4 Inches is all them girls need?

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by Cold$moke, Jan 10, 2018.

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    dlftmyers

    dlftmyers Well-Known Member

    No problem man..I'll be looking forward to the updates
     
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    Flowki

    Flowki Well-Known Member

    Nobody is saying no. We are saying this is not a brand new concept at all.. but that the man you speak of is pretty much re spinning the concept to sell pots. You don't need to prove your 4 inch rock cube will work because we already know it does, his pots are basically ''air pots'' and your cubes are basically ''air cubes'', see the connection?. What you DO need to prove is that the same results of a 4 inch pot can not be achieved using a 6 or 8 inch pot. Forget about root fill times because obviously the bigger pot is creating more roots thus should take longer. In terms of end weight, so long as both are treated the same and up potted when they are individually ready I would not bet against both being near the same weight if the seeds are of similar expression. If they are not then results will vary either way.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    DUUHH

    (Edit to add ; guys i dont give a fuck about a 4 inch vs 6 inch cube pot whatever im trying to get the drs. Results without having to try "his" pots. At the same time i might buy them IF THIS WORKS. He didnt use a 6 inch cube neither will i.

    Go watch the whole lecture video and tell me why you think he doesnt use a 6 inch pot cause he gives reasons for stopping at 4 inches god damn some peoples kids.)




    about the cube being an "air cube" thats why im using it.

    And the responses to the rest of your comments ive already answered in my previous post basically

    You still did not provide me with anything i didnt already know and you still havent convinced me otherwise (im a stubborn one :) )

    And look in page 3 kingrow blatently said
    Hes honestly tried it and it doesnt do any thing.

    Also odins qoute was go ahead fuck your roots up.
    So yes people DID SAY IT SHOULDNT BE DONE

    Ill see for my self thanks though
    Id appreciate if the naysayers dont have any photos that they just NOT post
    Or
    an article wrtten by ANYONE with a proper background saying it will lessen yeilds or otherwise harm the plant.

    Till then please dont make this thread bigger
    I havent even made it to week3 pics yet lmao

    Its ok if im wrong too wouldnt be the first slice of humble pie ive had :)
     
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    Flowki

    Flowki Well-Known Member

    And once again I ask.. how is 4 inches the magical number for every single tree and plant species?. No matter the size of plant/tree in nature, no matter the root system or growth speed type.. they all achieve the best possible result in a 4 inch pot?.

    Why are you saying ''if it works'' when we all clearly know IT DOES WORK (it's essentially air pruning + not water logging into anaerobic conditions) and we, or at least I are simply arguing the finer points. You seem intent on making this out to be some righteous venture against your own projected popular disbelief.

    Btw, just because you are posting pics it does not give you any moral high ground in telling other people to put up or shut up. What you currently have is not hard to match or beat, I'll politely leave it there.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member


    And i didnt say mine would beat anyones :) either so piss on that one.

    I asked for proof this doesnt increase yeilds by increasing root growth no one has any ,that i have seen thank you very much

    Get off your ass and do the research like i did and youll have your answer

    I dont know why you guys are hung up on this
    Im doing it so there nothing eles to be said as far as im concerned

    Good day
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    And once again i ask that you do some research
    Before asking the same question over and over to which i gave my OPPINON

    REMEMBER IM NOT THE DR. THAT DID THE STUDY

    Hopefully you can UNDERSTAND
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Sorry @Flowki

    Let me start over

    I dont KNOW if the same results can be had in a 4 vs 6 inch cube ....

    Im testing a 4 inch because thas as CLOSE as i can get without purchasing the dr.s pots.

    Does this answer your question?
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    20180114_220302-1.jpg
    Just as an update.
    Ive added a clone to the root pruning experiment.

    These just had their longer roots pruned off.
    And i will continue to prune them at 4x4 inces till it gets put into a system.

    Will have the weekly pic on Wednesday
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    13 days from being cut

    Pruned the long single stringers off twice now 20180117_091214.jpg
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Heres the update on the seedling in the test.

    Good and bad lol


    Ok seedling roots are still developing.

    But due to my inexperience with rockwool
    I slighlty underfed them.

    And they seem a little droopy cause Im not used to how much water the blocks can hold.

    Basically i should have had my feed up and waterd less.


    But here are the roots. Not as fuzzy as last time
    20180117_185451.jpg
    Sorry for the hps lights lol
     
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    max420thc

    max420thc Well-Known Member

    What I like to do in rockwool cubes is take a little syringe and put a few drops of bennificial bacteria into the cube establishing a nice colony in the cube and watch them bitchs explode.
    Voodoo juice was one of my favorites to do this with.
     
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    max420thc

    max420thc Well-Known Member

    Rock wool holds moisture like crazy to much , so you have to be careful watering them. Wait till it gets close to dry you can tell they start turning a lighter color before you rewater them again
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Yea plus my vpd was off in my room

    I changed my humidty settings last night and they are already perking back up with the cubes fully saturated!

    So i got that one licked:)


    Also my mix has bennies in it @max420thc
    But thanks for the heads up

    Edit to add actually i have to double check that

    I am running RAW. Grow and bloom and i cant remeber if they mix in bennies or not
     
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    907guy

    907guy Well-Known Member

    I use pure rockwool start to finish, took me a round to get use to it.

    I start seeds in 4” blocks, for cuttings I cut the 4” blocks into quarters.

    The trick is to soak the blocks for 10 min or so and then flick/whip the extra water out of them. I put them under a dome and you shouldnt have to touch them for some time.

    To rehydrate, I find it’s better to dip the bottom inch or so in your nute solution for about 5 seconds rather then do a top feed until you pot them.

    Cuttings get dipped in clone x and stuck into the quartered block then into the dome for 2 weeks.

    I have have almost 100% success like this, I dont even spray the dome or monitor temps/rh of the dome. It just sits in my veg tent along with everything else.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    I do too :)
    I soak my blocks in ph water first then i shake that out and soak
    In 1/4 strength BLOOM nutes
    Kelp, humic acid and b vitamins

    My clones look like shit that i tried in rockwool but 100 percent survival :)
    Still not giving up my aerocloner lmao

    Ill got get an update pic soon
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    19 days from cut

    Interesting is the more i cut it it stays short like a bonsai :)
    20180123_115600.jpg
     
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    esh dov ets

    esh dov ets Well-Known Member

    wonder if this effects phenotype expression.
     
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    3GT

    3GT Well-Known Member

    OK so how about a 4" fabric pot with flyscreen bottom? So the taproot comes out and gets air pruned
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Quite possible.

    But i woulf think it doesnt hide expression.

    But mabey shows it in a different light :)
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Seems like it would work just fine.

    Im actually glad u started doing the trials on clones because
    Im just a miserable noob with rockwool lmao
    I think i should have put them in a system about

    3 weeks after they started dividing roots

    As i think. I might be pushing them too hard


    But im very happy with the results from the cloner and on the next test i wont put it into a 4 inch cube

    But will pop the seed in a 2 inch cube and as soon as the root comes out ill let it get to a total of 4 inches then

    I will try manually cutting it

    The clones has had its roots trimmed almost every day and the roots are getting heavy lol
     

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