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well,, im using the sun.i got a clone the first of week of april.. i live in mid cali in the vally. by the end of may the pistol were coming out. now they got little buds all over it . 2 of 7 now have got the pistols. it light by 5:30 dark by 9 :30.. so whats up with the 12/12????

vaporizers are great! I broke up with my bong,and quit smoking! The taste is so much better, plus no carcinogens! Yea. But beware when your done you have to throw away what you vaped. It looks good still,,but, NO. You extract the good stuff.All thats left is crap ! GET ONE

use ties to hold down the top so the sides grow up then it doesnt really look like the norm. but the smell...good luck

i got some clones in mid april. got them potted,and used to sun light. now 1 is budding 2 got the white stigmas coming out,and there still outside.theres only about 8hrs of dark.so im just going with it. i did read once in a mag. about 24/12 for veg. 18/18flower!