2000w Coco Grow, Skywalker OG/Wookies

Its been a couple of years since I grew anything but have decided to do a small personal grow again. I want to keep a grow journal in the hopes that someone will come across it and find some of this information useful, as I did when I first started growing.

I haven't completely finished setting up the room yet and wont hang the other 1000w until the plants grow more but here are the specs.

12 Skywalker OG Clones
8 Wookies Clones

The clones were already showing decent roots when I picked them up so I decided to plant them right away and administer a 1/4 strength nutrient solution.

I use GH Flora Series, along with CaliMag.

My typical nutrient solution for vegetative growth is 5ml/gallon each of the flora series and 3ml/gallon calmag for the first 3 weeks and then I cut back to 1ml/gal.

I am using a 1000w Vivosun MH for vegetative growth and will be using Hortilux HPS for flowering.

I use a 8" inline fan as my exhaust, which is hooked up to a carbon filter. The 8" inline is on a speed controller (on lowest setting) as well as a thermostat switch. Whenever the temperatures in the room climb over 76 degrees the exhaust comes on until the temperature falls. I live in a cold climate so temperatures aren't hard to manage, even if I run multiple 1000w lights in the same room.

Once into flowering, the 8" inline fan will be turned up to medium speed and there will also be a 6" inline fan as intake also on a speed controller.

The plan is to have a canopy of 3.5ft by 7ft with 2 1000w above it. Clones will eventually be transplanted into 3 gallons containers and then vegged for approximately 2 months. During this time I will prune the plants to shape them, and also throw away any plants I deem unfit. I'm only looking for 10 plants out of the 20 to make the cut for flowering.

10 plants in 3 gal buckets sitting on a 3x6ft tray. Drain to waste coco grow.

I ALWAYS water to at least 20% runoff, if not much more.

The clones have now been in coco for about a week and have shown considerable growth so today I gave them there 3rd watering at a full strength dose. They will now be watered daily until the roots have filled the solo cup and that will signal time for transplanting into 3gal containers.

There are 4 clones that are falling behind the others a little bit. When I went to water the past two times, these 4 clones seemed to not use as much water as the rest. It may even be accurate to the point that I probably shouldn't have watered these 4 clones out of fear of drowning them, but I did anyways. I only plan on having 10 plants make it all the way through to flowering. The weak plants will not be treated any differently. If they cant keep up, they will be tossed.

The Wookies clones were in considerably better condition upon arrival in there new home. The Skywalker OG clones seem to have come from a home where the TLC wasn't as present. Regardless, out of the 12 Skywalker, 8 are recovering nicely and showing signs of vigorous root growth which should allow them to become sturdy adults. 2 of the Skywalker clones show signs of twisted deformed leaves. I will still allow them to grow, but if it seems that the problem is genetic, I will dispose of them swiftly as well.

Still need to measure and cut the ducting for the exhaust fan. Exhaust wont truly be necessary for a couple of weeks or so. Very little smell coming from plants currently and room stays at around 75-77 degrees. I find that with my grows a moderately higher temperature was always better than aiming for 70-72. Plants grew faster with the slightly higher temps.

Feel free to post or ask any questions you may have. This is an open journal.

Day 9

Stoked for this, I've smoked some Wookies once and it was super fire. I'll be following along.

This is Day 10. Leaf growth has begun to take off. The will all be topped and transplants on monday. All have been receiving full strength nutes and even a little extra. The MH 1000w has been moved to 24" from tops of plants.

So it turns out I’ve been a little too aggressive with these guys. Visually people would say that this is a heat/humidity issue but it’s not.

Serrated leaf edges, canoeing leaves, yet vigorous growth.

This is my typical over fertilizing and overwatering.

I got overexcited like I usually do when starting a grow and tried to push the babies too hard.

The combination of 24 hour light, 3 waterings a day, and enough fertilizer to kill a small child had started to show its wear on these plants.

By no means are they unhealthy. I just dont think the plant can keep up. In less than a week these babies went from little ones with no new growth to having 5” fan leaves. The lower nodes are beginning to race with the top because of the insane amount of light.

And this picture isn’t of the bigger ones.

Roots are vibrant white and amazing. Perlite and coco tend to allow that.

Today I transplant and top. Some may say to space out these things out of fear of shock, but that’s ridiculous.

I’ll give them a half dose of nutes and let the plants have a quick break since I just forced them through puberty in an insanely small amount of time.

Lstforlife said:

I gave them there 3rd watering at a full strength dose. They will now be watered daily until the roots have filled the solo cup

Click to expand...

Hi Lst...
I'm in a new room and I did like you...started plants before room was ready. It sure forced me into action.

I was going to comment on your dosage for solo cup plants...but you already found out that that was too much.

My other comment is that you need to let them dry. I have plants in solo cups right now. The drying process really forces the roots to follow the water. So if you want good root development...that's how you do it. Even after transplant...and then once you have good roots in your 3 gal pots....then go to town feeding daily or even multiple times daily Or that's what my research tells me.

And the second picture down. The top view of that little one. It has early Mg deficiency so I think your reduction of calmag was a mistake.

Sorry to sound critical but those issues needed comment.

Looking forward to your grow.
JD

I'd recommend some perlite in that coco. At least an 80/20. Three times a day watering you could even go with a 60/40, imo.

JohnDee said:

Hi Lst...
I'm in a new room and I did like you...started plants before room was ready. It sure forced me into action.

I was going to comment on your dosage for solo cup plants...but you already found out that that was too much.

My other comment is that you need to let them dry. I have plants in solo cups right now. The drying process really forces the roots to follow the water. So if you want good root development...that's how you do it. Even after transplant...and then once you have good roots in your 3 gal pots....then go to town feeding daily or even multiple times daily Or that's what my research tells me.

And the second picture down. The top view of that little one. It has early Mg deficiency so I think your reduction of calmag was a mistake.

Sorry to sound critical but those issues needed comment.

Looking forward to your grow.
JD

Click to expand...

I appreciate the comment.

Let me clarify a few things.

The yellowing seen was how I got the clones. The clones were in poor condition when I got them unfortunately. After I got them every new leaf has been vibrant and velvety. I provided feedback to the original caregiver of these clones letting them l ow the poor quality.

For two weeks I have been giving 7ml of each of the GH flora series along with 3ml per gallon of Cali magic. The plants are definitely not deficient anymore haha.

I find that in coco/perlite people are too cautious with new plants and because of that don’t see the true potential. When I used to sprout seeds in coco I would charge the coco with a full dose of nutes before planting the seed once a initial root was seen in paper towel method. I find with proper conditions the plants truly crave the nutrients.

With clones I’ll typically give a half dose of nutes for the first watering or two and then once I see even a single root emerge out the bottom of the solo cup I go full blast or even more on them. I’ll check the roots once a week by just popping them out of the cup. Once circling happens, time to transplant.

I’ll take a picture of the roots when I get home to show you but with coco/perlite it is almost a hydroponic setting. The roots have enough air so really you could not water too much most of the time.

My thing this time around was to push the plants as hard as I could to see what their potential could be. I bet if I incorporated co2 right now these plants would love this dose of nutes and 24 hour lights.

It isn’t necessary to ever let plants “dry” unless the medium requires. Always remember that there is no such thing as “overwatering”. Really what you are doing is under oxygenating.

Thanks for the comment!

I’ll take more pictures later.

Big Perm said:

I'd recommend some perlite in that coco. At least an 80/20. Three times a day watering you could even go with a 60/40, imo.

Click to expand...

Agreed. In the transplant today I’m adding about 40 percent perlite. The roots love it and growth is similar to a straight hydro but still provides a light buffer of coco.

I like doing all coco typically in solo cups first so that the medium doesn’t dry quite as quickly. At temps of 73 right now, it only took a week of growth for the plants to dry the cups out in about 14 hours in pure coco.

But once I got into larger pots, the perlite is great. Allows for frequent waterings without concern of drowning the roots ever.

Also, not sure if I’m the only one who has experienced this using coco and GH flora series, but if I water any less than once a day, the plants Droop, don’t grow as fast, and the leaves are lighter green and not as velvety.

Transplanted some of the kids today.

I hydrated the coco bricks in a large 50gal container that I had drilled a bunch of holes in the bottom.

I flushed the coco bricks with probably around 100 gallons of hot water. I then added a good amount of perlite. Then I poured 20 gallons phd water ( 5.8 ) with a 3/4 strength nutrient solution over the medium.

I mixed the coco up a lot during rinsing so I could get the sand to settle on the bottom. I don’t want that in there!

After transplanting, I added about thin layer of hydroton on top so the coco doesn’t get anywhere.

I like to water and treat the medium before I transplant. I won’t water for 2 days now and then go back to 2 or 3 waterings per day at full strength or higher nutrients.

Day 13 transplant.

Smaller clones on Day 6. Smaller clones now have root systems developed and have started showing signs they are ready to start taking off. The large clones were the same size as the smaller ones a week ago.

Finished setting up the room today.

Built a screen for keeping the plants even as they get bigger in the next few weeks.

Still need to finish transplanting.

That looks great!