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Realbax

Realbax

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Hi Everyone. A close friend of mine approached me last September and asked me to help him setup his own grow. At the time he didn't have the resources to put anything together better than a couple florescent fixtures. So we set up a very bare bones op. Earlier this week he asked me to help him upgrade. So since September he has really come along, he's definitely found the style that works for him and has saved up over the last 8 months. Anyway the reason I'm posting today is to ask for some thoughts on the best way to go about this. As I've stated he's really come along and takes the hobby very seriously. He's managed to save up 8000 to out fit 3 5x5x8 areas. Now he's determined to invest in LED. With that said were looking into quantum board kits. Trying to determine if we should just get kits and assemble them on our own or contact someone to get custom builds? We were thinking 4 QB boards with a mix of cree cobs around the outer edge and throughout the cross section. Possibly also add in IR and UV cobs. He has suggested picking up additional stripes to add to the perimeter walls to insure as little shaded areas as possible. Any ideas suggestions on whether or not this would be the " ultimate " setup light wise for 3 5x5x8 areas? Any input is valued and appreciated. Cheers
 
verticalgrow

verticalgrow

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Realbax said:
Hi Everyone. A close friend of mine approached me last September and asked me to help him setup his own grow. At the time he didn't have the resources to put anything together better than a couple florescent fixtures. So we set up a very bare bones op. Earlier this week he asked me to help him upgrade. So since September he has really come along, he's definitely found the style that works for him and has saved up over the last 8 months. Anyway the reason I'm posting today is to ask for some thoughts on the best way to go about this. As I've stated he's really come along and takes the hobby very seriously. He's managed to save up 8000 to out fit 3 5x5x8 areas. Now he's determined to invest in LED. With that said were looking into quantum board kits. Trying to determine if we should just get kits and assemble them on our own or contact someone to get custom builds? We were thinking 4 QB boards with a mix of cree cobs around the outer edge and throughout the cross section. Possibly also add in IR and UV cobs. He has suggested picking up additional stripes to add to the perimeter walls to insure as little shaded areas as possible. Any ideas suggestions on whether or not this would be the " ultimate " setup light wise for 3 5x5x8 areas? Any input is valued and appreciated. Cheers
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Life Changing >>> 1.4gpw HLG550 Led 7600W = 22 pounds:o

 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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As far as QBs go the kits are best value for money. I wouldn't be getting stuff custom built, far to easy to do it yourself.
I heard a guy say the 600w kits although have the output don't have the footprint to fully cover a 5x5. It was @Ryante55 so perhaps he can chime in on that.
Myself I only have the smaller kits.
 
ANC

ANC

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Realbax said:
Hi Everyone. A close friend of mine approached me last September and asked me to help him setup his own grow. At the time he didn't have the resources to put anything together better than a couple florescent fixtures. So we set up a very bare bones op. Earlier this week he asked me to help him upgrade. So since September he has really come along, he's definitely found the style that works for him and has saved up over the last 8 months. Anyway the reason I'm posting today is to ask for some thoughts on the best way to go about this. As I've stated he's really come along and takes the hobby very seriously. He's managed to save up 8000 to out fit 3 5x5x8 areas. Now he's determined to invest in LED. With that said were looking into quantum board kits. Trying to determine if we should just get kits and assemble them on our own or contact someone to get custom builds? We were thinking 4 QB boards with a mix of cree cobs around the outer edge and throughout the cross section. Possibly also add in IR and UV cobs. He has suggested picking up additional stripes to add to the perimeter walls to insure as little shaded areas as possible. Any ideas suggestions on whether or not this would be the " ultimate " setup light wise for 3 5x5x8 areas? Any input is valued and appreciated. Cheers
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You get a bit more bang for your buck with the Kits.
 
ANC

ANC

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coreywebster said:
As far as QBs go the kits are best value for money. I wouldn't be getting stuff custom built, far to easy to do it yourself.
I heard a guy say the 600w kits although have the output don't have the footprint to fully cover a 5x5. It was @Ryante55 so perhaps he can chime in on that.
Myself I only have the smaller kits.
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I'm sure the gaps can be easily covered by a few strips, Heck, mount them lower and get some side lights.
 
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Ryante55

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coreywebster said:
As far as QBs go the kits are best value for money. I wouldn't be getting stuff custom built, far to easy to do it yourself.
I heard a guy say the 600w kits although have the output don't have the footprint to fully cover a 5x5. It was @Ryante55 so perhaps he can chime in on that.
Myself I only have the smaller kits.
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Yeah I would recommend 2 320 kits for that space the 600h lights a 4x4 pretty well but the ppfd is a little low at the edges. it's awesome if you run at least 2 of them you get the overlap and really good penetration.
 
Realbax

Realbax

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Hi guys thanks for the replies. Si if I'm correct the consensus is that for each 5x5x8 area the best ROI would be 2 320 kits? And for the edges just use the Samsung stripes I've read about? Or if I order a kit a assemble it on my own should I pick up some cree cobs for the edges? Or add cobs to the perimeter and cross beams of the frame in standard and IR or UV?
 
Realbax

Realbax

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Sorry. Also the price point for two flowering setups and one veg would be the same for each area? Any idea of total cost ? Anything left in the budget would be best invested where in the setup? Working on the lights (obviously) and have all the ventilation equipment so what would be the next upgrade to make life easier and help ensure quality and quantity
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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IR isn't much use, just produces heat, and there are more efficient ways to do that, if you need heat. UV is well worth it in my opinion. it will definitely increase trichome production.
 
Realbax

Realbax

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Sorry I should have stated the grow he is going with: soil based grow in 5 gallon viviosun pot. They'll be topped and lst'd. He uses the same nutrients that I do which is essentially the whole botanicare pro soil line, he has a cycle worth of mega crop that he's going to try so that may change I suppose. He's considering adding co2 to his setup in the next grow or two but he says he wants to get some type of humidifier system but as he has a pretty stable 40% in his basement I'm not sure its worth it as I doubt think he would get the use out of it for the majority of his spaces as I believe this 40% allows the flowering to happen without the chance of mold so it would really be used just for the veg cycle so perhaps I'll recommend a small self contained unit if I can find an affordable solution. Currently he is venting straight outside but will be sealing that and just have it vent into the drop ceiling space through a carbon filter. He'll connect the three areas through ducting. He was talking about adding the co2 to the flowering area and having those vent into the vegetation section bringing leftover co2 and heat into that area. As it's in a basement the heat and co2 he reckons will be a benefit. He has a couple of drip systems he'll be using one for flowering areas and another for the veg section. I'll be providing his first round of clones then he will choose a few or all from that and go from there. If there's anything else that I should have mentioned let me know.
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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Email northerngrowlights with requirements and see what they say, if you ain't happy doing the diy get the built panels, that way if there is any problems everything is under warranty. Only reason I mentioned QB kits is the simplicity and quick assembly time. If your fine with electrics then blast on with the f-strips as ANC says.
 
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Ryante55

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Realbax said:
Hi guys thanks for the replies. Si if I'm correct the consensus is that for each 5x5x8 area the best ROI would be 2 320 kits? And for the edges just use the Samsung stripes I've read about? Or if I order a kit a assemble it on my own should I pick up some cree cobs for the edges? Or add cobs to the perimeter and cross beams of the frame in standard and IR or UV?
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2 320 kits would do fine no need for strips
 
Realbax

Realbax

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
IR isn't much use, just produces heat, and there are more efficient ways to do that, if you need heat. UV is well worth it in my opinion. it will definitely increase trichome production.
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In this case what would be the best way to implement UV into this system?
 
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