a clean white joint paper. You will be like "WTF", this burns soo much better and tastes cleaner allowing the true flavor of the bud to shine through.
Obviously if your just using your material for extraction and not igniting the dry matter it won't make a difference
I'm inclined to think the White ash burn is from roll to roll depending on material wetness. I've rolled up the same material and sometimes it burns better than others. And I know I've rolled up some wet stuff it's burnt crap and I grind up some more material and let it air out before rolling and get white ash. It may be in part to what you're saying but I think there's other variables in play too if you get me I'm high and rambling
 

OneHitDone

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I'm inclined to think the White ash burn is from roll to roll depending on material wetness. I've rolled up the same material and sometimes it burns better than others. And I know I've rolled up some wet stuff it's burnt crap and I grind up some more material and let it air out before rolling and get white ash. It may be in part to what you're saying but I think there's other variables in play too if you get me I'm high and rambling
Tried many different flush durations here with many testers bro - it makes a very noticeable difference. If you or any of the folks consuming your flower are the "connoisseur" type the difference will definitely be noted :hump:
 

JDMase

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Tried many different flush durations here with many testers bro - it makes a very noticeable difference. If you or any of the folks consuming your flower are the "connoisseur" type the difference will definitely be noted :hump:
I got u man. I'm gonna dry and cure my stuff and I'll get back to u on the White ash. Do u think a flush and 48 hours darkness before chop would be enough to get the "connoisseur" result?
 

pinner420

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I got u man. I'm gonna dry and cure my stuff and I'll get back to u on the White ash. Do u think a flush and 48 hours darkness before chop would be enough to get the "connoisseur" result?
What ec did you run them at? That might be a good measure for flush duration...
 

JDMase

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dont forget a smoke report back to us
Will do, I had to do an extended dry due to heat issues. I kept stems and leaves intact for the first week to protect flowers. Loosely trimmed and hung for a further 2 then put into jars.. They were trimmed and de-stemmed yesterday and are now curing with boveda 62% on hand if needed. What I have smoked of the slightly wet stuff is very enjoyable. An intense soaring high which lasts way longer than anything else I've had. The flavours aren't great just yet due to the wetness but the smell is potent pear drop smell, I put that down partly do the use of cmh and hps. If I had lower temps during flower i think I'd of had even more terpenes.

The mother plant is beig flowered now and is already bigger in week 1 than the 3 I chopped at harvest. This'll be my last run of it whilst I move onto some of tony greens gorilla line but I'm going to be using sts to create some s1's on the off chance I want to run again.

I'll report back once the cure is done.
 
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