4-aco-dmt

Haddaway · Apr 8, 2010

I tried to contact a certain Canadian vendor about this chemical, but they are very slow to respond. Then today I found out a extremely popular Thai vendor has it! WTF! YES!! Already sent the money

Haddaway · Apr 8, 2010

Also, apparently IV of this substance creates a trip quite similar to DMT but much longer.. Hmm..

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

You're one hell of a psychonaut to actually comtemplate the IV ADMINISTRATION of 4-aco-dmt!

Aren't you lucky finding all these vendors

shepj · Apr 9, 2010

4-AcO-DMT has been restocked by a lot of vendors..

Make sure when you get it you store it properly!

It is subject to degradation like a mofo (so I hear).

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

shepj said:
4-AcO-DMT has been restocked by a lot of vendors..

Make sure when you get it you store it properly!

It is subject to degradation like a mofo (so I hear).

Just like psilocin is to mushrooms, correct?

shepj · Apr 9, 2010

ndangerspecimen101 said:
Just like psilocin is to mushrooms, correct?

I don't know that I follow? I am under the impression that psilocin is produced via enzymatic reaction of psilocybin. Would than not make psilocybin the chemical that degrades ;-)

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

shepj said:
I don't know that I follow? I am under the impression that psilocin is produced via enzymatic reaction of psilocybin. Would than not make psilocybin the chemical that degrades

Ah shepj I take the delight to inform you that it has been proven that psilocybin and psilocin are relatively identical in nature! So vice versa

Haddaway · Apr 9, 2010

shepj said:
4-AcO-DMT has been restocked by a lot of vendors..

Make sure when you get it you store it properly!

It is subject to degradation like a mofo (so I hear).

I am pretty sure this is true of the HCL salt, but when it is fumurate (also slightly less potent by weight) it is actually EXTREMELY stable, the vendors have to do this or they would be selling 4acodmt with degradation to psilocin which is a controlled substance.

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

Haddaway said:
I am pretty sure this is true of the HCL salt, but when it is fumurate (also slightly less potent by weight) it is actually EXTREMELY stable, the vendors have to do this or they would be selling 4acodmt with degradation to psilocin which is a controlled substance.

Are you saying the hydrochloride version is illegal?

Syke1 · Apr 9, 2010

I can vouch for the fumarate withstanding atleast 4 weeks in vodka without any noticeable degredation. Is there any tek's on how to purposley degrade 4-aco-DMT into psilocyn? That would be killer.

Oh by the way, HI ! I'm syke1!

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

Syke1 said:
I can vouch for the fumarate withstanding atleast 4 weeks in vodka without any noticeable degredation. Is there any tek's on how to purposley degrade 4-aco-DMT into psilocyn? That would be killer.

Oh by the way, HI ! I'm syke1!

Hello, fellow newcomer!

Hope to see more of you on RIU...

Wow, 4 weeks in vodka induce intoxication without noticeable degradation... rather stable indeed!

Syke1 · Apr 9, 2010

Thanks for the warm welcome! I will be around from now on, ive been lurking for sometime now and just felt like I could finally contribute.

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

Syke1 said:
Thanks for the warm welcome! I will be around from now on, ive been lurking for sometime now and just felt like I could finally contribute.

Hope you bring some aspiring thoughts to these threads...new thoughts, new inspirations!

Syke1 · Apr 9, 2010

I will most def. try my best

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

Just like in BLOODSPORT my flowering child

Haddaway · Apr 9, 2010

ndangerspecimen101 said:
You're one hell of a psychonaut to actually comtemplate the IV ADMINISTRATION of 4-aco-dmt!

Aren't you lucky finding all these vendors

Apparently it dissolves pretty well in water, so it seems very safe.

ndangerspecimen101 · Apr 9, 2010

Haddaway said:
Apparently it dissolves pretty well in water, so it seems very safe.

You remind me of a much younger Aldous Huxley

Haddaway · Apr 9, 2010

ndangerspecimen101 said:
You remind me of a much younger Aldous Huxley

I take that as a humongous compliment!!

shepj · Apr 10, 2010

Syke1 said:
Is there any tek's on how to purposley degrade 4-aco-DMT into psilocyn? That would be killer.

Psilocin is 4-HO-DMT. I'm not sure if it would be easier starting with Psilacetin or Iprocin..

Syke1 said:
Oh by the way, HI ! I'm syke1!

Welcome aboard dude.

Syke1 · Apr 10, 2010

shepj said:
Psilocin is 4-HO-DMT. I'm not sure if it would be easier starting with Psilacetin or Iprocin..

Welcome aboard dude.

Well the roomer is that Psilacetin does this naturally on its own, so i would have to say Psilacetin???? IDK Im no chem wiz.

And thanks for the warm welcome.

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