400w HPS, LED, Wood Cab, Coco, Hempy, Multi Strain, Perpetual

Hello, welcome to my journal. I am currently in the process of getting everything dialed in.. it's still a work in progress but I wanted a way to get feedback. I've been experimenting and researching a lot, and I have a blue mystic mother that's been with me for probably about 2-3 months now, not exactly sure I'm sorry to say. She was stunted in a coffee container for awhile before I finally upgraded her to a bigger container, and then a few days ago I moved her into a 5 gallon bucket. I am vegging her for awhile longer until the roots descend into the bottom of her new home and I start to see the growth skyrocket.. this gives me time to get my old cabinet modified to take over vegetation.

I will be flowering under a 400w HPS and vegging under a Pro Grow 260 LED.

Eh, I will give more details later but for now I just want to get to uploading the pictures..

This is what you see from the front, don't mind the mess.


Discoloration on some of the leaves..


And she's all droopy.. I am hoping it was from lack of water and not overwatering. I fed/watered her today using full strength BC nutrients. I am going to give her a good flushing with canna a & b next time she needs water. I am switching nutrient lines to coco specific ones so I don't have to worry so much about amending hydro feeding formula for cal/mag deficiencies and salt buildup.. hopefully..


Thoughts, comments, questions, advice.. all are welcome as long as you've got a positive attitude.. and especially if you have experience in coco hempy grows using canna coco nutrients. I am comparing various feeding schedules right now.

Okay, so now that I'm well rested let me give you a little info..

This is the 2nd model of a custom wooden stealth grow cabinet. I did 1 major overhaul of the design to better utilize a "corner" space. My horrible craftsmanship and use of hand tools shows through much more than it did in my original rectangular model that will be used for vegging after some more modifications..






As soon as the harvest wrapped up, I started on building the new cabinet and started another blue mystic to be a mother plant for an attempt at a sog setup. I experimented with various custom hydroponic setups, had a ton of failed attempts at cloning with mist buckets, in coco, in rockwool.. things were not lookin good for me at all.. My dome tray started growing mildew and then one day my temp monitor slipped and fell into the water and it was 97.8 degrees. A little high, haha. No wonder everything was shriveling up and dying.. I've managed 4 clones in the first shot in the mist bucket and 1 with barely any root growth that looked like it was starting to shrivel up, I planted into a coco seed starter and managed to salvage. The rest I tried that with just died after a couple days in the dome.

I've got a fresh batch of 4 in "properly prepared" coco following cloning guides found at ICMag.com (wish this site had a coco specific forum).. did everything to it's specifications. 2 days in and they look healthy and green. Spraying them and domed them with B.C. Thrive Alive B1 Green, I believe it was, for those two days. Going to take the dome cups off tonight and there is no more misting, except to moisten the top layer of coco (since I am bottom feeding the clones to promote root growth) to prevent it from leeching nutrients and water back from the plant.. The domed cup clones are pictured in the above post.

My mother yesterday morning was showing signs of drooping. I thought at first it was from over watering, but if this thing is drinking at roughly the same rate it was before the transplant then there's no way. Maybe something wrong with the transplant coco (which as I discovered last night during another flush, was ABSURDLY higher PPM than I realized, will detail this a little later.. or she was just thirsty. So I fed her a slightly diluted mix of her normal food in a ring around where her old root zone should be hoping to both flush out some of what was there and feed her as well. Took the bucket out and tipped it into the drip pan to make sure the future 2" "root bed" in my hempy bucket wasn't saturating too much. I think I may lower the drain hole to 1.5, or enlarge the whole itself to 1" from it's center, making it about 1.75" off the bottom. Right now some bottom drainage would be beneficial to me, but I am trying to think of the future when that bottom of the bucket is filled with roots and I regret putting those drainage holes on the bottom because now the water all leaks into the drip pan and I am getting algae growth again. Oi. I switched to hempy buckets because I was sick of the algae growth associated with some of the other hydro methods I tried.. I didn't want to do perlite though because I wanted a buffer zone in case I had to be away for more than 2 days and I don't plant to setup an automated feeding system with a waste reservoir until after I build Cab V3.. which isn't going to be until I figure out all the downfalls left in V2.

So my current count is 5 blue mystics, 1 jock horror seedling/potential mother (though I'm not sure I like the pheno, seemed to stretch initially and is still growing slowly. Giving her a chance though. Once she fills the bottom of the gatorade bottle with roots I will start a diluted feeding of canna a & b. Right now she's been fed with 10ml Sugary Daddy and Root 66 in 1 gallon of ph'd filtered tap water, the same solution I flushed my clone coco with, very gentle but won't promote fast vegetative growth. Keeps her a light green shade with what might be a slight burn (or could have been a slight light burn from being under the 400hps for about a day, but I think not since she was about 30 inches from the light).

I had a failed Super Skunk seedling that I believe were oxygen deprived as well as drowned in very tightly packed coco container.. don't think the roots had a chance. I used a medium with additional drainage on the second jock horror and it was very slow to do much until I started feeding it with the rooting solution and now I see the roots starting to really take off in the bottom finally.

I am hesitant to start another skunk, because I just ordered more seeds from Attitude and I would like to give these Tangerine Dreams a try. Plus, I've been seeing a lot of skunky buds in the area lately. I really want to pick up some Plush Berry seeds but they were sold out at the time. That will be my next purchase though, definitely. In lieu of that (and to get to the next UFO freebie price cap) I purchased some Sub Cool Jilly Bean reg seeds, I liked the sound of her genetics and I may try my hand at collecting some pollen if I get a male and brushing it onto a branch or two of some flowering plants. I like the idea of Jilly Bean x Nirvana Blue Mystic a whole lot.

Okay, I have to stop writing about the grow and go do some work on it.. need to flush this batch of coco again to prep for transplant (the ppm I initially flushed was 2200+ and then second flushed was 1100+.. target zone 800-850 (with 150ppm filtered tap water)). I am keeping the runoff from the flush and going to pour it onto some bare patches along the walkway outside to see if it helps the grass. using drain to waste, I don't want to waste what drains.. so I am going to incorporate it into the outdoor garden on less important plants this summer.. but I don't have that up and running yet.

Okay.. the grow cab got up to 84 degrees this morning, I didn't realize it until I walked into the hallway outside my room and and realized how cold it was. I am switching it to 18/6 from 24/0 today to help the temps. For flower it's going to be a 12am on 12pm off cycle, to make cooling easier and to give me late night and early morning access.

So the high temp did me a favor and helped to dry up the medium the mother was in, she also was perking back up after yesterday's feeding/watering so I guess under watering (and as I suspected, nutrient buildup) was the problem. I am going to start monitoring the runoff more routinely than I had been before.. after all I've read about coco growing lately and the tendency to build up salt levels and the effect it has on certain macro and micro nutrients, I decided to take a look and see what I found? Big problems after all. The first 2 gallon flush off the mother was 2200 ppm, almost double what I'd been feeding so there must be unused build up of some nutrients the plant didn't need as much of. This explains the slow growth, but I knew I loved this pheno of her better than before.. she's MUCH more resilient and I definitely plan to veg one of her clones into a new mama when I flower her in a week (just want those roots to settle in the bottom, as I said in a previous post).

So I am now about to flush my little sog cooler grow as well at 850 ppm (150 ppm filtered tap) canna a+b as I see the roots are shooting down to the bottom very nicely now and if they like that in 2-3 days they will get 1000 as I move them into flower with mama. This is all provided that at least one of my other 4 clones takes, as I don't want to lose the mama's pheno. 4 was kind of an odd number to throw into the container, but one was from a second batch of clones and it was the only one that made it so I didn't want to start another container just for that and threw it in. I am hoping to see if the two outside with more root zone get larger than the ones in the middle that should end up sharing a more confined space. Either way they're going to flower in a week as well. Container is pictured in above post.

Clone sogs runoff @ 950+-5 ppm / 5.9 PH. I'm happy with that for now.700ppm of freshly flushed nutrients shouldn't be too much I hope. I also put some hydroton on top of the them to help prevent the top layer of coco from drying out so quickly in the new light.

Mother's runoff was @ 1405+-5 ppm/ 5.8 PH when I stopped. Going to up her nutes on the next dose though. That's low for her I think.

I used to ph to 6.0 but I am trying to bring them all to a stable 5.7-5.8 so they're right on track. That seems to be the favorable range to prevent lockout of various nutrients on coco, or so I've read.. We shall see..

I have an Icebox Heat Exchanger I am hoping to get up and running. On a 400w light it should work to air condition my room slightly. I'm torn about the purchase of the water chiller though though, because if that doesn't work out to be the case then I wouldn't want to run both the air conditioner and the water chiller on the same breaker as the rest of my grow. It's an old house, I don't know how much I trust the wiring.

I am thinking of changing my duct system to pvc to cut down on resistance and I am going to install an active intake as well. Going to start with a high cfm scythe pc fan and see if that still maintains negative pressure or not. If it doesn't I will wire up a lower cfm model and see how that fairs. I also believe I need to upgrade to 6" vortex, the 4" I don't think is going to be enough.. plus the 6" cool tube and 6" heat exchanger would fit up without the transition pieces I am currently using leftover from the LED grow.

Thoughts? Criticisms? I'm especially looking for feedback on coco feeding schedules with canna coco nutrients. I'm going to purchase the additives, the important ones for flowering at least, soon. but for now I'm just on a & b. I will likely continue to use my B.C. nutes for rooting since they work alright and it saves me from having to purchase the expensive bottle of rhyzotomic.

After the flush yesterday everything is perky and I am seeing substantial new growth on the clones (which have been slow moving so far, I'm guessing do to the improper nute levels in the coco. Honestly I'm surprised they were as healthy as they were @ those levels.. As I said previously, I LOVE this new pheno of blue mystic I have. We shall see later in flower if it carries the same aroma and flavor punch as the last ones.. I'll have a new mother vegging just in case she does.. I was going to filter her out because she was a low yielder and incredibly nute sensitive, but this other pheno is an entirely different ballgame so far. Gonna give her a chance and prepare for the best.

Mother is happy as well under her HPS. Temps are steady at 80 with a new active intake (think I need a second, the fan spins enough to hurt my finger even when it's not on, haha) and the door cracked. 85 with it sealed entirely. My next problem is working around the temp issues and I think I may invest in that water chiller sooner than I planned. Which also means the purchase of a reservoir.. We shall see.. It's a big investment and I'm not exactly well off right now.. Going to give another feeding tomorrow until I get a decent amount of runoff. I dumped some of the higher concentrations of runoff and diluted what was left and mixed them all together. Going to run an airpump in them for about an hour tonight and then dump them into the future outdoors garden (tomatoes and whatnot) just as a little bonus for the soil since I know it's been a couple years since it was properly cared for anyway and shouldn't mind the food. Rather give it to the soil than the toilet.

Nothin worth posting pics over as far as changes, will update visuals again in a few days. Switched to an 18/6 cycle last night


Hmm, I had two intake fans wired though one was just trying to draw heat from the open window.. it fell and I angled it differently to play up over the intake fan on the side of the case and it dropped the temps 5 deg with the door cracked. So I sealed it up and have the fans positioned the same.. and hopefully that'll top out at 79-80. I transplanted my jock horror seedling into a 5 gal bucket and it's in there until I start flowering and get my veg chamber up. Put a misted cup over it just because it's so young and there were some torn roots when I transplanted (grew through the container drainage holes, I almost cried when I felt the tear even with my light touch). She looks healthy as well..

PS, on a personal note I'm in loooove with a strippppeerrrrrr.

Lights came on an hour ago and I took some photos of the growth over the last 36 hours or so. Mother is filling in very nicely now and I'm assuming the roots descended pretty well and they're responding happily to the new nutrients and the flush.. Looks like she's still hungry for something though, going to up her food gradually over the next 6 days and see how much she likes.. Probably aim for 1400 tomorrow when I mix since that was what the runoff was about at just in case all she wants is more balanced nutrients.. and work my way up from there.

Nice grow...I play a little guitar too.

Thanks! Haha, I would never make it as a pro but I enjoy writing music.


Hmm, here's an excerpt from my grow log yesterday that I didn't have time to get online..

3/14 1245

Forgot to ph water down after I added nutes. Canna A&B 25ml ea in an unknown volume of water (added a little at a time until I hit 1600+ (1620-1625 to be more precise, with 150ppm tap). The runoff was at 5.67 ph and 1650-1655 ppm. So hopefully it'll be alright. Kickin myself though, I didn't even check it after to see what it was.. just checked the ppm and watered.

The little sog garden is making visible improvements. One plant is far ahead of the rest in terms of aggressive growth so I've rotated the container in it is now the one in the furthest corner.. Trimmed a few fan leaves off on the bottom, as they grow I will train them away from one another to create space but right now it's kind of tight.



3/15 8:35

The plants look fantastic and healthy. The PH must have been close enough to not effect it, I will see what it is actually at in the next feedings runoff.

Saw the first signs of gnats I've had since I transplanted and layered hydroton on top of the grows. Spotted a tiny tiny hole in one of the leaves and when I moved the plant to investigate it one flew off, gave it a rigorous shake and snagged 2 more, didn't see any signs of them crawling in the coco beneath the hydroton but I guess I will layer even more on there and consider an h202 flush in the next few feedings to hopefully get rid of it before I flower. About to water baby mama and attempt to germinate the elusive Tangerine Dream so many people have had issues with.

One of the new clones looks good and like it's supporting it's own leaves now instead of them resting on the container.. one looks horrible and soggy, I gave it a tug and it popped right out.. no root growth. Stuck it back in, what do I have to lose by waiting a few more days? The other two are somewhere in between.. kinda being supported by the edge of the container, but still haven't gone limp either. I really don't want to have to grow from seed every time, I will, but I would prefer to do hempy's with smaller buckets or multiple plants per container than 4 large plants that have vegged for 2 months, but I can't seem to get this rooting thing down.. I'm going to give the mist bucket another try since it was my highest success rate so far, but am planning a slight modification to modify it to run multiple sprinkler heads instead of the single centered one.

3/16

Mother was exhibiting signs of extreme dehydration after I elevated her closer to the light for the night. I'm trying to figure out exactly what time schedule I want my 12/12 to be on. Cooling wise it makes more sense to have it on at night, but in terms of accessibility 3pm - 3am is the best on cycle for me.. I'm considering ways to ventilate stealthily out a window without alerting the neighbors. I have an idea to stealthily vent out my window prior to putting the A/C in.. but it involves another major change to the airflow system and possibly a fan upgrade (which I want to do anyway, but don't want to shell out money for atm).

I've been toying with the idea of a vertical grow in Cab V3. Initially I was concerned about not being able to access the plants in the back but thought since Hempy buckets don't have any tubing or cords to tie them down I could just put it on a large turn table. Hmm.. We shall see..

None of those new clones look good at all, they all slid right out of the coco and had no roots and dark nasty looking stems. I need to pickup some more hydrogen peroxide tomorrow and then get my mist bucket going. I need one more clone before I can flower to replace Mother and it needs to be asap before that little sog garden gets too crowded and mother gets root bound partway through flower.

Am I right to assume their thin lanky leaf structure is do to the HPS' spectrum? Under the LED's vegging was always tight and luscious green. They're clones of mother but they are exhibiting very very different growth structure.



Oh, pics were from 3/15.. it's so hard to keep up with the growth photos. I can see a difference within a 6 hour time span, haha.

Photos from this afternoon a little after lights on. Today was the first 12 hour of darkness, trimmed up the sog garden and am attempting some micro clones as well as two more cuts from mother.

Threw in a quickly done screen to try and maintain control and a level canopy through any 12/12 stretch.. Going to give her a light trimming of some of the more obstructive fan leaves and a fresh tuck job tomorrow.

Can't see it here, but everything is a nice healthy green. I've started the sog's on the same feed schedule as mother (backed down to 1400 even though she's happy with 1700+) to save time on mixing nutrients.



Other than that, germinating a single TD in paper towel for about 30 hours or so now. I'll check on it in the morning. Usually have success within 24-48 hours with this method in the past, sometimes up to 72 hours for stubborn ones. Will plant into a small coco peat starter plug if it's ready and then into a 10L hempy bucket to start after it pops.

Would love to start a Jilly Bean as well, but I need to get my veg chamber in order before I get too out of hand. Right now all my vegging plants/clones are co-mingling under a low wattage CFL. Waiting for jock horror to hit the bottom of her 5 gallon so she can finally start to grow up a bit. She's a real slow mover that I wouldn't think was ready for more nutes, but I'm beginning to second guess that choice.

Gave mother a haircut, took about 10 more potential micro clones to add to the collection.. the more the merrier, given my poor clone success rate. All I need is 1 healthy mother, but any extra's that take root will be used to fill in the cabinet a bit more.. It's roomy enough for 3-4 small bushes or about 9-12 smaller plants.. the upper numbers would require me to open up the floor space by mounting smaller fans on the walls for airflow to replace the one sitting by the intake presently.

I also replaced the screen (I was getting chills up my spine trying to weave her in and out of that metal screen with larger squares cut out). I used material I had laying around that I over looked, a metal cubicle shelving system for closets. I'm going to look for some white ones next time, they work perfectly and it's a nice soft texture and doesn't catch on the leaves as I pop them through. Can't wait to see some blooming going on soon.

Hey man nice setup. I noticed you were having some issues, so I hope this helps. No BS here, I promise You may have some luck, but just so you're aware, all of the ones in the bottom tray are too small, or have had the leaves cut back too much. The two on the left look like they might have been OK, but you really only need to cut the very tips (5-25% of the leaf is fine) to encourage water intake while still retaining a healthy leaf to produce energy to root. The rooting medium (coco or do I see Jiffy pellets?) needs to stay wet/moist but not soaked enough to drown and cause damping off. 75-80 is nice temp. When they are in fresh cut clone stage you need a humidity dome also, such as a clear plastic soda bottle with the top cut off, or clear plastic, or preferably an actual tray. The dome can come off after a few days which will show the root development by the plants whose leaves don't droop or wilt. If you were to get a tray or even just the plugs, I recommend Rapid Rooter plugs as I have had 100% success rate with them, and you could transplant straight into what you use now. Also, I can only speak for Clonex gel, but just about any liquid or gel is fine. Any medium with air/water will do, but bubble rooters seem to take a good bit longer, I assume because of the lack of rooting hormone. As a side note, try to take clones that have at least 2 nodes of fan leaves with the 3rd node starting, or about 4 inches long-- they can develop faster with a longer life on your mommy than they can with a slow start on their own
Also, the LED will definitely be better for veg, the HPS is a bit harsh and lacking in blue spectrum for best veg. CFL is perfect for nursing new clones, too. LED is better in flowering as well, because of the amount of useful light is so much greater, but mixing them both for flowering is best for your size area. You may notice your plants turn toward the LED even if the HPS is closer though, as I did!
Hope this was helpful! Good luck!

They are coco starters, not your normal jiffy pellets with soil. I have those as well but every time I use them I see fungus gnat issues. I have a tray and dome that come with the heat mat, but it needs to be sterilized because I had an outbreak of some white fuzz on anything that was inside of it. All those tiny micro clones though, were just because they were being cut anyway. The sog garden is going to be lollipopped to encourage just 1 fat main cola per plant, and as I trimmed the bottom leaves I kept anything over 1" with a stiff enough stem to scrape. They are VERY tiny though and I do realize that it is less than ideal.

I want to get a cloning powder instead of the gel but my usual sources for online ordering don't seem to have it. All gel and solutions.. Maybe I've overlooked them..

I'll get there. I have started watering with a syringe so I can better saturate the starter pellets without over saturating it by flooding the bottom of a tray. I wait til it starts to get a lighter brown.

Temps have been an issue.. I left my windows open last night and woke up to snow and 15deg celsius temps. It's either too hot or too cold in this terrible transition to spring.


Thanks for the tips, I'll get it eventually. I have high hopes of at least one clone surviving. The next and final batch I'm going to be attempting rockwool again in smaller cubes.

Baby Tangerine Dream, transplanted into 5qt hempy container for now. Want to see if the size makes a difference between this and the 5gal bucket and at what age.



Micro Clones in a bucket on top of a heating pad.



Baby Jock Horror in a 5gal hempy bucket.



More micro clones in a small tray..

They've begun to flower, the bloom additives are on their way. Threw a pic of jock horror recovering from her manicure about 6 days ago. Seeing early signs of roots in the mist bucket I'm using, going to change the water completely tonight and will be taking some flowering cuttings as well in a few days when I give the final trim. I was using un ph'd water from the tap with a little less than a cap full of hydrogen peroxide every few days. I've been monitoring the water mostly by smell and my nose says it's time to do a complete change.. ordered neem oil to try and end the small but ongoing gnat issue with Mother. They're not taking very well, but every so often I find one on a leaf and if I disturb the hydroton and perlite on top I will see a few crawl or fly out.

Mother's scrog is filled out decently. There's 2 or 3 sites that need to grow a little more to reach their final resting spot. all but 2 flower sites I was hoping would stretch more are getting fairly equal light distribution. I am thinking she didn't stretch as much as the sog garden did, because she's been aching to flower for awhile now.

I'm looking at 3 main colas, about 4-5 decently sized, and 4-5 mediocre sized, some of which may yet be cut if they don't bust through the screen by the time I do final trim. I was counting on them to fill out the center a little more.

Look at that stretch. It's filling in perfectly, foliage is out of hand though.. I may yet have 1 more trim ahead of me sometime before week 3. Beyond that point I won't cut anything and risk staggering the plant's growth more.

Mama's on 1700/5.7, Sogs on 1300/5.7, 2 nicely rooted clones should assure Mother's pheno lives on as I had hoped, the rest would be nice to throw into another sog garden but if they all don't take but those two, I'll still be happy. I've already had some of the smaller micro clones wilt completely and replaced them from some heartier ones from my last trimming.

I don't think I've been as repulsed by an odor in my bedroom as this neem oil since I woke up next to this girl I brought home from the bar a few years ago.. Much like that stench, I can't seem to get this one off my hands and it's lingering in the air. I hope I don't channel any spirits with all these candles I have going right now, could host a freaking seance.. I want to throw up, but I also dumped an excess batch down the toilet. I'm fine sticking my head where people shit, but not where I dumped neem oil. People use this stuff on their skin and hair too? I hope I never meet that girl.


Anyway... I transplanted one of the clones to a 5 quart bucket flushed to 650ppm (150 tap) / 5.7ph and did my best to get this massive taproot down into there (what I get for putting this off for 2 days I guess). I need to wash more hydroton tomorrow and flush another bucket for the other clone.



I might sleep in the living room tonight cause this smell will not dissipate. Neem oil arrived just in time though because my small infestation quickly got out of hand.

Today I mixed a proper batch of Neem oil spray with Dawn Essentials (biodegradable and fragrance free) as an Emulsifier. I used what I had on hand last night, reluctantly, because I needed to just do a light spraying on the top of the medium itself as there were bugs crawling all over. I'm hoping to avoid foliar applications, even though everyone says it's fine to use up until 2 weeks to harvest. Neem oil is so nasty I don't want it touching it at all now that it's flowering regardless of the facts behind it.

I took it out and gave it a vigorous shake at lights on today, brushed the leaves off and took a peek under the canopy to see no visible signs of infestation left. I applied a heavy dose to the top of the medium and then fed/watered the plant as normal hoping to carry and distribute the neem throughout the rest of the medium. I will apply another dose later tonight.

I also treated the medium of all my other plants as a preventative. I will be doing this daily for a little while, until I don't see any bugs flying away when I shake mother's bucket and then cut back to once a week until week 4, and hope for the best for the rest.

I'm halting "production" on the micro clones on the heat mat. It's a pain in the ass to try and keep them moist without a thermostat control and pretty soon I am going to be too busy to keep up with it at all. I'm going to stick with the misting bucket for now since of all the methods, I've had the best luck with it and it's the lowest maintenance (half cap of H202 once every 3-4 days and let it ride, maybe I'll get some liquid clonex too).

I'm also going to start popping my Jock Horror into the flowering chamber during lights on for a few days and hopefully find the time/motivation to finish my veg cab before work really gets busy next week. I'm seeing uncomfortable amount of stretching under the cfl lamp next to my bed.

Tangerine Dream is turning into a dreamy little seedling. My sympathies to all those who had a bad batch of seeds (if I was comfortable exchanging information or thought anyone else might be either, I would definitely be sending Serapis one of my seeds in the mail to make up for Attitude's attitude about 0% germination rates).

Everything is healthy and happy. Switched to a bloom feeding schedule for Mother and the Sog. 24 hours later I feel like I see a difference, but that might just be anticipation of what is hopefully to come.

JH is getting big. By accident, I left it in the cab for a night instead of moving it out at lights out. I had a lot of distractions that night, to say the least. TD is doing lovely as well and growing much faster than JH did, but even in early veg stages, JH smells amazing.

I trimmed and dried some of the smaller flower sites left below the screen before I fed them, as well as trimming off 3 or 4 obstructive fan leaves from the canopy, and smoked them with a buddy. It tasted like all the other uncured blue mystic I've tried and a big bowl pack gave us both a really uplifting high, though it wasn't very long lasting. Before you say anything, they were getting cut regardless.. and I was about to just toss em into my trimming drawer when I figured "why the hell not?"

Finally got around to prepping some hydroton/coco hempy buckets for 3 rooted clones. I ran out of soaked coco in the middle of a fourth bucket, that could have come in handy apparently as one of the flowering cuttings I took rooted in record time (for me at least) and is ready for a bucket of her own. I need to figure out how to arrange the flower cabinet as it's a little crowded atm. Not having a veg cab up is hindering my efforts but I don't have the time to devote to getting it modified to operate more efficiently than it did on my first grow. In addition to coco I need to order more mylar as well for the renovations. I have some scrap pieces that are fairly large that I ripped out of the flower cab when I redid it, full of holes from staples and such, I will probably use and patch any large holes or tears with hvac tape.

JH and TD mothers are looking superb and healthy. Stretching a tad under the CFL's but I'm glad, to an extent, because it'll let me take some earlier clones with heartier/longer stems.

Here's some bud shots, in case anyone actually reads this. I'm keeping it mostly for my own logs but feedback is always nice too.





Here's some other shots of the mama's. The funkified leaves on the JH is from an unsuccessful fimming very early on. I'm not sure if it was too early, or if I cut too high, or what.. But it didn't create any extra colas after recovery, so I gave it another fim about 3 days ago that I'm glad to say took and it recovered very quickly from. I see improved growth in lower shoots already.