AACT, Bloom Tea, Veg Tea, Fungal Tea, Myco Tea, recipes from the outdoor guys.

ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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papapayne said:
I've heard, never used one though. That a compost tea bag will hold the debris together so it wont clog blumat lines, and foliage prayers. I see them at nurseries, and grow,stores. They look like an all mesh bubble bag almost. Might be the ticket,for,ya to use blumats with tea.
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i'd say just water in the tea. blumat will sense the extra moisture in the pot and stop dripping h2o. one thing i may do as well is close the cap a little tighter on the blumat a day or two before i plan to drench the tea, so it dries up a little better and i'm not oversaturating the medium. haven't tried this yet, but seems logical. just rather not deal with worrying about clogs, or cleaning/changing lines and what not. straight h2o for now anyway...
 
Dr.D81

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I always liked hand applying the teas so i can get the particulates to. Anything that makes it in settles as top dressing and the stuff that is still in the bottom of the trah can goes to the worms.
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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I need a tea to wet my soil down so it can age, what do you think? I dont have seaweed or fish hydrolize. I also only have a small bucket, air stone/pump (44.3 GPH,) and panty hose to make the tea for now.
I have..
Alfalfa
Kelp
Crab Shell
Fish bone
Compost
Ewc
Blackstrap
Dynagro protekt

Looking to order aloe, and the fish/kelp/seaweed mix
 
Dr.D81

Dr.D81

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Kind Sir said:
i need a tea to wet my soil down so it can age, what do you think? I dont have seaweed or fish hydrolize. I also only have a small bucket, air stone/pump (44.3 GPH,) and panty hose to make the tea for now.
I have..
Alfalfa
Kelp
Crab Shell
Fish bone
Compost
Ewc
Blackstrap
Dynagro protekt

Looking to order aloe, and the fish/kelp/seaweed mix
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Only thing with a small air pump is to keep your over all volume low. I would brew it in a 2lt bottle or 1/2 gal milk jug with the top cut off. Brew it strong and mix that in to more water to apply.
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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Dr.D81 said:
Only thing with a small air pump is to keep your over all volume low. I would brew it in a 2lt bottle or 1/2 gal milk jug with the top cut off. Brew it strong and mix that in to more water to apply.
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Ok man thanks. So for now, I can just put the air stone in the jug/bucket, put ingredients in panty hose in the container and bubble?
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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So there are teas for veg, flower, and then AACT which are for microbial boosts?

Why would one want to brew bact. dominate opposed to fungi dominate? I want to start a brew tonight for my veg plants, like a microbial boost mainly.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Kind Sir said:
So there are teas for veg, flower, and then AACT which are for microbial boosts?

Why would one want to brew bact. dominate opposed to fungi dominate? I want to start a brew tonight for my veg plants, like a microbial boost mainly.
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cannabis is a plant that thrives more in a bacterial soil as opposed to a fungal dom soil. but there are still both types of organism in nature in bacterial soils, so this is why we use both.

the fungi, i just do the myco dust on the roots right at transplant. AACT is for the bacterial teas. nutrient teas can also produce bacterial colonies, but also contain the nutrients, which are more for lighter amended soils imo.

im by no means a tea expert and there are much more knowledgeable folks on here.

EDIT: fungi are masters at providing plants with available phosphorus and water too.
 
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BigDoobie

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Can I put mosquito dunks in my compost tea? I'm brewing one right now with just compost and kelp. Would it work the same if putting the dunks in a sprayer?
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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BigDoobie said:
Am I missing out on anything if I dont brew veg or bloom teas? I've done a few in the past but figured I can just top dress whatever it is I'm brewing instead. Just takes a bit longer to be effective but anything I'm missing? I'm only referring to veg and bloom teas.
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It all depends on your soil. If it's well amended, then there is no need for nutrient teas. If your soil is well colonized (by using a good source of compost/vermicompost), then there is no need to apply compost teas. I have been using just water for quite some time now, and my plants are as healthy and productive as they've ever been.

Having said that, there really is no harm in applying teas.... especially if there is something lacking in your soil. Us growers like to tinker, so if brewing teas helps you sleep at night by all means do it! I just don't feel it's necessary.
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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Is there a thorough thread on teas or anything? I dont want to ask questions unless nec3ssary, rather read myself and ask if I have to.

I want to learn more about teas, I hsve Teaming with Microbes but havnt gotten too far in it yet. Last night I did my first tea..

Cut top off gallon water jug. Put in just over a half gallon non chlorine water. I used..

Just under half cup EWC and just under half cup Compost.
Real small dash of alfalfa and kelp. Honestly forgot the BSM as it was super late and wash rushing, should I add it when I get home in a hr? Like a teaspoon? Or is the meals good enough for microbe food?
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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yeah add the BSM. add probably a tablespoon, as you'll be diluting this tea to stretch it further correct? they (microbes) prefer the sugars and will populate fast with the BSM. the meals are nice because they add a little dissolved food into your tea, as well as some other things like growth hormones from the alfalfa, and enzymes and micros from the kelp.
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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ShLUbY said:
yeah add the BSM. add probably a tablespoon, as you'll be diluting this tea to stretch it further correct? they (microbes) prefer the sugars and will populate fast with the BSM. the meals are nice because they add a little dissolved food into your tea, as well as some other things like growth hormones from the alfalfa, and enzymes and micros from the kelp.
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Im actually not sure what to do when it comes to diluting it. This batch was going to be sprayed onto my "cooking" soil tonight, is 24hr enough? I read that kelp has negative effects on microbes until its brewed for 24hr.

After I use this one on my soil, Im going to make another tea for my veg plants. Im transplanting two plants from 2gal smarts to 7gallon smart pots (my plan is to buy the blue 7gallon bags from walmart for the other plants, dont have time to wait for shipping and read they work just the same as smart pots?)

I dont have any beneficials for the transplant, except an older bottle of "Root Dip - Microbe Life Hydroponics" brand.
 
ShLUbY

ShLUbY

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Kind Sir said:
Im actually not sure what to do when it comes to diluting it. This batch was going to be sprayed onto my "cooking" soil tonight, is 24hr enough? I read that kelp has negative effects on microbes until its brewed for 24hr.

After I use this one on my soil, Im going to make another tea for my veg plants. Im transplanting two plants from 2gal smarts to 7gallon smart pots (my plan is to buy the blue 7gallon bags from walmart for the other plants, dont have time to wait for shipping and read they work just the same as smart pots?)

I dont have any beneficials for the transplant, except an older bottle of "Root Dip - Microbe Life Hydroponics" brand.
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bene's come from the tea. they'll be ok until you can brew another tea for them. i would use the myco dust during transplant right on the roots when you pull them out of their current pot.

24 is ok, but 36 is better most likely. if you just added the BSM... i'd probably wait another 24h if it were me. and honestly, i would use the tea you have now for your veg plants since you have the kelp and alfalfa in there. the soil you're going to cook doesn't need the alfalfa or kelp in the tea. just EWC + BSM. it's fine to water in your cooking soil with the tea you have though. and make sure you moisten the soil well, but not to the point where it requires any run off.

i believe you have a small air pump and small container you're making tea in, yes? you could make a more concentrated tea, with 2tbsp of BSM in one gallon h2o, and 1 cup of EWC/Compost, and then when the tea is done add 2 gallons of RO to it, and you have 3 gal of good microbial tea.
 
Kind Sir

Kind Sir

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ShLUbY said:
bene's come from the tea. they'll be ok until you can brew another tea for them. i would use the myco dust during transplant right on the roots when you pull them out of their current pot.

24 is ok, but 36 is better most likely. if you just added the BSM... i'd probably wait another 24h if it were me. and honestly, i would use the tea you have now for your veg plants since you have the kelp and alfalfa in there. the soil you're going to cook doesn't need the alfalfa or kelp in the tea. just EWC + BSM. it's fine to water in your cooking soil with the tea you have though. and make sure you moisten the soil well, but not to the point where it requires any run off.

i believe you have a small air pump and small container you're making tea in, yes? you could make a more concentrated tea, with 2tbsp of BSM in one gallon h2o, and 1 cup of EWC/Compost, and then when the tea is done add 2 gallons of RO to it, and you have 3 gal of good microbial tea.
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Yes just a 44.3 gallon per hour pump. Good idea on making a strong tea and diluting it. Thanks for taking the time to reply I appreciate it. I used such a small amount of kelp/alfalfa Im going to add the BSM and wait another 24HR and water the cooking soil. Thanks bud.
 
norcal mmj

norcal mmj

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So I just started teas this year. At first I just used my extra soil that I make. Now I'm doing a compost/ewc tea. I was wondering what ever one likes to use in bloom teas ? I'm using aloe, molasses, mycos and humic in my mix.
 
PopTop

PopTop

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Hey Guys, I have my first batch of organic soil cooking, never tried organics, have always been a chemical nute grower and fed up with Phing, nute burn and all the other headaches of growing weed that way. I also have a batch of pro-mix ultimate organic soil with ewc's and perlite added that I'm gonna grow my next batch in till my soil is done cooking. My question is although I have a lot of chemical nutes still left (but really don't want to use), can I use teas instead of the chemicals for this type of soil (pro-mix ultimate organic). I've searched RIU for an answer but haven't found one yet. I don't think it would hurt seeing as its organic but would like some opinions on this. Thanks in advance
 
guardogz

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hey top. props to you coming over to the organic side. re your super soil my experience has been that it ends up a bit hot, esp for seedlings and clones. the pro mix also sounds full of good stuff. point is that both soils may feed your girls just fine for a month or more. and you may only need good water(correct ph and ppm) your plants will let u know if they need somethin. so u might try a bacteria tea that s low on ferts. i enjoy making teas they re fun. i recycle my soil. in the 1.5 months of growing all i ve used is rainwater. in the past i would ve hit em w a veg tea by now. but since they re healthy and doing well... just water. just one way to crack this nut. good luck man
 
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