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So after herbies came.... Took all of 4 days, yup props to them big time!!! Any way germed my freebie reg skunk and fem ssh. Germed: 12 hrs tap water they were still floating gave em a poke and they sank. Paper towel in a tuberware next to the boiler in a hoodie 2 days from start 1/4 - 1/2 in tap root. Put directly into ph apx(I'll get to that) 5.5-5.9 homemade 2 gallon bubbleponics rig in 3.5" net pots with hydroton under 2 13w 6500k cfl. Temp 72 F 24/0. The first two round leaves where there after germing,

Left this over night (I know I shouldn't but this is why I started with my freebies) basicly checked my tap roots and they both grew a few inches and are starting to branch off other roots. Wahoooo. Tucked them away in the hydroton nicely have the res high so it can hit the bottom of the root with the bubbles.

After 24 hrs I have it them under 4 23w 6500k cfls 76F same deal with the pH. Can clearly see the first set of leaves and little babies growing.

Questions is 92w of cfls going to be enough to veg under? Gotta keep temps down hps is in the flower room.

Yes I went directly into hydroton and not rapid roots or rockwool, why bc I didn't see why I couldn't.

I'm not gonna move the clay around again to check the roots how long until I see them popping through the net? No nuts until the round first leaves start yellowing right? I was going with ff or gh but stopped in a local hydro shop dude convinced me on botanicare pro grow. I read goood things but input would
Be great. I'm
Using tap water bottled and left open for at least 48hrs to declorinate.

So basically am
I right about when to nute and when should I except to see some growth. And can I used only 92w to clone/veg small plants over a longer period or I need more veg light. I want them small going into bloom gotta stay under 4'and going for perpetual grow thanks. I'm baked found some doc Og
 
Pictures help
but so far sounds good enough.
yea very very lite nutes for first 2 weeks .
easier to add more than take away .
as to the nutes ive run gh and botanicare they're both good although if its your first g I would go for one set of gh.

my reason is botanicare is great but in a dwc will make the roots look brown and may be harder for a noob to detect any root problem.
otherwise both good nutes
I like a ph of closer to 5.9 for babies 5.5 might be a lil spicy but totally strain dependant.

Cheers
 
Thanks for the reply. How sketchy is it really to Be showing pics and talking about things on here? I'd love to show pics.

That's good to know about the botanicare. Dude at the shop was pushing it hard said way easier for a newb. And I bought it already, only yhe grow formula for vegging and I'm not looking to veg long at all to keep them under 4. Can I get by as a newb with the botanicare? Returning it would be a huge pain and I can go with gHs bloom (why I only picked up the veg formula, only heard to get ff or GH but this dude talked me out

I picked my ph kit from petco not realizing it's from 6-7.2 so I have nothing to tell how far under 6 I am. I just know I'm at 6 then go littttttle bit lower. Digital pH is on the way
 
As to the pic thing up to you I figure if they want you they'll get you kind of veiw about it.

youll be ok with the botanicar.
its good stuff it just has more of a tea like consistency and has organics in it. Your fine but will make your roots look brown
as long as it smells sweet and earthy your fine if it smells rotten your not ok lol.
also remember less is more you can always ad nutes but harder to take away you follow
good luck
 
Thanks I'll try to get some pics. I added less than half the nutes called for last night and I kept an eye out. The skunk leaves really grew and opened up and I can see a nice super clean root coming about 2 inches out of the net

The SSH leaves deff grew a little but still no roots popping out. I have the res level pretty high still about half way into the net bc I transplanted my germed bean straight to the clay balls.
There is 96w of 6500k cfl sitting 3-5 inches from the plants they don't appear to dislike the light.
I'm running them 24/7.

Should I lower my res level now that I have roots starting to come out of the pot or let the SSH catch up than lower it? Will keeping the lights 24/7 right now speed up the growth or is 18/6 the same difference? I was waiting until I had nice roots to switch to 18/6 and veg under that for 2-3 weeks
 
K first of all go buy a cheap gh ph test kit this will get you by for years till.you can get a.nice meter and chemicals dont need calibration:)
your ph is important

also just watch your growth if your leaves a dark green and JUST the tips turn brown your on the verg of overdoing it on the nute .

botanicare is fine but it will make your roots look brown no way around it as long as you have enough air bubbles and your res temp doenst get too high. And switch your res out once every week mabey 2 youll be fine.
botanicare is usually gental on plants .
I always worked up from the chart you can always add more if lower leaves start to yellow.

your res should be high enough to keep those baby roots moist
id let the one thats growing faster get her feet wet the other should keep up hopefully. Your probably fine.
also dunno how big you want them but 2 gal with more than one plant will get crowded fast.
remember this is hard to say as I dont know you conditions and ect. Pictures can help
 
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So the smaller one is the SSH the larger is the skunk both my freebies. The SSH is fem seed. I just cleaned and changed the res and added nutes. It says use 15ml/3.8l I have a total of 6.6L and used 12mls of nutes. I ball parked the nutes at about 10ml last night so today I started fresh using a pipette instead of a tablespoon
 
Temp with the lights on is 77. pH is less than 6 but not to much (I think) just ordered a digital ph meter. I think the company is Milwaukee.. It was recommended on this site and for 20$ can't beat it. rH is deff low but I don't know for sure.

I'm looking to keep these small in veg. This is the whole set up right now until the flower room is done. I figured why not get these two started and see how it goes then go up from there. image.jpg
2 air pumps right now ones a 10gal that just wasn't enough added a 40gal that works great but they were out of Ts so I just have them both running now
 
More air the better .
just make sure you calibrate your meter. I still keeps a chemical test just a cheap insureance plus they dont have batteries lol

Are you planing on doing this just the way they are?

If you can I suggest building a cheap lil grow box out of black and whites plastic. The white will help boost your light.

Dont worry.too much about rh as long as your pellets dont dry out your fine.
Is this the light your using for your whole cycle?
 
Thanks so much for the reply. Everything is going into a white painted closet that ill line with those cheap emergancy blankets.
Cool so I'll grab a pH test kit that goes under 6.0 also I know I should be around 5.8 so I've just been making sure the color is at 6.0 and than add a little more ph down. They look pretty good so far though right?
I'm going to use a 400w hps to bloom with a few 6500l cfls to even out the spectrum. I plan to use that diy cfl rig to start seeds and clones and build another to veg under. 200w cfl enough to veg 4 small plants? How long can I get by with that light set up I have now? I also hVe to car heat reflector things lining that space it just wasn't in the pic. Thanks again for all the help. This is so fun!! I'm so stoked to see my little beans grow up

Also is they are in the veg state now that they have the first true leaves or is this still considered seedling?
 
So after herbies came.... Took all of 4 days, yup props to them big time!!! Any way germed my freebie reg skunk and fem ssh. Germed: 12 hrs tap water they were still floating gave em a poke and they sank. Paper towel in a tuberware next to the boiler in a hoodie 2 days from start 1/4 - 1/2 in tap root. Put directly into ph apx(I'll get to that) 5.5-5.9 homemade 2 gallon bubbleponics rig in 3.5" net pots with hydroton under 2 13w 6500k cfl. Temp 72 F 24/0. The first two round leaves where there after germing,

Left this over night (I know I shouldn't but this is why I started with my freebies) basicly checked my tap roots and they both grew a few inches and are starting to branch off other roots. Wahoooo. Tucked them away in the hydroton nicely have the res high so it can hit the bottom of the root with the bubbles.

After 24 hrs I have it them under 4 23w 6500k cfls 76F same deal with the pH. Can clearly see the first set of leaves and little babies growing.

Questions is 92w of cfls going to be enough to veg under? Gotta keep temps down hps is in the flower room.

Yes I went directly into hydroton and not rapid roots or rockwool, why bc I didn't see why I couldn't.

I'm not gonna move the clay around again to check the roots how long until I see them popping through the net? No nuts until the round first leaves start yellowing right? I was going with ff or gh but stopped in a local hydro shop dude convinced me on botanicare pro grow. I read goood things but input would
Be great. I'm
Using tap water bottled and left open for at least 48hrs to declorinate.

So basically am
I right about when to nute and when should I except to see some growth. And can I used only 92w to clone/veg small plants over a longer period or I need more veg light. I want them small going into bloom gotta stay under 4'and going for perpetual grow thanks. I'm baked found some doc Og
bad idea germing in dwc any who good luck with it get more light all i can say
 
bad idea germing in dwc any who good luck with it get more light all i can say
Cool thanks for the input more lights are on the way. And it was a bit of an experiment after reading about several people germing and going straight into the hydroton so I rolled with that, on my freebies. I think ill use rapid rooters on my other beans, from what I've seen it's a way faster process.

What is wrong with the way I went about things? What would have been different if I used rockwool or rapid rooters, sprouted and transferred to the clay? Really appreciate all info. I read for the last year about doing this but it's a big difference reading and doibg
 
Cool thanks for the input more lights are on the way. And it was a bit of an experiment after reading about several people germing and going straight into the hydroton so I rolled with that, on my freebies. I think ill use rapid rooters on my other beans, from what I've seen it's a way faster process.

What is wrong with the way I went about things? What would have been different if I used rockwool or rapid rooters, sprouted and transferred to the clay? Really appreciate all info. I read for the last year about doing this but it's a big difference reading and doibg
first 3 weeks of seed they hate water u will get a stronger more healthy plant from giving her 3 weeks in rock wool or soil alowing the roots A to form and B to get bigger to search for water
 
Ahhhh I gotcha. I kinda figured but when I saw these other... Very few guys do it this way I jumped on it bc my rapid rooters weren't here. They should be here tomorrow for my holy grail, c99 and ww x bb. I really just wanted to experiment going hydro this go around. Thanks so much for the info this is my newest hobby and I'm stoked to just keep learning.

From what I've seen.... After popping 5 days in a rapid rooter done proper have roots shooting out everywhere, I have one root coming out lol so yup deff will go with the true blue method.
These are looking even healthier after my res change and nutes. After 4 hrs the leaves are 2x the size and super green and yummy so I'm hoping I can use these guys then have my real deals ready to go when these go to bloom
 
You can let them get 8-10" under a 24w cfl. Any taller than that and you will run into problems with light penetration. I use 24w for seedlings and clones, and usually leave them under them for about 3 weeks and then repot and move under a metal halide for further vegging.
 
Cool thanks for the info I have 4 23watters on the babies now. I only have about 4ft of room (minus the bucket and light height to flower in so I figured I would only veg them to be 1ft bc from what I read both these strains can 3x in size.
This is day 5 from when they sprouted and went into the bubble bucket. Should I pour water from the res over the clay once in a while? When I check my roots normally a few times a day bc I'm excited I let one the one pot drip on the other.
I def won't use botanicare again even though you guys say it's normal and not a prob it sucked watching my pretty white root turn brownish but it's deff developing better. Still no sign of a root through the pot of the SSH (smaller one in the pic) any clue when I should be seeing it pop through? How do they look so far image.jpgimage.jpg
 
Update today. The root finally popped through on the SSH. Does it have anything to do with the skunk being a regular seed so it grew faster?

Also how do I add water to my res and adjust the nutes according? I couldn't afford a ppm and a pH meter so I went with the important pH. I have gallon containers de-chlorinating. Can I just mix my nutes right in the gallon and add that to the res than adjust pH? As long as I keep the gal of water with the nutes in the dark so it doesn't grow any Algee. Right now my res is ok. It's just about 2 gal of water which calls for 30mls of nutes the 1st week of veg. I only added 12mls 2 days ago and they look good (those are the pics in the last post). So I just added another 5mls which still keeps me at 17mls way under 30. If they look good should I keep upping the nutes to its full strength by the end of week 1 then when I change my res go right to full strength for that week?
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What do you guys think? Just checked the babies and the roots are exploding Prob double the size from when I posted the pics this an
 
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