1 year in prison for 97 grams...in Canada...ooops, sorry made a mistake

leaffan

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http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/dana-larsen/canada-cannabis-laws_b_6598392.html

Two weeks ago, a student in Sarnia was sentenced to a full year in prison after a police raid on his home last year netted 97 grams of cannabis, scales and $280 cash.

The student, James Munroe, had been convicted of selling small amounts of pot a few months previously. At trial, Munroe pled guilty, and the judge gave him the mandatory minimum sentence: a year in prison.

The judge, Justice Mark Hornblower, acknowledged that a full year behind bars without parole for only 97 grams was an "extremely harsh" sentence, but that he had no choice, because it was a "mandatory minimum" sentence.

But the judge was completely wrong. The mandatory minimums for selling cannabis only apply in cases with 3 kilos or more. What's worse, neither of the lawyers working the case were aware of the law either.

It was only due to an article in the local paper being reposted on Facebook by a local lawyer, and then other lawyers noticing the error that this sentence got overturned!

Let's be clear. If this case had not been covered in the local paper then James Munroe would have served a full year in prison for an offence which normally warrants around 30 days. (Even 30 days in prison is a ridiculously stiff sentence for selling small amounts of cannabis, but we'll save that debate for another day.)

Regardless of how you feel about cannabis, every Canadian should be shocked by the incompetence of Justice Mark Hornblower, federal prosecutor Michael Robb and defence attorney David Stoesser. Not one of them bothered to read the law for which Munroe was being charged! How the hell does that happen?

What kind of justice system do we have when the judge and both lawyers are ignorant of the law? How pathetic and terrifying is it for citizens to know they too could be given a sentence by a judge who doesn't know what the sentence is supposed to be?

Instead of being laughed off as a silly mistake, this deserves serious scrutiny. Where there is one mistake caught only by a fluke, there are probably many more that didn't get noticed.

Harper's cannabis crackdown means that our courts are steadily processing more and more small-time cannabis cases. As these cases clog the system, judges will find themselves even more pressed to deal with them quickly, and be paying even less attention to the specific details in each case. These kinds of sentencing mistakes will only happen more often.

I wonder especially about Canada's northern territories, where charges for possession and especially trafficking in cannabis are far, far above the national average. In these remote areas, pot laws are more strictly enforced, lawyers are in short supply, cases don't get into the paper, and mistakes are unlikely to be caught by a Facebook post.

How often is this happening? How many other Canadians are being given the wrong sentences by incompetent judges and inattentive lawyers?

Sadly, we may never know the answer.
 

nsbudca

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That's scary. This mandatory minimum is causing all the problems that I thought it would right from the get go. Same as the MMPR. Officials don't know what the new laws entitle. The written laws haven't seemed to apply to cannabis in Canada for as long as I've been using it. Two guys get caught with an ounce and their punishments are completely different. It honestly all depends on what cop and judge you get. And if they got laid the night before.

This is the trend I have noticed around these parts anyways.
 

gb123

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Ya I read it...

truth is.. no one gives a rats ass about the ones that got stuck in it....

ooops Sorry. Made a few mistakes. We're human after all eh ;)
 

cannadan

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Un freakin believe able....
In the late 70's I was railroaded by two police officers for an empty fiver vial...
and a piece of stalk...
they showed up at my house...with a warrant ...just wasn't for my address...didn't mater
pushed me out of the way and proceeded to search my bedroom in my parents house...(parents not home at time)
found the empty 5'er and the stalk...so they asked me if I knew what it was and I said yes....
they proceeded to cuff me at arrest me..based on me saying yes.
In court the first time the judge dropped the charges due to lack of evidence.
Plus the cops said I invited them in to search my room...LIE
the cops came back and re-charged me based on me saying I knew what the two items were...
and I found my self in court a second time...being told by duty counsel to plead guilty...
since they would be using my testimony that I knew what it was and that it was mine....against me
I ended up with a conditional discharge...of keeping the peace for 6 months...
 

bigmanc

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Pure bullshit. I wonder how Anthony is doing from the canadas wonder land arrest although he had mmpr paperwork. Nobody knows shit.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Wouldn't you, as a defendant, get to know the law yourself? I have never been charged with anything,ever, but I know I wouldn't rely on a lawyers word when I could quite easily research it myself. They are all idiots.
 

oldtimer54

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Does Canada have an appeals process and can Canadian lawyers have their licence to practice law revoked.......if this story is true there's a problem in our neighbors to the north Court system !
 

torontoke

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I would find a big time fancy lawyer to sue everyone involved.
These types of mistakes can destroy lives over a fucking plant. Pedophiles are released early because the gov says they dont have room but a kid dealin a couple ozs should do a year?
Sometimes its easy to feel embarassed to be canadian
 

OGEvilgenius

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I would find a big time fancy lawyer to sue everyone involved.
These types of mistakes can destroy lives over a fucking plant. Pedophiles are released early because the gov says they dont have room but a kid dealin a couple ozs should do a year?
Sometimes its easy to feel embarassed to be canadian
I tend to agree. That said it might be hard to get much out of the lawyer. He should at least file a complaint to the bar/lawyers association. He didn't actually end up doing the time so damages will be tough to prove beyond some emotional stress which would probably be argued away anyway as going to jail is generally stressful in all situations.

Just thinking outloud here.

One thing I will add - if you get busted for Cannabis I would be calling Kirk Tousaw before anyone else. That guy is on point. And if he can't take your case I'd trust any recommendations he'd give as alternate lawyers (not blindly, but I'm sure he'd give good recommendations).
 

CalyxCrusher

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That's scary. This mandatory minimum is causing all the problems that I thought it would right from the get go. Same as the MMPR. Officials don't know what the new laws entitle. The written laws haven't seemed to apply to cannabis in Canada for as long as I've been using it. Two guys get caught with an ounce and their punishments are completely different. It honestly all depends on what cop and judge you get. And if they got laid the night before.

This is the trend I have noticed around these parts anyways.
They have to have a way to fill all those for profit prisons Harptler brought to this nation a few years back. Gotta keep the people who run modern day for profit prisons happy about their investments. The second they announced private prisons in Canada I could see the mandatory minimums coming from a mile away. After all, it's worked so well for the US.........................
 
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