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My apologies Al I've just finished reading this thread in full as i only just realised there were multiple pages (wot a dumbass, but i am learning) and this typing buisiness is quite time consuming. Thanks for the info, its more than i thought to ask so here's another thanks. I would like to...

Al, I've never used this forum or any other except for browsing untill now and I think you sound like a pretty experienced grower, so I would like to know is your clone tray fed manually or on a timer and roughly how much how often, also how tall do your mothers get (from the bottom of the stem)...