45 days for ALL dispensaries in CA to close

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Matt,
Yeah, whatever! Just like Nixon had nothing to do with Watergate, it was just his own party members? Kind of the not your brothers keeper excuse? I never believed Nixon, I certainly don't believe Obama. Where's Obama with his best friend, the Teleprompter of the United States, stuttering his buttocs off, "I uh uh uh 'bama am horrified the DEA made a mockery of my stance on medical marijuana. I'm ashamed legitimate medicine is being taken away from Californians." By not doing so, he's the same do nothing loser he's known for. Proving he's only the debonair, long legged mack daddy. So yes it's, now, 100% his fault. He has the best stuttering fat loud mouth in the whole country. Whatever he says interrupts even the Super Bowl's winning touch down. Yet he's silent. He's not our friend, atleast not mine. He's the enemy and could care less about what he said before.
Wow, that is so irrational and silly its not really worth a response. But you called my name so here I am.

No, the dispensaries getting shutdown is not comparable to watergate, at all. Way to use over the top rhetoric to discredit yourself from the start.

"Believe Obama"? Well nothing I posted was from Obama so there is nothing to believe or disbelieve. Did you even read the article or just posting how you really feel instead of what you know?

"do nothing" Yeah, if you think Obama is sticking his neck out for mmj, so the right can crucify him as weak on drugs, you must have very little understanding of politics. Obama doesn't give a shit about mmj, never did, he is a politician. If you believed the hope/change BS then you were drinking the koolaid. Expect him to be a politician and act like a politician because he is a politician.

"Debonair long legged mack daddy": you must be some short fat lonely dude to be hating like that. its kinda funny tho, artistic word choice. Would you prefer our president look like Dick Cheney? Old fat white guy with a bad heart like the rest of our president.

"100% his fault" dude you are just laughable. That makes less than ZERO sense. You seem to have nothing to say but really want to run your mouth. Try forming some opinions based on facts instead of just how you feel. You will get farther in life that way. You should've said 110% just to make it even more ridiculous. ;)
 

kbo ca

Active Member
Wow, that is so irrational and silly its not really worth a response. But you called my name so here I am.

No, the dispensaries getting shutdown is not comparable to watergate, at all. Way to use over the top rhetoric to discredit yourself from the start.

"Believe Obama"? Well nothing I posted was from Obama so there is nothing to believe or disbelieve. Did you even read the article or just posting how you really feel instead of what you know?

"do nothing" Yeah, if you think Obama is sticking his neck out for mmj, so the right can crucify him as weak on drugs, you must have very little understanding of politics. Obama doesn't give a shit about mmj, never did, he is a politician. If you believed the hope/change BS then you were drinking the koolaid. Expect him to be a politician and act like a politician because he is a politician.

"Debonair long legged mack daddy": you must be some short fat lonely dude to be hating like that. its kinda funny tho, artistic word choice. Would you prefer our president look like Dick Cheney? Old fat white guy with a bad heart like the rest of our president.

"100% his fault" dude you are just laughable. That makes less than ZERO sense. You seem to have nothing to say but really want to run your mouth. Try forming some opinions based on facts instead of just how you feel. You will get farther in life that way. You should've said 110% just to make it even more ridiculous. ;)
booooo yaaaahhhh
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=LvUziSfMwAw

"I won't be using Justice Department resources to circumvent state laws."

Yeah, you're right, it's not right to compare this to Watergate. Nixon didn't use not endorsing illegal break ins as a political platform to get ellected.

Http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=uET6jSKfdhQ

I'm not the one who came up with the long legged mack daddy, he did.

If you want to call 5'11" and 180 pounds, fat and short, be my guest.

I never insulted you like you did me. I just called out bs on your Obama cheerleading. Someone doesn't post an article like that unless they're making excuses. Both you and Obama try to live a life you aren't. I'm a real vegan, not some poser "vegan dope" user. I'm proud of who I am and never make excuses. What's really silly is making excuses for others when they don't hold your same beliefs when it comes to letting people survive. Unless you don't hold high value on mmj and consider it dangerous, using it's danger status to exploit its profit potential? I personally have bipolar and would die without mmj to control my emotions. Anyone who would dare take away the only method I have to live, gets no excuses, no matter their reasons.
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
Only , those who drink the kool aid follow Obummer, the worst white excuse for a man & to be called president ! Can you believe the ignorance of his followers, even saying he had little to do with going back on his word as to legal dispensaries allowed by states ? His social agenda does not fit in our country nor does being against small business & trying to spend yourself out of debt.

He should read & follow our Constitution & not try to find ways around it. 'nuff said
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=LvUziSfMwAw

"I won't be using Justice Department resources to circumvent state laws."

Yeah, you're right, it's not right to compare this to Watergate. Nixon didn't use not endorsing illegal break ins as a political platform to get ellected.

Http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=uET6jSKfdhQ

I'm not the one who came up with the long legged mack daddy, he did.

If you want to call 5'11" and 180 pounds, fat and short, be my guest.

I never insulted you like you did me. I just called out bs on your Obama cheerleading. Someone doesn't post an article like that unless they're making excuses. Both you and Obama try to live a life you aren't. I'm a real vegan, not some poser "vegan dope" user. I'm proud of who I am and never make excuses. What's really silly is making excuses for others when they don't hold your same beliefs when it comes to letting people survive. Unless you don't hold high value on mmj and consider it dangerous, using it's danger status to exploit its profit potential? I personally have bipolar and would die without mmj to control my emotions. Anyone who would dare take away the only method I have to live, gets no excuses, no matter their reasons.
LMAO, yeah, posting recent and relevant news from huffington post is "making excuses". What a silly thought. Oh you are bipolar... would have never guessed it... :rolleyes:
 

SmoochieBoochies

Well-Known Member
Earlier today...
I mean honestly how long did Cali think they could get more and more brazen in their snubbing of the Feds' laws before they shut everything down? As the 'war on terror' winds down, the drug war that has been left idle for ten years is going to ramp up again. The Fed is not going to legalize mj, period. The Right, big Industry, big Alcohol, and big Pharma have and are going to continue to block any national attempts at legalization. Police/prison/jail guard unions, lawyers, and a huge, burgeoning support industry surrounding the criminality of mj lobby against legalization as well. That's why I tend to laugh when I see the tag line "Legal Grow" in a grow thread. Your grow isn't legal, period. Never was never will be. States can only pass laws that strengthen federal laws, not weaken them. So keep it stealth growers and best wishes.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Bro we are all bipolar or something. Thats why we are on the internet. Weed + bipolar + internet = good combo.

Politics don't care about our conditions. Thats from city council all the way up.

6 minutes in is me at the shrink...
[video=youtube;l3PTNV0THy0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3PTNV0THy0[/video]
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
I get paid well, in cash, the rules don't apply to me, and I only work one day a month... that's what is so special. I got other grinds going on 9-5 lol. The best part is I get to medicate my students and give out free samples of my work... then get hired to private consult.
so what your saying is you dont really work there, you just come in once a month as a quest speaker....lol thats hardly being above the people that work there because you are just a quest speaker which is really below the people that work there....lol and we get payed in cash too.....lol
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
so what your saying is you dont really work there, you just come in once a month as a quest speaker....lol thats hardly being above the people that work there because you are just a quest speaker which is really below the people that work there....lol and we get payed in cash too.....lol
yeah i get paid 50 to 200/hour so... i suppose its how you look at it. special guest speaker vs budtender... hmmm. no contest.
 

FootClan

Well-Known Member
ya there is no contest you come in once a month and they work there everyday.....id say no contest as well....... we get vendors and special guest speakers too and they always think they are special so you are no exception really
 

silouan

Well-Known Member
I guess my 3 1000w garden will be tripling its value over night if the clubs shut down.......Sucks for all the sick people who cant afford those prices..... Its almost like the feds hate sick people and they also seem to hate collecting taxes on it eather..... They rather sick people die and drug dealers profit all while not getting any tax money from it??? I dont see how this benefits them i guess i just dont get.....
agreed. its insane, inhumane, and downright criminal. history will one day judge the stupidity of our current DEA.
 

kbo ca

Active Member
agreed. its insane, inhumane, and downright criminal. history will one day judge the stupidity of our current DEA.
there are many hopefull people that forsee change. But if you truly look at the circumstances, there is way too much money to be made if it is kept illegal. If folks started growing their own medicine, and fuel in their back yard and learned to convert to ethanol (which isn't very hard) we could be completley self reliant in terms of medicine, and energy. Now how many jobs do you suppose would be lost over this?? when we run out of crude, i would put alll my chips on hemp fields everywhere.
 

Xoshua

Well-Known Member
No use arguing. 2012 is around the corner with new voters in the house. Obama won't get another round in power, ron paul looks promising. There's something I don't understand. There is more people than feds, why isn't there one huge group for legalization? We could get an office in each capital city to dismiss these issues with cannabis.

You guys can keep writing to the white house but they honestly won't change unless we start to build reputation and take the power back to people. I would be happy with regulation. We've already explained to feds all the money they are wasting from prisons, courts, police, dea, etc. Until we the people hold our ground and fight for what we deserve, it won't happen. I have american relatives and I believe americans to be very cultural and proud, which is awesome, but you guys need to take a stand. Violence won't solve this, we need to be smarter and more efficient.

This involves california, we need to get a hold of anonymous to make this fight even.
 

Xoshua

Well-Known Member
We have a higher number of people supporting legalization so how do we turn the table of power?
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
Got nothing to do with Obama, regardless of how much of a puppet he is.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-administration-medical-marijuana-crackdown-california_n_1033482.html


WASHINGTON -- U.S. attorneys have a message for California's medical marijuana advocates: Don't blame Barack Obama. After it was announced that the crackdown on medical pot establishments in the Golden State was a collective decision by the four U.S. attorneys in California and not the result of any directive from Washington, spokeswoman Lauren Horwood emphasized that the administration never even green-lighted the ramped-up enforcement actions.

The only D.C.-based official with whom California U.S. attorneys coordinated, Horwood said, was Deputy Attorney General James Cole, who was chosen by Attorney General Eric Holder, an Obama appointee.

"He's the one who provided the quote for our press release, and he's chosen by Eric Holder," Horwood told HuffPost in an interview. "But we didn't have direct talks with Eric Holder -- not that we wouldn't, he's been out and visited -- but just the way the Department of Justice works, he's not that hands-on on these kinds of details."

An article by Phoenix Times reporter Ray Stern claimed Horwood acknowledged that California's U.S. attorneys received "Obama's blessing" in implementing the crackdown. But in an interview with The Huffington Post, Horwood, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney Benjamin Wagner in California's Eastern District, distanced herself from that language.

"What I said, or at least meant to say, was that the U.S. Attorneys in California saw the need for coordinated enforcement actions and spoke with folks in Main Justice in D.C. (not the Obama Administration)," she told HuffPost in an email.

Cole declined to attend any California press conferences on the issue not, Horwood insisted, because he was distancing himself from the crackdown, but because California is a long way to travel.

California voters approved the use of medical marijuana in 1996 with the passage of Prop. 215, later named the Compassionate Use Act, which allows patients to possess and cultivate cannabis with a doctor's permission. The law has been interpreted many times since then. In City of Garden Grove v. Superior Court in 2007, the trial court sided with the patient, finding that it "is not the job of local police to enforce the federal drug law." A California Supreme Court ruling in 2010 found that residents may grow or possess "reasonable amounts" of marijuana with a doctor's permission.


But under federal law there are no such allowances.

Obama as a candidate promised to maintain a hands-off approach toward pot clinics that adhered to state law, with Attorney General Eric Holder publicly asserting that federal prosecutors would not initiate enforcement actions against any patients or providers in compliance with state law, deeming it an inefficient use of scarce government resources.

Such language didn't stop federal prosecutors from launching an attack on medical marijuana shop owners earlier this month, vowing to shutter state-licensed marijuana dispensaries regulated by local governments and threatening landlords with property seizures.

State Senator Mark Leno (D) has joined Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) in requesting meetings with the Department of Justice and the Internal Revenue Service to discuss the reasons behind the crackdown.

So far their requests have gone unanswered. "They're talking amongst themselves," said Ammiano of federal prosecutors, "and really causing tremendous, unnecessary chilling effects."

Steve DeAngelo of Oakland medical cannabis club Harborside Health Center said such effects may be the end goal.

"Federal prosecutors are not trying to clean up the regulated medical cannabis industry, they are trying to destroy it," he said at a Tuesday press conference in San Francisco. "Their real target is not criminal gangs, but rather the systems of licensing and regulation implemented by dozens of communities state-wide. This is destroying tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of millions of tax dollars in local, state and federal tax revenue."

The crackdown comes even as 50 percent of Americans favor legalizing marijuana, according to a recently released Gallup poll, up from just 36 percent in 2006.

When asked to respond to the claim that the Obama administration isn't implicated in the decision, Ammiano was indignant.

"Somebody's going to have to fall on their sword about this," he said. "This is becoming more of a mainstream issue. I mean, this was really a mistake."
Oh, it wasn't Obama, it was his employees. You drank too much Kool-aid.
 
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