5 years - - Was it worth it?

BryanG1983

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Good Day!

Well it has now been 5 years since the war in Iraq began, just looking for a civil discussion as to you think it was worth it or not.

Remember....CIVIL:hump:
 
those were the first to go...and still going...CIVILians


and still the white phosporus falls from planes on those poor iraqi's

support bringin the troops back home and leaving that evil bastard Bush in the history books as the worst leader the world has seen aside from hitler
 
It has been a mess from the start. So many troops from all over the world helping with Bush's terrorist regime.

5 years for what? Yeah they got Suddam who killed 1000's but is that not what Bush is doing now?
 
but unfortunately there are still enough american's who are subdued by him saying, don't you remember 9/11?

doesn't anyone remember OSAMA??????

for fucks sake, he is the terrorist we started this shit for where the hell is he?

fuck sadaam fuck Iraq, 9/11 was terrible i watched it live i saw people jumping from the towers i felt deep anger towards those who did this, but the iraqi's had nothing to do with it, sadamm was bad, but we shoulda left as soon as he had been captured, and even then we disrupted the balance of power in Iraq which ultimately threw the whole mid east into a state of constant war-

read the sig, if this continues then revolution will be the only proper action to right this terrible wrong
 
The middle east is always going to be in a battle/war as they have no structure and have constant powers trying to throw there own government.

9-11- as well as all the other attacks Bin Laden has tried to carry out all over the world seen to be on the back burner whilst the fight for oil continues.
 
I just found this on the BBC website.

Direct costs: $750bn
Future direct costs: $500bn
Cost of US casualties: $600bn
Losses to economy: $400bn
Added interest: $600bn
Macro-economic impact: $1-$2 trillion

Now that is just America, what about all the other countries involved?
 
pretty much mate, it is only getting worse as well.

In the UK it has been anounced in the new budget that more ££££ is getting made for the war. I understand the guys out there need the best materials and best weapons but after we blow it to fuck we then rebuild it!!
 
Osama caused 9/11 because King Saud gave the contract to clean up Iraq to the Americans. Osama thought he should be the one to do it.

The Kuwait issue in 1991 started all this.

But if America was not in debt to the whole world they would not have needed King Saud's oil and money.

It just keeps going back in time the more you look at it.

If US pulls out, then who is going to pay the US debt that King Saud is paying?

Its catch-22. No choices really. Feel terrible for the GI's on the ground, and the civilians too.

I blame the war on drugs. If all drugs were legal, then the US would be able to pay off its debts in a less violent way.
 
You mean Bush 9/11. There is no doubt in my mind that Bush himself hired them to blow up the builings. Watch the video. Have you ever watched a construction team implode a building? thats what they look like when they come down. there is no way a plane crashing into the top of the tower would make it come down like that. It was done from the inside of the building the plane crash was his excuse to go to war. Because the world trades center is targeting the whole world not just the USA that way he figured everyone would be in favor.
 
i have an idea lets make a terrorist attack but get someone from the middle east to take the heat! o wait nevermind its been done.
 
I'm with fish-guy, this shit's stupid, and if anybody could grow weed, america would be making billions within hours of it being legalized
 
Its was a mess from the start by all means... The worst part about it we can't just leave there like everyone wants us too if we could that would be awesome but we can't leave there now unfortunately and that fucking suckls I havea lot of friends over there!!
 
This should be in the Politics section, and once there, I shall reveal my thoughts on it, but I try to keep as mellow as I can on Toke and Talk
 
This was supposed to be an In and Out job.

$250 Billion and a couple years. We'll pay for the cost with Iraqi oil revenue.

Anyone who questioned otherwise were dismissed as "severely misinformed" "traitors, doubting thomas's"


We know who were misinformed now.

When you look at the mistakes they made from the first two years, you realize 1 of 2 things.
1) They had no fukking clue and were lying about what they thought they knew.
or
2) Knew what we we're getting into and played off/Lied about what we were really getting into..

Bush Jr. = Worst President Ever.
 

not to be a stereotype, but I'm Arabic and I love my track pants Sandals and tanktops...but yea saw that awhile ago, great vid

also I recall many reports from the actual day(9/11) saying that 9 Israeli citizens had been arrested for taking pics with the towers burning behind them, and holding lighters up in the foreground....some others were arrested in one of the tunnels and bomb sniffing dogs alerted on their van...this completely disappeared from the media within 24 hours....interesting, though anything said since then about cover ups and shit is regarded as conspiracy theories and ignored.
 
Ok, no one has mentioned this but there is another point; of many of course. This in no way is to imply me condoning the war, but only something that needs to be pointed out. I am going to start with the WTC. Now, all I hear is how terrible it is that all the firemen and policemen that were killed that day. One thing I never hear about is all the innocent lives lost, such as Joe Schmoe that was just going to work that day, just his typical 9 to 5 job. These people are the ones that I truly feel sorry for. Their lives do not even come close to even a possibility in their daily thoughts of something like that to happen to them that day. I mean other than the normal hazards of daily life what in the world would ever make one consider this ever happening and something to be on the alert about, these people were more concerned about getting hit by a bike messenger.

While I do feel sorry for all the families of the firemen, policemen, and soldiers there is something else. All of these brave and courageous men and women that died and are still dieing signed up for the job. Nobody twisted their arm or forced them into a public service lifestyle. When they signed on, they knew the risks. Danger is inherent to these types of jobs.

Why do I hardly ever hear anything about the civilians?

I know this may have ruffled some feathers, but I feel comfortable in saying it. I served my country, my job had specific dangers as well. Stationed on an aircraft carrier and working on the flight deck is not a very safe job in itself. But I loved it, even though I had to have my head on swivel at all times. I have seen people die, some were my best friends and some I did not even know. I feel sorry for their families and I miss my friends, but they knew the risks of doing what they did. They loved it to, they loved doing their part in protecting those civilians that were just on their way to their cubical, and they loved this country as much as I do, even though its all fucked up right now.
 
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