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Iv been to a few meetings with the phx norml and honestly I don't really like the people who run it. Nice people but rain and kathy kinda suck in the sense that they are very "clicky" seeming. Hate to say it like this but I really hate when women are in charge of stuff like this cause I think...

How does that even work for them? To be a garegiver someone has to request you as their caregiver to the state then you are allowed to apply as their caregiver.. I think they think they got this under control but pushing paperwork to initial here and here isn't going to give you any rights...