1st SOG

I have to place some disclaimers for LEO to understand.
Which are as follows:

1. I have five cards now the next is in the works and will arrive shortly just not included in this redacted picture. In addition I have paid approximately $500 per patient to abide by state law and achieve this privilege. See attached pic
2. I only deal with my patients per the state no one else. Sorry everyone ;(!!
3. Concentrates such as tinctures, slaves, and liniments do not get you high this is not the purpose nor my patients needs. My patients are all elderly and never have smoked pot. In addition they were totally against it took me years to get them to try it as medicine and only after prop 203 passed.
4. My patients are under direct medical supervision from not only recommending doctors from numerous other doctors aware and are approving of this holistic approach. The strains I grow are specifically for cannabinoids such as CBDs, CBGs and numerous others, as well as terpines.
5. Me my self and I may indulge in a little THC and using my other methods of ingestion or rubs. I enjoy knowing I am being healthy and not ingestion pharmaceuticals for my numerous injuries.
6. This method of growth while numerous in plants there will be no veg time to speak of other than an acclimation to the new soil. Therefore the amount expected will be within my limits and consumed by each rotation of the crop.
7. I do not intend to sell to any one else. Understand for real medicine the limit while I know could potentially be abused in LEOs mind; it is not. The amount of extraction necessary to make effective medicine is way beyond smoking weed. If you are LEO I invite you to educate yourself about Sativex and join LEAP. We all know this is BS and only about money and making third class citizens. Please think about someone in your family with a real chronic alignment if this could have saved them. Would you have used it? If you could have done it for yourself with out thousand and thousands of dollars of expense and no side affects. Would you have done it?
8. I have been in two car accidents which has aggravated previous injuries so when I screw up typing and spLEling this is a forum; I am illiterate and a stoner.
9. Let the games begin positive input is welcome flaming will be rewarded with flaming followed by psychological castration!!!! I am no expert I do this for the challenge, the science of it, and my patients. This is part of my therapy!!
10. To the rest that are just as curious as me let us see what comes of it and what can be learned from my attempt that can benifit your grow.

My dirt on the first rotation is https://www.rollitup.org/organics/503027-can-you-dig.html#post6934612 I did later add more trace minerals which are now only starting to release and a little extra rabbit poo.


This is also the recycled dirt on top of my second rotation of a bastardized Sub soil mix for the current clones with lot of coco. The second rotation will experience hot soil it has been cooking for only two weeks.

I find it sad that the haters pick on sub because he calls it his mix. I think those need to regroup and try to understand what he is trying to come up with which is a mix everyone can easily mix. I have analyzed his current mix and his previous mixes. I think I understand what he is trying to achieve and why.

Here is my soil mix which is cooking and should be ready for the third rotation. Normal amounts per gallon. In addition I intend re-use soil and top dress similar to zero till gardening, three little birds, and use the jungle of green method as well.

I am using recycled soil which should include lots of microbial life from previous roots to easily establish a good microbial system. It is also very compactable and which should support the plant until the roots establish. Which is also the reaon for thining it the loam and wc make it diificult for the plant due to compaction.

The Soil is FF and Light Warrior with light warrior being the dominate vs FF in Subs mix.

Third rotation will include hydroton for root support and to compare to previous two rotations.

I then have added the following for a cubic yard of soil:

1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano) 2 cups
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano) 8 cups
Worm Castings - NPK and quick release trace minerals 45lbs
Dolomite Lime – long term trace minerals .75 cups
Rabbit poo for alfalfa and oatmeal – NPK, trace minerals, microbial life 1 lb
Diatomaceous Earth – trace minerals and bug prevention 2 cups
Magnesium – Trace minerals 1 cups
Blood Meal – N and iron – 6 cups
Bone Meal – P – 9 cups
Green Sand – Trace minerals 9 cups
Rock Phospate – Trace minerals 9 cups

All water will be RO and containers are about 20 gallons full.
Strains shall be GDP, WW, Sour D, OG 18
Lighting will be a combination of PPF-800 LEDs, CFL, and HPS MH mixed adjustable digital ballast lights.

See attached pics and let me know if I have forgotten anything.


In the begging I will be experiencing evironmental problems which winter and an eventual new ac unit will resolve. I hope that will happens soon but first I have to change all of my ducting to make it work correctly which I am in the mist of getting bids for.

I will allow one week to adjust to the new soil and then flower for the new clones.

I will be purchasing clones so there will only be 4 rotations instead of 5 with the 5th rotation being added into the 4.

personified said:

My dirt on the first rotation is https://www.rollitup.org/organics/503027-can-you-dig.html#post6934612 with some more trace minerals added and some extra rabbit poo. I did add more trace minerals that are now only starting to release.
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This is also the recycled dirt on top of my second rotation of bastardized Sub soil mix for the current clones with lot of coco. The second rotation will experience host soil it has been cooking for only two weeks.

I find it sad that the haters pick on sub because he calls it his mix. I think those need to regroup and try to understand that he is trying to come up with a simple mix everyone can easily mix and some times that means change.

I have analyzed his current mix and his previous mixes. I think I understand what he is trying to achieve and why.

Here is my soil mix which is cooking and should be ready for the third rotation. Normal amounts per gallon. In addition I intend re-use soil and top dress similar to zero till gardening.

Recycled soil will include lots of microbial life and roots to easily establish a good micro system. It is also very compactable and which should support the plant until the roots establish.

The Soil is FF and Light Warrior with light warrior being the dominate vs FF in Subs mix.
View attachment 2365227
Third rotation will include hydroton for root support and to compare to previous two rotations.

I then have added the following:

1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano) 2 cupa
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano) 8 cups
Worm Castings - NPK and quick release trace minerals 45lbs
Dolomite Lime – long term trace minerals .75 cups
Rabbit poo for alfalfa and oatmeal – NPK, trace minerals, microbial life 1 lb
Diatomaceous Earth – trace minerals and bug prevention 2 cups
Magnesium – Trace minerals 1 cups
Blood Meal – N and iron – 6 cups
Bone Meal – P – 9 cups
Green Sand – Trace minerals 9 cups
Rock Phospate – Trace minerals 9 cups

All water will be RO and containers are about 20 gallons full.
Strains shall be GDP, WW, Sour D, OG 18
Lighting will be a combination of PPF-800 LEDs, CFL, and HPS MH mixed adjustable digital ballast lights.

See attached pics and let me know if I have forgotten anything.

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In the begging I will be experiencing evironmental problems which winter and an eventual new ac unit will resolve. I hope that will happen son but first I have to change all of my ducting to make it work correctly which I am in the mist of getting bids for.

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good luck bro.

Room is now light tight and fans in place with (2) 170 cfm 4 inch fans for intake and a squirl cage 410 cfm exahuast with the difference drawn from vents and exhausted into the house.

17 clones in first week of SOG are in flower. In addition a previous 8 larger plants that we will call a Jungle of Green. Some have been fimmed some topped some both.

Clones are under a 8 bulb t5 with (2) PPF-800 with 300 watts each after SOG grow advances I will add a second 600 watt mixed bulb until then only one is running above older plants with a 8 Bulb t5.

I have added an additional 16 clones and a total of 41 plants. The soil is two layered first layer being my hot mix and the second FF light warrior while the clones establish a good root system.

In the grow room....
Temps are holding about 88 deg with spikes at 92 so I purchased a CO2 bag Humidity in 1 room holding steady 20% and big room at 16% gonna add some water for evaporation. I do not want to use anything that will add heat.

Used my first tea of this grow which was made from (P) bat guano, psg, rabbit poo (feed alfalfa and oatmeal), ewc, and unsulphered mollases. A large air pump and 6 huge stones for air.

First rotation of clones have established themselves and should start growing like mad next week.

And we have a winner Oct 15 was first day of flower today is oct 25 and Sour D is showing the first bud formation.

Another tea added with rabbit poo, (p) guano, psg, seeweed, green sand, molasses

I am letting the plants veg two weeks instead of rooted clone to flower. It has made a world of diffeernce they grow like mad.
I may actually start to veg a full month.


For the numeber gowing I had to add another light and was using a digital timer. I must have accidentally clicked to to ON insted of auto. I had three days for plants 2 weeks and 4 weeks in flower with lights on 24hrs. DRAT!!! No longer do I use digital timers I switched to to the push button type that way I always know what the programming is. I saw an article from berkly about plants and they discussed hormions in particular auxin can prevent/reveerse hermie. It is a fine line however it can also cause hermie if you give the plant to much. If your interested here is a synopsis of the video. https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/577544-flowering-info-hypothisis-based-uc.html

I was sure I ruined the first two crops it must have worked I have no nanners!! Either that or the strains were just stable in the first place.


Here is one of the smaller clones. My temps for the first 6 weeks were in the high 90's my growth is stunted but look at how dense that little bud is. I will not be able to get a/c until spring unfortunatley. I will have to tear up a good portion of roof which could really screw up a light cycle. Temps are now hoolding at 80 in the big room with (3) 600 watt HPS and (2) 8 bulb cfl at 452 watts each and temps are mid 70's with the 1 cfl and 2 LEDs in the other.







These were veg the for two weeks and allready doing much better.

As I mentioned I would be doing top dressing. I had 4 of my bins with dirt that has been running over a year. While it helped I am going to go ahead and pull the dirt then recycle it these plants just need too much. Of the bins I topped 1 or 2 plants responded slightly and the others thrived. I am now sold on FF with its nuetral ph it makes my teas super strong!!

First set of plants will be marginal at best the second set should do beter with the temps falling.

What sucks is by the time it gets full on rocking my year will be up and I am going to have to find some patients outside the 25 mile range. After looking at the CHAA I realize that they placed 25 mile radius on 25 mile radius and the reason the map looks so cut up. That is fine I still know of where to get patients they did not cover all of their angles. I promise I will continue to grow long after the dispesaries have opened and do it legally. I am hooked now!! Screw em'!!

Now that winter is here you should be able to squeak buy with no ac =D Looking good brother.

OMG I AM HIGH!! I pulled two little plants with only the occasional clear, no amber, and mostly cloudy trichs then let it cure for only two days. Yes it is still damp and mostly thcv but I am STONED!!! Not to smooth right now but I can't wait till it cures properly with all the potency. WOOOF!!! BOW WOW WOW YEPPIE YO YEPPIE YEAH!!!!!

I will haverst the dominate sativas at cloudy and some of the hybrids as well for me. The idicas I am going to harvest some that way the rest will be amber for my patients meds. I need the degredation of thc for good medicine.

I am not going to see what my avg weight is until the temps are were they are suppose to be for an accurate count of the watt per gram ratio. It is not a good indicator of what is actually possible in my mind.

Digging the grow...

Rep +

Sub'd

My first real pull off the plants. I know I am not as good as the superstars but with no experience I think this 2 oz wet is pretty good. Should have at least an oz and if I can average an oz a plant I am a happy camper.

No hermies so I am just as happy as a pig in a holy sheit!!

Here is a bud from one of the little plants I pulled prior.

It is still curing but starting to look real nice IMO

2oz wet will dry to 1/2oz roughly