1970's seeds

themistocles

themistocles

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I stumbled across an old mans brief case the other day and when I opened it, what was inside amazed me. It was full of 1965-1970 primo "stuff". While the smoke was harsh, it also contained many seeds. The case has been preserved as best I could have imagined.
It was buried for 15 years in an airtight case. The case contained quart size mason jars, packed with foil then under the foil were plastic bags and some after that was put into another smaller glass airtight jar.
:mrgreen:I have successfully grown only one of the seeds and the plant was amazing. I could never get a clone to take so that plant is long gone.:cuss:
But on the other hand I do have all these old seeds but not a single one in the last three months has germinated.
I have tried pure water in a bottle, paper towel and two plates, direct to soil, direct to rockwool, and other methods too outrageous to mention.
Does anyone have any idea what I could try next to get these little suckers to crack open?
 
themistocles

themistocles

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For the people who doubt it, I understand I did not think the first seed would take either. I was apprehensive to smoke what was in the containers, as you could imagine it looked horrible, but I thought might as well try it. As for the seeds when I planted the first one it was just a shot in the dark hoping it grow and amazingly it did. Since one seed grew I thought at least some of the others would but not a single one has worked since. As for the case I did not dig it up out of the ground, I found it in the bottom of an old box I was storing for the guy at my house, when I returned the case to its original owner he told me how he had buried it long ago, then when he moved he dug it up, put it in the box and forgotten all about until I brought it back to him.
 
Ichi

Ichi

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How did you know who the original owner was? Let me guess, The guy left his name in the case of weed in case he forgot it some lying asshole could return it to him 15 years later? Oh wait better yet, you just called the owner or whomever and you where like, "Hey Dude, Just found a giant case of weed in my back yard. Is it yours? Ya? Do you want it back?" REALLY?

And what the heck is up with your math. Buried for 15 years puts us at 1994 which sure the fuck is not "1965 - 1970" So this weed would have been just chilling around for 24 years before some dude buried it? There is no logic in that. NONE.

And to answer the question in the first post, NO. There is no way that those seeds are going to germinate. You would be really lucky to get seeds that are older than 2 years to germ.
 
greenboiii420

greenboiii420

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it must have been a seed preservation briefcase from the 70's. i heard they were real popular. lemme guess the briefcase had bunch of multicolored flowers on it and on the handle it said groovy baby?
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Ichi said:
How did you know who the original owner was? Let me guess, The guy left his name in the case of weed in case he forgot it some lying asshole could return it to him 15 years later? Oh wait better yet, you just called the owner or whomever and you where like, "Hey Dude, Just found a giant case of weed in my back yard. Is it yours? Ya? Do you want it back?" REALLY?

And what the heck is up with your math. Buried for 15 years puts us at 1994 which sure the fuck is not "1965 - 1970" So this weed would have been just chilling around for 24 years before some dude buried it? There is no logic in that. NONE.

And to answer the question in the first post, NO. There is no way that those seeds are going to germinate. You would be really lucky to get seeds that are older than 2 years to germ.
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I agree with most of what you said but not with the lucky to get seeds of 2 years old or older to germinate part. I have popped beans that were 5 years old or older and still had a respectable germ rate.

The main problem with beans like were allegedly found, which I highly doubt happened, is that they would predate almost all professional breeders and would most likely be bagseed and seeded pot is grow to be smoked and not to create viable seeds so seeds were not always fully mature.

I had some seeds in the 70’s that you had to try to germ very many of them to get a small number to pop and I had some that equaled the best seeds of today when it came to percentages that popped. It was totally the luck of the draw back then.

Some believe that what causes seeds to lose their viability is the amount of moisture in the seeds evaporates through the hull so some believe that if you soak old seeds they will revitalize by taking in moisture to replenish what was lost.

Some people claim to have popped very old beans that way. Myself I tend to believe they were just lucky and happened onto old beans that had not fully lost their viability.

Some also say that scratching/scuffing the hulls with sandpaper or a nail file will allow moisture to penetrate hulls that have dried and contracted so much that they will not allow water to pass through them and again revitalize the seeds.

I also have my doubts about that working but some people claim it does work.

It does work with some beans that are new and have hulls that are thick and hard and in some cases have a waxy coating that keeps them from popping due to them basically being waterproof.

If it will work with old beans I really do not know but as I said I have my doubts.
 
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