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I have 3 meters / 9ft ceiling so its nice :) , you mean a whole Gavita package with a dimm and reflector? I watched video and it seems nice I just dont like an idea about ordering new reflector every year, they say that reflector must be replaced. I thought about 600w with Adjust a wing medium...

Nice :D , and also, I will buy Nanolux dimm. Is it true that with it you save 30%of energy and get 15% more lumens? Thats what it says... And the same is said for other brands, so Im curious is it better to buy such expensive dimm? Also, do you see any other better option with HID on the 4x4...

Thx. So medium one with 600w lamp will give great coverage, no need for 1000w lamp? I ask because many people are not sure what to use in 4x4 place. I guess 600 with a great reflector is just perfect for a 4x4

Anyone? This is what I asked myself recently.

Il grow Indicas mostly, so up to 150 cm I guess. I think Il go with HID.

Nope :) Give me some link to see what its all about.

Ok :) Thx. Im here to learn. So , what do you suggest, best thing for a 4x4 in HID? I cant afford to spend around 1200 dollars on hi end LED at this moment for a 4x4 place and it seems people grow nice stuff with Mars. I believe its junky but now thats my only LED option

As far as I know, 600 is ideal for 3x3 and 1000 w HID for a 4x4. I guess some light like Mars II , 900w is good for a 4x4 as they say, but some use 1200w so... I dont know. I like the idea of covering 4x4 with 450 w, and Mars II 900w covers that. I would like to use HID but I need 1000w then...

"We'll have the new Vero lamps in June." Thats from Area 51.

I have 4x4 place, 3 meters high. I wont buy high end led (I thought for a 2x4 buy something best possible around 800 dollars) but for a year or two prices will drop and I dont wanna regret what I bought... I red a lot about HID and LED + light spectrum, lux, cid... But Im not informed on...

Mars II 900w ? Which one of the cheapest LEDs is lets say "ok"?

400-500 for a light alone + all other things needed.

Just a page before all is said it seems :D , well then, its HID for me now until LED price drops down, or I will buy some Mars II cheaper LED. What do you think on Gavita 600 for a 4x4 place? I need 750 w power for a 4x4 right? So its not that good?

First of all, Im glad that Im here and that I red few posts on LED technology you guys made... I know nothing of LED, nothing in any way, but when I was about to buy some panels (well advertised on some other forum) there was little logic and a lot of nonsense that triggered my "inner" instinct...